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by **Bam** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:30 pm

To be sure to be sure.

by **GYBS** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:34 pm

I can understand where emerald and dundalk come from - my mum is irish and she hates being called a paddy - I guess to non irish people you cant understand why someone would find it offensive but in the world these days you have to realise that some people will find things offensive and you have to take everyones view into consideration . I guess if emerald or dundalk or any irish person was constantly called paddy then it would get on their nerves and become offensive to them and people have to understand that no matter how silly you think they are - One persons joke is another persons insult.

by **bigmick** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:38 pm

Quick question, is it Ok to call Taff, "Taff" since he actually has it as his name

Because "Taff" as far as I'm aware is a geographic group nickname, ie those who come from Wales are sometimes called "Taffs". Just checking, and while we're at it can we clear up "scouser", "cockney", "Manc" (that must be OK surely, it's onamatapeic (well it isn't but you get my drift). Geordie and the like must be Ok, Brummie and all them? It's a bit confusing sometimes particularly when these little sub groups call themselves by these names, and use it in generic terms themselves but others aren't allowed to go there. A good example of that is n!gger, not that I am complaining about not being able to use it, it's a horrible word. A bit like c..., or crevice, that's a dirty word

, security on the other hand isn't.

by **GYBS** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:40 pm

bigmick wrote:Quick question, is it Ok to call Taff, "Taff" since he actually has it as his name Because "Taff" as far as I'm aware is a geographic group nickname, ie those who come from Wales are sometimes called "Taffs". Just checking, and while we're at it can we clear up "scouser", "cockney", "Manc" (that must be OK surely, it's onamatapeic (well it isn't but you get my drift). Geordie and the like mut be Ok, Brummie and all them? It's a bit confusing sometimes particularly when these little sub groups call themselves by these names, and use it in generic terms themselves but others aren't allowed to go there.

Its all down to how that person feels mate and if he finds it offensive or not - if you call a welsh person a taff or etc etc then if that person says i dont want to be called that cause i find it offensive then you have to respect his wishes .

by **Bam** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:42 pm

bigmick wrote:Quick question, is it Ok to call Taff, "Taff" since he actually has it as his name Because "Taff" as far as I'm aware is a geographic group nickname, ie those who come from Wales are sometimes called "Taffs". Just checking, and while we're at it can we clear up "scouser", "cockney", "Manc" (that must be OK surely, it's onamatapeic (well it isn't but you get my drift). Geordie and the like must be Ok, Brummie and all them? It's a bit confusing sometimes particularly when these little sub groups call themselves by these names, and use it in generic terms themselves but others aren't allowed to go there. A good example of that is n!gger, not that I am complaining about not being able to use it, it's a horrible word. A bit like c..., or crevice, that's a dirty word , security on the other hand isn't.

Thanks Mick for that.

I'm a Cockney, well a Southerner, and dont get offended when we play Chelsea and everyone and their Mother shouts off 'Lets beat these Cockney K.unts'

by **GYBS** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:48 pm

Unfortunatly these days we have to be more tolerant of othe rpeople and thier views - it the way of the world now - FFS we arent even allowed to shout too loudly in peoples faces in the military now when they go through training in case they say your bullying them ??

by **tonyeh** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:54 pm

There seems to be a few people getting a bit upset about the use of "paddy" in Bams post and while personally, I couldn't give a toss about being called a "paddy" or a "mick", I can understand some may feel miffed about it. Also, if you're going too use such terms, it's a bit silly to think that the possibility of offence to at least some people doesn't exist. Of course, the person's ethicity is also part of the equasion. For example, if we change Bams sentence to the ones below, would they have been said?

"Its typically bias to see all the Yid's flooding the boards, jumping on the 'Bennayoun was treated unfairy' and 'Good enough for LFC' bandwagon."

or

"Its typically bias to see all the Wog's flooding the boards, jumping on the 'Babel was treated unfairy' and 'Good enough for LFC' bandwagon."

The answer is no, obviously.

In saying that, I believe that most "Offence" is actually used as a weapon to gain the moral high ground on something. But Bam's original post was said with a certain amount of spite, if not anger and it's in those moments that we should all check the words we use carefully.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:59 pm

I think John Barnes had the right idea, when asked if he preferred to be called black or coloured, he said "I prefer John".

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:00 am

yeah spot on tonyeh and saint - someone somehwre will find something offensive in anything that is said these days

by **oreilly** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:05 am

im irish and i dont consider being called a paddy offensive, paddy to me is usually said by a happy american or brit - no harm ment, just a term of endearment --------- thats my view anyway

by **Dundalk** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:20 am

How the hell this has become about race and PC is beyond me...

So ill start again with what the thread is supposed to be about!

The goal against Arsenal and the ball he gave Torres in the derby at Goodison, class

I for one will miss him at the club

Best of luck Robbie

by **GYBS** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:21 am

yeah good luck robie now your back home

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:24 am

Is there any truth in the rumour that Kuyt is to take over the number 7 shirt next season ?

by **Dundalk** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:26 am

That rumour seems to be getting stronger

Of the current team who would you like to get it

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