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bigmick wrote:The Riera situation does highlight the fact that regardless of how compelling the evidence is to the contrary, some people will simply not see that there is an issue with the manager. It struck me while watching the Barcelona match last night, that while the top clubs are fighting it out for Champions Leagues, titles, FA Cups, already have cups in the bag etc etc we are battling a losing battle for fourth and have as our only hope of a trophy, the Euro Championship cup thingy.

We have to overturn a 1-0 first leg deficit to the mighty Lille, our own players are saying we play rubbish football and are now queueing up to say they want to leave as they can't get on with the manager. We stumble from one crisis to the next, and the rest of the football World moves on. Still, still, they back him and won't hear a word against him. I've asked the question before just how bad would things have to get before some people will begin to have more than severe doubts and I never get an answer so I won't bother asking it again. Already you've got people saying that if Rafa were let go and such and such was made the manager they would stop supporting the club. It beggars belief it really does.

Is there anybody who thinks that the debacle of this season would be much improved upon next season if Rafa were to stay in charge? If there is, how prey tell? Why not just say thanks a lot fella, you gave it your best shot and just move on. It's hard to in the words of the song walk on with hope in your hearts if you haven't got any, and we haven't at the moment. Lets cut our losses and move on, we tried it, it didn't work so lets get someone in and give them a shot. Lets face it, it can hardly be any worse. I cannot concieve of a situation where any manager with our group of players could do a worse job than the one that has been done this season.

bigmick wrote:The Riera situation does highlight the fact that regardless of how compelling the evidence is to the contrary, some people will simply not see that there is an issue with the manager. It struck me while watching the Barcelona match last night, that while the top clubs are fighting it out for Champions Leagues, titles, FA Cups, already have cups in the bag etc etc we are battling a losing battle for fourth and have as our only hope of a trophy, the Euro Championship cup thingy.

We have to overturn a 1-0 first leg deficit to the mighty Lille, our own players are saying we play rubbish football and are now queueing up to say they want to leave as they can't get on with the manager. We stumble from one crisis to the next, and the rest of the football World moves on. Still, still, they back him and won't hear a word against him. I've asked the question before just how bad would things have to get before some people will begin to have more than severe doubts and I never get an answer so I won't bother asking it again. Already you've got people saying that if Rafa were let go and such and such was made the manager they would stop supporting the club. It beggars belief it really does.

Is there anybody who thinks that the debacle of this season would be much improved upon next season if Rafa were to stay in charge? If there is, how prey tell? Why not just say thanks a lot fella, you gave it your best shot and just move on. It's hard to in the words of the song walk on with hope in your hearts if you haven't got any, and we haven't at the moment. Lets cut our losses and move on, we tried it, it didn't work so lets get someone in and give them a shot. Lets face it, it can hardly be any worse. I cannot concieve of a situation where any manager with our group of players could do a worse job than the one that has been done this season.

s@int wrote:To be honest I couldn't care less about the national sides. I want the players to be performing to win trophies with Liverpool, not so they can get in their WC squads. Maybe if we were winning a few more trophies the players would be happier with Liverpool and worrying less about if they would make the national team.

tonyeh wrote:

stmichael wrote:

tonyeh wrote:If you're not happy with a member of a team in regards to performance or whatever, you're SUPPOSED to discuss it with them. That's a basic management skill.

That's fuckin day 1 stuff, for christ's sake.

Doing nothing is not the way to go, under ANY circumstance. That's a recipe for disruption.

Exactly, so if the manager doesn't come to you then you go to them. It's a two way thing.

Going out and bleating about it in the press achieves nothing whatsoever.

How do you know that he hasn't?

"If I'm doing something badly and you are my boss, and you value me, then you are going to come and tell me what I have to do to play again. This is what hurts me.