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Reg wrote:Dont forget the sex, Dawson, some of us have more fun addictions.

Aye, Reg.  Internet porn addictions are serious business. 

dawson99 wrote:Hes a fricking adult. Calm down everyone.

Let people gamble, smoke and drink if they want to!

Hey more than happy for them to do whatever they want Daws - its the people wanting sympathy afterwards when it all goes pete tong that isnt for me .

Reg being addicted to have a tommy tank isnt anything to be proud off 

GYBS wrote:Do you still want Tevez over Messi after last wed Heimdall

Yes I do because I don't think we need Messi, not with super kuyt in the squad.   

Bad Bob wrote:

Reg wrote:Dont forget the sex, Dawson, some of us have more fun addictions.

Aye, Reg.  Internet porn addictions are serious business. 

Why, how much are you spending?   

GYBS wrote:Reg being addicted to have a tommy tank isnt anything to be proud off 

GYBS wrote:Helps with the right arm muscles i guess Reg

Don't be so armist.  We lefties like a w.ank too.   

Bad Bob wrote:

GYBS wrote:Helps with the right arm muscles i guess Reg

Don't be so armist.  We lefties like a w.ank too.   

tonyeh wrote:I think some people here aren't comparing like with like.

An addiction to gambling is very different than getting addicted to Heroin or even smoking. There are copious amounts of evidence out there to show EVERYBODY that trying heroin is a stupid, stupid decision that WILL wreck your life. Likewise, the same can be said for smoking these days too. People will still have a go and the results will be the same by and large. But, there are no excuses at the end of the day.

However, "having a flutter" is still presented as an acceptable pastime. Bookies line the street in every town in England and Ireland. The Irish government was even looking at bringing over Vegas style casinos at one point. Can you imagine? In Ireland? Bloody hell.

Anyway, my point is that there just isn't the stigma attached to gambling, as there is to taking hard drugs etc. So some people go into it completely unaware of it's potential addictive qualities. A friend of mine, his old man got addicted to the horses. An extremely intelligent, well read kind of chap. He had no real vices whatsoever. Liked a drink, but never got addicted to cigs or any other drug, found himself one day with a serious gambling debt on the g g's. He kicked it, over a very long period and always said, "I never saw it coming". He hated himself for it.

Personally, I would have more sympathy for someone with a gambling addiction than I would with somebody hooked on heroin. One is presented as an acceptable activity with it's inherent dangers masked to a large degree. The other is a mugs game, with absolutely no excuse for getting involved in.

You might want to do some research mate, just about every famous scientist, artist, philosopher and composer was on opium if you go back a hundred or so years you`ll find much more people were on it then than there is now and it wasnt just the "stupid" working classes.
Why do you think we waged wars over the stuff?
Life is about experiences, good and bad, they just serve to make you a wiser person as long as you come out the other end.
Im like Bill Hicks, never killed anyone, never raped anyone, never robed anyone, never got sacked from one fkin job and for the most part had a real good time, now weres my fkin comercial?
Its ignorant people who sit around tutting and judging who have the problem, not everyone who`s had a bit of a life and done abit of this and that is a stupid, aids infected, murdering cleptomaniac.

Rush Job wrote:

tonyeh wrote:I think some people here aren't comparing like with like.

An addiction to gambling is very different than getting addicted to Heroin or even smoking. There are copious amounts of evidence out there to show EVERYBODY that trying heroin is a stupid, stupid decision that WILL wreck your life. Likewise, the same can be said for smoking these days too. People will still have a go and the results will be the same by and large. But, there are no excuses at the end of the day.

However, "having a flutter" is still presented as an acceptable pastime. Bookies line the street in every town in England and Ireland. The Irish government was even looking at bringing over Vegas style casinos at one point. Can you imagine? In Ireland? Bloody hell.

Anyway, my point is that there just isn't the stigma attached to gambling, as there is to taking hard drugs etc. So some people go into it completely unaware of it's potential addictive qualities. A friend of mine, his old man got addicted to the horses. An extremely intelligent, well read kind of chap. He had no real vices whatsoever. Liked a drink, but never got addicted to cigs or any other drug, found himself one day with a serious gambling debt on the g g's. He kicked it, over a very long period and always said, "I never saw it coming". He hated himself for it.

Personally, I would have more sympathy for someone with a gambling addiction than I would with somebody hooked on heroin. One is presented as an acceptable activity with it's inherent dangers masked to a large degree. The other is a mugs game, with absolutely no excuse for getting involved in.

You might want to do some research mate, just about every famous scientist, artist, philosopher and composer was on opium if you go back a hundred or so years you`ll find much more people were on it then than there is now and it wasnt just the "stupid" working classes.
Why do you think we waged wars over the stuff?
Life is about experiences, good and bad, they just serve to make you a wiser person as long as you come out the other end.
Im like Bill Hicks, never killed anyone, never raped anyone, never robed anyone, never got sacked from one fkin job and for the most part had a real good time, now weres my fkin comercial?
Its ignorant people who sit around tutting and judging who have the problem, not everyone who`s had a bit of a life and done abit of this and that is a stupid, aids infected, murdering cleptomaniac.

tonyeh wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

tonyeh wrote:I think some people here aren't comparing like with like.

An addiction to gambling is very different than getting addicted to Heroin or even smoking. There are copious amounts of evidence out there to show EVERYBODY that trying heroin is a stupid, stupid decision that WILL wreck your life. Likewise, the same can be said for smoking these days too. People will still have a go and the results will be the same by and large. But, there are no excuses at the end of the day.

However, "having a flutter" is still presented as an acceptable pastime. Bookies line the street in every town in England and Ireland. The Irish government was even looking at bringing over Vegas style casinos at one point. Can you imagine? In Ireland? Bloody hell.

Anyway, my point is that there just isn't the stigma attached to gambling, as there is to taking hard drugs etc. So some people go into it completely unaware of it's potential addictive qualities. A friend of mine, his old man got addicted to the horses. An extremely intelligent, well read kind of chap. He had no real vices whatsoever. Liked a drink, but never got addicted to cigs or any other drug, found himself one day with a serious gambling debt on the g g's. He kicked it, over a very long period and always said, "I never saw it coming". He hated himself for it.

Personally, I would have more sympathy for someone with a gambling addiction than I would with somebody hooked on heroin. One is presented as an acceptable activity with it's inherent dangers masked to a large degree. The other is a mugs game, with absolutely no excuse for getting involved in.

You might want to do some research mate, just about every famous scientist, artist, philosopher and composer was on opium if you go back a hundred or so years you`ll find much more people were on it then than there is now and it wasnt just the "stupid" working classes.
Why do you think we waged wars over the stuff?
Life is about experiences, good and bad, they just serve to make you a wiser person as long as you come out the other end.
Im like Bill Hicks, never killed anyone, never raped anyone, never robed anyone, never got sacked from one fkin job and for the most part had a real good time, now weres my fkin comercial?
Its ignorant people who sit around tutting and judging who have the problem, not everyone who`s had a bit of a life and done abit of this and that is a stupid, aids infected, murdering cleptomaniac.

I'm not talking about a 100 years ago. I'm talking about today and today, there is absolutely no excuse for trying the likes of heroin and thinking that everything's going to be hunky dory...

...unless you've been living under a rock, in a cave, on the moon, with Slayer banding in your ears for the last three decades.

I fail to see the difference, its been used for thousands of years, you think the kind of artists and interllectuals, the very people who created the art you look at the music you listen to and the science you learn didnt know it was addictive?
Yeh alright pall have it your way, you obviously know alot about this subject.
This isnt really the place for this kind of discussion anyway,if you want to drop the ignorance we can do this over pm.

peewee wrote:can we not say depression can be cured by will power or by just cheering the feck up, OSD is another one that I suppose can be cured by will power, but it is still an illness.

I do not have an addictive personality so I can't talk from experience about how easy or hard it is to give something up, I think though it's not as easy as just saying you will stop if your body craves a substance, I imagine gambling releases endorphines which gives you the high when gambling, is this the rush you get from gambling or is it something else that causes the addiction?