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by **Yossi_Benaloon** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:23 pm

Agua should be given a chance with an extended run to really show what he can bring to the team. To be honest the time has come where maybe the boss has to gamble if we are to get any sucess so maybe putting the Italian in can bring something extra that Lucas cannot.

by **RedSi35** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:40 pm

A virus? lol

Does he have a note from his mum? if not he has to play..................

Come on Rafa is that the best you got for "sorry son you're not playing today but lets keep it quiet in the press like"

by **Greavesie** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:46 pm

RedSi35 wrote:A virus? lol

Does he have a note from his mum? if not he has to play..................

Come on Rafa is that the best you got for "sorry son you're not playing today but lets keep it quiet in the press like"

you'd look a right t!t if he really was ill

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:28 pm

Rafa's man management again i see , he obviously slipped a dodgy prawn into aquilani's butty while he wasn't looking .

by **Greavesie** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:30 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Rafa's man management again i see , he obviously slipped a dodgy prawn into aquilani's butty while he wasn't looking .

you're forgetting the real talent of having the ability to spot the dodgy prawn in the packet Igor

by **Kerry07** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:41 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Doubt he will play tomorrow but he should play some part on Sunday. If Rafa is not going to play him just because we have done ok in recent times against them with Lucas then that's a bit silly imo. It's not like we are going for the title anyway, play the lad give him a chance! If he has recovered by then that is.

No mate we shouldnt play him at all
Hes sh'ite. Lucas is better.
If Rafa had any brain he would fu'ck Aquilani off and not even put him on the bench for the rest of the season. Lucas and Kuyt are the most creative and talented players weve got. They should start every game if we want to win.

(just trying a bit of reverse psychology on Rafa. We know how he likes to go against popular, rational thinking)

You've sussed Rafa out pretty well

Hes one of those... you say black i say white.

Its the key trait of stubborness.. and not being told what to do and being his own man facade.

If memory serves he went 99 games without the same XI.. and various times in that run he was told that surely with the team winning he'd retain the XI.. Nope, no one suggests anything to Roffa, regardless if its right he will do the opposite.

He doesnt praise top players when they get media adulation, but will praise pi'sspoor players who are gettin slammed (his reaction recently when lucas was savaged in the press, inwhich he incredulously responded that he controlled the game against reading, when they utterly dominated midfield ... you couldnt make it up). Rafa has an arrogance that is more subtle than Mourinho. He thinks hes right about everything (as Carra said, whatever u tell rafa hes done it better)

by **DrPepe** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:58 pm

Kerry07 wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Doubt he will play tomorrow but he should play some part on Sunday. If Rafa is not going to play him just because we have done ok in recent times against them with Lucas then that's a bit silly imo. It's not like we are going for the title anyway, play the lad give him a chance! If he has recovered by then that is.

No mate we shouldnt play him at all
Hes sh'ite. Lucas is better.
If Rafa had any brain he would fu'ck Aquilani off and not even put him on the bench for the rest of the season. Lucas and Kuyt are the most creative and talented players weve got. They should start every game if we want to win.

(just trying a bit of reverse psychology on Rafa. We know how he likes to go against popular, rational thinking)

You've sussed Rafa out pretty well

Hes one of those... you say black i say white.

Its the key trait of stubborness.. and not being told what to do and being his own man facade.

If memory serves he went 99 games without the same XI.. and various times in that run he was told that surely with the team winning he'd retain the XI.. Nope, no one suggests anything to Roffa, regardless if its right he will do the opposite.

He doesnt praise top players when they get media adulation, but will praise pi'sspoor players who are gettin slammed (his reaction recently when lucas was savaged in the press, inwhich he incredulously responded that he controlled the game against reading, when they utterly dominated midfield ... you couldnt make it up). Rafa has an arrogance that is more subtle than Mourinho. He thinks hes right about everything (as Carra said, whatever u tell rafa hes done it better)

....i'll just take a look at the first page of my LFC newsfeed.....

...here you go, Rafa "not praising" Pepe Reina :

"He's a great character, loves the fans and they love him" Sport.co.uk 15:20

Rafa is obviously not a gusher and is in the "hard" school of coaching (like many other coaches), but he does on occasion come out with statements publicly - which I'd imagine makes them all the more valuable , rather than the constant sweet nothings from a sycophantic manager... not that rafa cares a jot i;'m sure

and if you think the best way to "man manage" Lucas is to slate him in the press, then you're are way off - surely a player having a hard time needs support ffs

by **Kerry07** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:10 pm

DrPepe wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Doubt he will play tomorrow but he should play some part on Sunday. If Rafa is not going to play him just because we have done ok in recent times against them with Lucas then that's a bit silly imo. It's not like we are going for the title anyway, play the lad give him a chance! If he has recovered by then that is.

No mate we shouldnt play him at all
Hes sh'ite. Lucas is better.
If Rafa had any brain he would fu'ck Aquilani off and not even put him on the bench for the rest of the season. Lucas and Kuyt are the most creative and talented players weve got. They should start every game if we want to win.

(just trying a bit of reverse psychology on Rafa. We know how he likes to go against popular, rational thinking)

You've sussed Rafa out pretty well

Hes one of those... you say black i say white.

Its the key trait of stubborness.. and not being told what to do and being his own man facade.

If memory serves he went 99 games without the same XI.. and various times in that run he was told that surely with the team winning he'd retain the XI.. Nope, no one suggests anything to Roffa, regardless if its right he will do the opposite.

He doesnt praise top players when they get media adulation, but will praise pi'sspoor players who are gettin slammed (his reaction recently when lucas was savaged in the press, inwhich he incredulously responded that he controlled the game against reading, when they utterly dominated midfield ... you couldnt make it up). Rafa has an arrogance that is more subtle than Mourinho. He thinks hes right about everything (as Carra said, whatever u tell rafa hes done it better)

....i'll just take a look at the first page of my LFC newsfeed.....

...here you go, Rafa "not praising" Pepe Reina :

"He's a great character, loves the fans and they love him" Sport.co.uk 15:20

Rafa is obviously not a gusher and is in the "hard" school of coaching (like many other coaches), but he does on occasion come out with statements publicly - which I'd imagine makes them all the more valuable , rather than the constant sweet nothings from a sycophantic manager... not that rafa cares a jot i;'m sure

and if you think the best way to "man manage" Lucas is to slate him in the press, then you're are way off - surely a player having a hard time needs support ffs

I agree you dont slate him... but you don't BS about him either. He got dominated... and everyone saw it.

Rafa.. very simply, is a bluffer

by **DrPepe** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:17 pm

Kerry07 wrote:
DrPepe wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Doubt he will play tomorrow but he should play some part on Sunday. If Rafa is not going to play him just because we have done ok in recent times against them with Lucas then that's a bit silly imo. It's not like we are going for the title anyway, play the lad give him a chance! If he has recovered by then that is.

No mate we shouldnt play him at all
Hes sh'ite. Lucas is better.
If Rafa had any brain he would fu'ck Aquilani off and not even put him on the bench for the rest of the season. Lucas and Kuyt are the most creative and talented players weve got. They should start every game if we want to win.

(just trying a bit of reverse psychology on Rafa. We know how he likes to go against popular, rational thinking)

You've sussed Rafa out pretty well

Hes one of those... you say black i say white.

Its the key trait of stubborness.. and not being told what to do and being his own man facade.

If memory serves he went 99 games without the same XI.. and various times in that run he was told that surely with the team winning he'd retain the XI.. Nope, no one suggests anything to Roffa, regardless if its right he will do the opposite.

He doesnt praise top players when they get media adulation, but will praise pi'sspoor players who are gettin slammed (his reaction recently when lucas was savaged in the press, inwhich he incredulously responded that he controlled the game against reading, when they utterly dominated midfield ... you couldnt make it up). Rafa has an arrogance that is more subtle than Mourinho. He thinks hes right about everything (as Carra said, whatever u tell rafa hes done it better)

....i'll just take a look at the first page of my LFC newsfeed.....

...here you go, Rafa "not praising" Pepe Reina :

"He's a great character, loves the fans and they love him" Sport.co.uk 15:20

Rafa is obviously not a gusher and is in the "hard" school of coaching (like many other coaches), but he does on occasion come out with statements publicly - which I'd imagine makes them all the more valuable , rather than the constant sweet nothings from a sycophantic manager... not that rafa cares a jot i;'m sure

and if you think the best way to "man manage" Lucas is to slate him in the press, then you're are way off - surely a player having a hard time needs support ffs

I agree you dont slate him... but you don't BS about him either. He got dominated... and everyone saw it.

Rafa.. very simply, is a bluffer

ferguson said this season that wes brown was the best natural defender in england

they're all bluffers :laugh:

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:20 pm

Some of the best managers are bluffers , you know the ones . Where there asked by a reporter after the match . Did you see that blatant foul by your man or the obvious hand ball in the box ? and the answer is from Fergie or wenger . Err i didn't see it from where i was sitting . They all play the game . It's just that Rafa doesn't play it there way and that's why he's hounded by sky the media in genral and other managers. Rafa has his own way of managing and im fine with it personally like.

by **Kerry07** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:37 pm

True... but Rafa takes it to the nth degree hence is seen as an idiot in England.

Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho have a gravitas that when they speak its seen as lucid, intelligent..and coherent. Wengers "i did not see it" is classic bluff.. but it works because no admittance from him means the FA have less to go on.

With Rafa its the opposite.. coming out with "we were controlling the game" works ok in a one off moment of bluffing when we clearly hadn't, but stating it every week after losing for the umpteenth time gives fuel to his long list of detractors and feeds the ridicule he receives.

by **DrPepe** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:58 pm

Kerry07 wrote:True... but Rafa takes it to the nth degree hence is seen as an idiot in England.

Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho have a gravitas that when they speak its seen as lucid, intelligent..and coherent. Wengers "i did not see it" is classic bluff.. but it works because no admittance from him means the FA have less to go on.

With Rafa its the opposite.. coming out with "we were controlling the game" works ok in a one off moment of bluffing when we clearly hadn't, but stating it every week after losing for the umpteenth time gives fuel to his long list of detractors and feeds the ridicule he receives.

Rafa comes out with virtually the same guff if we win , lose or draw (because he is contractually obliged to say something).

Rafa is his own man, and won't play the game. Wenger et al may be "lucid, intelligent..and coherent." but they still talk the same old :censored:

as BigSam does :angry:

Are you a fan of Columbo? sometimes the shambling mumbler is the one having you on, not the other way around...

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:11 pm

I thought this was about Aquilani ffs ,sick of threads being used as a vehicle to abuse the manager ,ffs stick to the topic

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:15 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I thought this was about Aquilani ffs ,sick of threads being used as a vehicle to abuse the manager ,ffs stick to the topic

Aquilanis not playing
Rafa hasnt picked him

by **Kakloola** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:05 pm

I think Aquilni will help us
he will take us a mile further next season
I have a feeling that he will make the difference

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