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by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:11 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:Benayoun and Kuyt I would agree with.

Not convinced about Pennant though. I think Barry may be better than him.

For £15million+ Barry had better be better than Pennant

But I think Barry would be compared to Alonso - not Pennant

by **Number 9** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:30 pm

I really dont blame Martin O'Neill for being awkward.
Hes spent time trying to make Villa into something.I can understand his frustrations when his best player and captain is being poached.
I would expect the very same off any passionate manager in football.
If Real Madrid came for Gerrard and he wanted to go we would be fu'cked off bigtime as would Rafa.
When a player you value as the most important at the club says he wants to go,its common sense to try and get the maximum for him.

Also if O'Neill just quickly relented and let his man go cheap it would make him look a soft touch.the next time they bring quality to Villa all the big clubs would be rubbing their hands and circling like vultures.
No manager wants his team to be labelled a feeder club or to appear soft!

by **grayghost** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:47 pm

Is Barry better than Alonso if he is then not by much why spend 15 mil on some one who is not going to inprove the team that much. Why not go for that guy who plays for Roma in midfeild Di Viao i think his name is

by **kazza** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:06 pm

Number 9 wrote:I really dont blame Martin O'Neill for being awkward.
Hes spent time trying to make Villa into something.I can understand his frustrations when his best player and captain is being poached.
I would expect the very same off any passionate manager in football.
If Real Madrid came for Gerrard and he wanted to go we would be fu'cked off bigtime as would Rafa.
When a player you value as the most important at the club says he wants to go,its common sense to try and get the maximum for him.

Also if O'Neill just quickly relented and let his man go cheap it would make him look a soft touch.the next time they bring quality to Villa all the big clubs would be rubbing their hands and circling like vultures.
No manager wants his team to be labelled a feeder club or to appear soft!

I think at 15 million Barry seems expensive and I do not think that Raffa is selling Xabi because he thinks he is not good enough. I think Xabi wants to leave.

When we sold Baros we could have got more for him than we did had we sold him to another team but the player wanted to go to Villa so we lost out on 1-2 million pounds extra. They then sold him on the next season. Obviously what goes around does not necessarily come around.

by **Number 9** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:30 pm

Gareth Barry is an England international now mate and could very well be keeping Lampard out of the team in the future!
Im NOT saying its right but the fact is,this increases a players value!

by **PabloAimar** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:33 pm

look wat sum1s dun on wikipedia... haha

Gareth Barry
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gareth Barry (born February 23, 1981 in Hastings) is an English football player who currently is a traitor scum. It is reported the extra cash he will get will barely cover the costs of extra burglar alarms /security guards for his new house and the massive house insurance premiums for the inevitable robberies. Also there will be a major layout for tacky shellsuits, bricks to put under his car when the tyres get nicked, and a patio heater to keep him warm as he spends the rest of his career on the bench due to Rafa's rotation system.

In 1997 Rafa and Garry dated for a short time before they broke up for controversial reasons.

He stated his reason for wanting to leave as being fed up playing for a small club and how he needs to win something in his career.

Fabio Capello, England manager, has stated that Barry is now firmly off his list as he will probably only play 1 game in the whole of the next season.

Along with former team-mate Gareth Southgate, the pair were the only players to play in both the final club match (excepting 2000 Charity Shield match) and the final international match at the old Wembley Stadium. Both matches resulted in 1–0 losses: for Aston Villa against Chelsea in the 2000 FA Cup Final and for England against Germany in a 2002 FIFA World Cup qualifier.

link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Barry

by **Number 9** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:36 pm

Fuc'king hilarious!
One very pi'ssed off Villa fan!

by **parchpea** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:37 pm

Looks like Barry will come in if we can get the money from the sale of Alonso but not before.

I reckon Barry has the edge on Xabi so its an improvement but not enough of one to get over excited about and frankly names such as Downing and Milner are a worry. These players will make no difference at all.

The way things are at the moment its not so much about making massive improvements to the team but swapping similair standard players in the hope they exceed expectation where others have failed.

We have had this transfer policy for many years now but perhaps keeping squad numbers down and bringing in on or two of top quality may make a difference but somehow I dont see Rafa taking this route.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:11 pm

I don't think you should compare Barry to anyone at Liverpool at the moment. For me Barry offers something different.

Alonso sits deep and sprays the ball around. He rarely goes forward and doe not score many goals.

I think Barry is part of Rafa's vision of the nect phase for LFC. I don't hink we will see the team set up like it was for the second half of the seson

I think we will see Mascha sitting deep in front of the back 4 with Barry and Gerrard in front and hopefull y 2 wide men who can take players on, 2 full backs overlapping and Torres up on his own. The emphasis will be that both Barry and Gerrard attack (one going forward and one sitting a little further back) and both scoring their fair share of goals.

At the moment we always struggled against the other big 3 teams as they normally played Gerrard out of the game ensuring he had limited time and space, but now they will have 2 to keep an eye on, which is bound to open space up for them both and of course Torres.

Thats how I see it, we just need some proper attacking wing players to finish off the plan.. and thats the hard bit!! Is Bentley or Milner good enough.. I'm not sure..

by **The Manhattan Project** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:28 pm

15M is too much for Barry.

At most I think 10M is enough with maybe Riise added to the deal.

Or maybe a swap, Barry for Crouch.

For Milner I'd offer 5M plus Pennant.

For Downing, I'd offer 8M plus a few players.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:34 pm

SSN Barry transfer immenent for 20 million :no

by **Roger Red Hat** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:55 pm

15m too much for Barry?

we all seem to think so but lets face it if we were trying to sell him we'd want nearer 20m at least.

He's worth what rafa thinks he's worth . If he's a key player in rafa's team building and Villa want 20m then so be it.

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:03 pm

20 million for Barry?? :no

by **The Manhattan Project** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:24 pm

If Rafa agreed to buy Barry for 20M, I'd have to start questioning his sanity.

I think anything over 8M is pushing it.

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:32 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:If Rafa agreed to buy Barry for 20M, I'd have to start questioning his sanity.

I think anything over 8M is pushing it.

unless 20 million is the 'value' of the deal....and he's paying for Barry with cash + players.

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