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[Benny The Noon]

No it's a vid of Rafa telling some truths - there is no hysterics or tantrums and it was said in a calm and factual manner. Also he didn't issue any come and get me plea - that was just the headline created which obviously you swallowed up which once again is no surprise.

You want Kenny out and replaced by a manager to get us into the top 4 - we there is someone who has proven to do that on a regular basis but I forgot you have in the past demanded he was also sacked.

[metalhead]

Well good news is that Kenny Dalglish stays!

[Benny The Noon]

Well good news is that Kenny Dalglish stays!

Confirmed ?

Fantastic news if true

Time for people to get behind him now

[Judge]

this was the original question by lakes - should he go or not...............i dont see any other comments ????

[Judge]

kenny should stay imo

[metalhead]

Well good news is that Kenny Dalglish stays!

Confirmed ?

Fantastic news if true

Time for people to get behind him now

not confirmed, but ballague on twitter confirmed it, and looks like FSG might give him one last chance

[red till i die!!]

[quote="7_Kewell » Sat May 12, 2012 8:50 pm


Yes why would the club want one of our best managers in recent times back at the club.

this is why

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=fOaZYhTd2BU

A press conference where he told the truth ? What a bag of Sh*t

You ignore all the top 4 finishes he got ( the top 4 finish you constantly crave )

Ignore our best prem season in 20 odd years

Ignore the CL win and FA Cup win and concentrate on a press conference - I wouldnt expect anything less from you .

Nothing like getting your priorities in order[/quote]
that's a video of a man cracking up under pressure of top flight football. Rafa had his chance, he spent something like 200+ million on players and it was time to move him on.  Besides, after his COME AND GET ME CHELSEA plea on telly a few months back, i think a fresh approach with a new manager would be the only way forward if Kenny leaves at somepoint.[/quote]

honestly? how long do you think a new manager will get?.
if cl qualification isnt achieved next season? will that be good enough?
what if a new man comes in and decides our team isnt good enough and alienates half of them to the point where they wont play for him,then he sets out recruiting what he believes is and so another rebuild begins.he fails to get back in the cl the following season and we are back in the same situation again where we are going nowhere and looking for a new manager with possibly an inferior team to what we have now.
that situation is a reality and i hope fsg dont rush things and wait to see how we go next season before they act as they might not need to.
kenny has shown faith and loyalty to those players this season and is being destroyed for it but yet he continues to support them and next season its them players who need to repay the faith the man has shown in them.
inexperience has been a key factor to our bad season and because of that the pressure will be even greater next year so its vital that those players get a fookin grip as if they can't do it for kenny what chance has another man got.

[friendlyguy33]

If the decision has been made to retain Kenny for at least the start of next season I wonder if he owners will make a statement to that effect after the Swansea game or in a few days time.

I wonder if they have a backup plan for say late September/October if things start badly next season.

[Benny The Noon]

If the decision has been made to retain Kenny for at least the start of next season I wonder if he owners will make a statement to that effect after the Swansea game or in a few days time.

I wonder if they have a backup plan for say late September/October if things start badly next season.

Bloody hell this season hasn't even finished yet

Shall at least wait until September before talking about manager changes during next season

[Thommo's perm]

I'd like to believe all of that will happen but I'm a bit sceptical to be honest even if Kenny does survive the next few weeks.

I also wonder about FSG in the long term. Their expertise in terms of sport before they bought Liverpool was along the lines of US baseball. It's a completely different kettle of fish in terms of soccer in the english premiership on and off the field. Their grasp of the situation I think may have been wanting the appointment of Comolli at the time seemed to indicate this. Even KK they weren't convinced initially was the man to turn it around. Then they decide to back him while firing Comolli two days before a cup semi-final presumably because they thought Liverpool would triumph in that competition.

I have a feeling that if KK does get another vote of confidence after the end of the season he's not going to have much to play with in terms of cash over the summer. A few are going to have to leave in order for many more to come in. Whoever does come in this summer will have to make a better impact than last summer's signings. I'm hopeful of better things from Carroll, Henderson and Downing but I have to be honest and say that without a dramatic improvement in form at the start of next season I can't see Liverpool in the top four this time next year. Fifth or sixth is a possibility.

I understand peoples negativity and caution. This season has left a bad tatse in al our mouths.
BUT. Football is all about confidence and belief and LFC is nothing if not a beacon for all other clubs to look up to and follow. We havent got the money of City, we dont cheat like united, we have more soul and trophies than arsenal and we have more class, history and heritage than spurs and chelsea put together.
We have been damaged this season by our enemies, but we will come back stronger because we have what no-one else has - we have US: the fans, the players, the manager, the owners, the club. We are made up of the past, the present and the future. All the things that make us what we are. Liverpool Football Club, the best in the world!

Sorry but can you list any clubs that see us as some kind of beacon of hope, it's this kind of sentimental drivel which drives me mad. It has no basis in fact whatsoever, also everyone saying next season will be better, that is also blind faith with no facts attached to it.
The reality is that next season HAS to be better otherwise we'll become another has-been club, this is why it's so imperative that we replace Kenny with a competent manager.

Any club that has aspirations of being successful at any level, especially if they want to do it on merit and with class and dignity looks to LFC for inspiration and as an example of how its done. If you dont understand this concept then theres not much I can do for you and maybe youd best fu'ck off and support the other cheating tw@ts from down the lancs?
FACT? What the fu'ck are you on about? You have no "facts" to prove that anything will be better without KK managing us. It is opinion, except mine is based on faith, belief and knowledge. To call it sentimental drivel shows that you dont have passion or understanding of what it means to be a football fan. Most of those who are obsessed with LFC are driven by emotions and sentiment. Its wrong and irrational I know, but thats the way it is and those who know, understand.
We all know next season HAS to be better. I have already stated that so you are merely repeating what I have said, but how about you give me some evidence that replacing KK will make us better. Show us your FACTS!

[7_Kewell]

No it's a vid of Rafa telling some truths - there is no hysterics or tantrums and it was said in a calm and factual manner. Also he didn't issue any come and get me plea - that was just the headline created which obviously you swallowed up which once again is no surprise.

You want Kenny out and replaced by a manager to get us into the top 4 - we there is someone who has proven to do that on a regular basis but I forgot you have in the past demanded he was also sacked.

righto Benny, the fact we didn't win a game for 6 weeks after that had no connection with Rafa ranting, eh? 

I can only assume your paranoia over the media means you don't watch television, otherwise you'd have seen Rafa on the BBC touting himself for the Chelsea job. It was blatant, it was obvious, it was cringeworthy watching Rafa outline why he'd be a great Chelsea manager. IT also had the Chelsea fans going into meltdown, because they didn't want him.

[Benny The Noon]

No it's a vid of Rafa telling some truths - there is no hysterics or tantrums and it was said in a calm and factual manner. Also he didn't issue any come and get me plea - that was just the headline created which obviously you swallowed up which once again is no surprise.

You want Kenny out and replaced by a manager to get us into the top 4 - we there is someone who has proven to do that on a regular basis but I forgot you have in the past demanded he was also sacked.

righto Benny, the fact we didn't win a game for 6 weeks after that had no connection with Rafa ranting, eh? 

I can only assume your paranoia over the media means you don't watch television, otherwise you'd have seen Rafa on the BBC touting himself for the Chelsea job. It was blatant, it was obvious, it was cringeworthy watching Rafa outline why he'd be a great Chelsea manager. IT also had the Chelsea fans going into meltdown, because they didn't want him.

Didn't win a game for 6 weeks ? Are you sure ?

Rant was on 9th Jan

We then drew three league games and an FA Cup game then beat Chelsea on the 1st Feb ( that's 3 weeks later ) then lost to BS in cup but then won away at Pompey then beat Real etc and then kept on winning bar a defeat at Boro. We never once went 6 weeks without winning during that season - that is what's called a correct "fact" unlike yours.

[7_Kewell]

No it's a vid of Rafa telling some truths - there is no hysterics or tantrums and it was said in a calm and factual manner. Also he didn't issue any come and get me plea - that was just the headline created which obviously you swallowed up which once again is no surprise.

You want Kenny out and replaced by a manager to get us into the top 4 - we there is someone who has proven to do that on a regular basis but I forgot you have in the past demanded he was also sacked.

righto Benny, the fact we didn't win a game for 6 weeks after that had no connection with Rafa ranting, eh? 

I can only assume your paranoia over the media means you don't watch television, otherwise you'd have seen Rafa on the BBC touting himself for the Chelsea job. It was blatant, it was obvious, it was cringeworthy watching Rafa outline why he'd be a great Chelsea manager. IT also had the Chelsea fans going into meltdown, because they didn't want him.

Didn't win a game for 6 weeks ? Are you sure ?

Rant was on 9th Jan

We then drew three league games and an FA Cup game then beat Chelsea on the 1st Feb ( that's 3 weeks later ) then lost to BS in cup but then won away at Pompey then beat Real etc and then kept on winning bar a defeat at Boro. We never once went 6 weeks without winning during that season - that is what's called a correct "fact" unlike yours.

ok, maybe it wasn't 6 weeks, but we were top of the league and Rafa didn't need to lower himself to reply to purple noses games. He did, we lost and the rest is history. 

Bringin Rafa back wouldn't work. FACT

[Benny The Noon]

righto Benny, the fact we didn't win a game for 6 weeks after that had no connection with Rafa ranting, eh? 

I can only assume your paranoia over the media means you don't watch television, otherwise you'd have seen Rafa on the BBC touting himself for the Chelsea job. It was blatant, it was obvious, it was cringeworthy watching Rafa outline why he'd be a great Chelsea manager. IT also had the Chelsea fans going into meltdown, because they didn't want him.

Didn't win a game for 6 weeks ? Are you sure ?

Rant was on 9th Jan

We then drew three league games and an FA Cup game then beat Chelsea on the 1st Feb ( that's 3 weeks later ) then lost to BS in cup but then won away at Pompey then beat Real etc and then kept on winning bar a defeat at Boro. We never once went 6 weeks without winning during that season - that is what's called a correct "fact" unlike yours.

ok, maybe it wasn't 6 weeks, but we were top of the league and Rafa didn't need to lower himself to reply to purple noses games. He did, we lost and the rest is history. 

Bringin Rafa back wouldn't work. FACT

Us losing has f*ck all to do with what Rafa said

Our players didn't have the expirence to get over the line

We just fell short because of a defeat to Boro and a draw to Arsenal months after what Rafa said. We dropped more points in the league before Rafa's press conference.

Rafa said what every single fan and manager thought and his own fans who agreed with him 3 months later threw it back in his face and tried to use it to blame him for us losing the league just like you are doing with your made up incorrect facts.  The players did that with those two performances which defensively were shocking and Torres and Gerrard missing sitters against Boro.

[7_Kewell]

It's the team's fault

Rafa forced pressure onto our team and public ridicule by making a fool of himself on national television. The fact we didn’t win our next league game after his cringworthy FACT press conference put more pressure onto our players, and that continued for a month. Purple nose must have laughed his t!ts off as we squandered our poistion in the league.

But hey, lets bring Rafa back. He only spent £227 million last time, maybe he could break the £500 million mark and bring in Gareth Barry like he always wanted. After all, he’s better than Alonso, right?