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by **stmichael** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:18 pm

Get Maxi Rodriguez in. Great player.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:48 pm

sell - Pennant, Voronin, Benayoun, Lucas, Doss, Martin and Itandge
give more playing time to - Nemeth, Pacheco, Insua, El Zhar, Plessis and Darby.

we could buy a right winger (Jakub Blazczykowski from Dortmund) but i think our supposed starlets will need the platform to bloom into players that they were bought to be. the best way for them to improve and mature as a player is by playing first team games and though they may struggle initially, it will build their charactor. im all for advocating the young ones.

by **redmikey** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:40 pm

for me ....... PENNANT HAS TO GO.......... scrap the reserve team and just loan any god yound uder 18s we have developed to chester tramere and the like, lucas comes on and for the life of me i can't see what he does BUT sometimes that is the sign of a great player because i always see what penant does

by **bigkarl** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:26 pm

Would definately get rid of Benayoun and Pennant, Neither are goos enough in my view and only collecting wages and restricting the opportunities of the younger players!

Cash in on Veronin and that tube Dossena, looks fat and out of his depth so far!

Anyone else thinking the Carragher may play one of the full back berths when Skrtel comes back from injury, Agger gives so much for the team and Carragher is actually a very good attacking full back who puts in some great crosses!

by **tubby** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:49 pm

Cash in on Voronin? I wonder if we could even raise 1Million for him. As for Dossena I wonder if we could even get half of the 8mil we paid. Hopefully he asks to return to Italy in the summer.

by **DanAn** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:42 pm

Zidane wrote:I don't think we will make any drastic changes since we're low on funds as it is but it would be nice to see another RB or LB come in. I doubt we'll get a LB though since we have 2 but we need an alternative for Arbeloa he's played every game I think?

As for the person that said Man U can spend big on just one player, so can we. We spent what 7m on Dossena 8m on Riera and 20m on Keane? Somewhere around there it adds up to 35m, 5 more than what was spent on Berbatov. Although I think we were better off buying 3 instead of 1 since our squad isn't as strong as Man U's we should go for high quality more often instead of usually going for quantity.

But in order spend that 35 M we sold:
Crouch - 9 M
Riise - 4 M
Finnan- ?
- And significantly lost Kewell's bloated salary off the books.

ManU who spent 30 M on Berbatov and didn't sell anyone added 30 M to their list while we added around 15M.

The reality is our budget is consistent half what Chelsea and United spend.

by **aCe'** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:18 pm

DanAn wrote:
Zidane wrote:I don't think we will make any drastic changes since we're low on funds as it is but it would be nice to see another RB or LB come in. I doubt we'll get a LB though since we have 2 but we need an alternative for Arbeloa he's played every game I think?

As for the person that said Man U can spend big on just one player, so can we. We spent what 7m on Dossena 8m on Riera and 20m on Keane? Somewhere around there it adds up to 35m, 5 more than what was spent on Berbatov. Although I think we were better off buying 3 instead of 1 since our squad isn't as strong as Man U's we should go for high quality more often instead of usually going for quantity.

But in order spend that 35 M we sold:
Crouch - 9 M
Riise - 4 M
Finnan- ?
- And significantly lost Kewell's bloated salary off the books.

ManU who spent 30 M on Berbatov and didn't sell anyone added 30 M to their list while we added around 15M.

The reality is our budget is consistent half what Chelsea and United spend.

not to open up the same old discussion or anything but if u do the research u'll find out that in terms of net spending since rafa took over, we'v outspent manutd and arsenal and are probably not that far off chelsea either...
a case of too many bad buys and thus the need to sell or else the squad is simply too big and lacking in quality..

by **DanAn** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:26 am

aCe' wrote:not to open up the same old discussion or anything but if u do the research u'll find out that in terms of net spending since rafa took over, we'v outspent manutd and arsenal and are probably not that far off chelsea either...
a case of too many bad buys and thus the need to sell or else the squad is simply too big and lacking in quality..

I just did my research and since 2004, unless I'm missing something, I have ManU's net spending somewhere in the vicinity of 50 M above ours and that's with Tevez still to come.

by **GYBS** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:15 am

we cant be anywhere near chelseas spending and prob behind man utd spending as well .

by **tubby** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:55 am

They spent 18Mil on Carrick, 35Mil on Anderson & Nani. 30mil on Berbatov. And we are only just behind them? :laugh:

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:00 am

2004/05

UNITED:
Spent:
27/5/04 Alan Smith £7m
11/6/04 Gabriel Heinze £6.9m
31/8/04 Wayne Rooney £29m
Total spent: £42.9m
Received:
26/5/04 Danny Pugh £1m
29/7/04 Nicky Butt £2.5m
20/8/04 Diego Forlan £2m
31/1/05 Eric Djemba-Djemba £1.35m
Total Received: £6.85

United net spent: £36.05m

Running Gross Total: £42.9m

Running Net Total: £36.05m

LIVERPOOL:
Spent:
1/7/04 Djibril Cisse £14m
27/7/04 Josemi £2m
1/8/04 Javier Luis Garcia £6m
1/8/04 Xabi Alonso £10.5
13/08/04 Antonio Nunez, £2m
13/1/05 Fernando Morientes £6.3m
21/1/05 Scott Carson £0.75m
Total spent: £41.55m
Received:
20/5/04 Emile Heskey £6.25
10/8/04 Danny Murphy £2.5
13/8/04 Michael Owen £10m
Total Received: £18.75m

Liverpool net spent: £22.8m

Running Gross Total: £41.55

Running Net Total: £22.8m

2005/06

UNITED:
Spent:
1/6/05 Edwin van der Sar £1.2m
5/7/05 Ji-Sung Park £4m
19/7/05 Ben Foster £1m
4/1/06 Nemanja Vidic £7m
10/1/06 Patrice Evra £5.5m
Total spent: £18.7m
Received:
4/8/05 Philip Neville £3.5m
8/8/05 Kleberson £2.5m
Total Received: £6m

United net spent: £12.7m

Running Gross Total: £55.6m

Running Net Total: £48.75m

LIVERPOOL:
Spent:
4/7/05 Jose Reina £6m
4/7/05 Mark Gonzalez £4.5m
13/7/05 Mohamed Sissoko £5.6
20/7/05 Peter Crouch £7m
12/1/06 Daniel Agger £5.8m
Total spent: £28.9m
Received:
16/6/05 El-Hadji Diouf £4m
23/8/05 Milan Baros £6.5m
Total Received: £10.5m

Liverpool net spent: £18.4m

Running Gross Total: £70.45m

Running Net Total: £41.2m

2006/07

UNITED:
Spent:
31/7/06 Michael Carrick £18.6m
Total spent: £18.6m
Received:
3/6/06 Jon Obi Mikel £12m
15/6/06 Jonathan Spector £0.5m
14/7/06 Sylvain Ebanks-Blake £0.3m
28/7/06 Ruud van Nistelrooy £10.3m
Total Received: £23.1m

United net spent: -£4.5m

Running Gross Total: £74.2m

Running Net Total: £44.25m

LIVERPOOL:
Spent:
22/6/06 Craig Bellamy £6m
1/7/06 Gabriel Paletta £2m
26/7/06 Jermaine Pennant £6.7m
18/8/06 Dirk Kuyt £9m
31/1/07 Alvaro Arbeloa £2.6m
Total spent: £26.3m
Received:
13/06/06 Zak Whitbread £0.2m
25/5/06 Fernando Morientes £3m
4/8/06 Antonio Barragan £0.675m
8/8/06 Djimi Traore £2m
30/8/06 Neil Mellor £0.5m
31/08/06 Jan Kromkamp £1.75m
??/10/06 Chris Kirkland £3.5m
18/1/07 Darren Potter £0.25m
22/1/07 Stephen Warnock £1.5m
Total Received: £13.375

Liverpool net spent: £12.925m

Running Gross Total: £96.75m

Running Net Total: £54.125m

2007/08

UNITED:
Spent:
??/??/07 Tomasz Kuszczak £2m
1/7/07 Owen Hargreaves £17m
2/7/07 Anderson £17m
2/7/07 Nani £14m
Total spent: £50m
Received:
??/??/07 David Jones £1m
??/??/07 Tim Howard £3m
16/7/07 Kieran Richardson £5.5m
31/7/07 Giuseppe Rossi £6.7m
3/8/07 Alan Smith £6m
23/8/07 Gabriel Heinze £8m
??/??/08 Ryan Shawcross £1m
??/??/08 Phil Bardsley £2m
Total Received: £33.2m

United net spent: £16.8m

Running Gross Total: £124.2m

Running Net Total: £61.05m

LIVERPOOL:
Spent:
11/05/07 Lucas Leiva £5m
28/06/07 Mikel Dominguez £0.27m
01/07/07 Sebastian Leto £1.8m
4/7/07 Fernando Torres £20.2m
12/7/07 Yossi Benayoun £5m
13/7/07 Ryan Babel £11.5m
26/08/07 Emiliano Insua £1.3m
11/01/08 Martin Skrtel £6.5m
29/02/08 Javier Mascherano £18.6m
Total spent: £70.17m
Received:
4/5/07 Florent Sinama-Pongolle £2.7m
20/6/07 Danny O Donnell £0.1m
3/7/07 Javier Luis Garcia £4m
8/7/07 Djibril Cisse £6m
10/7/07 Craig Bellamy £7.5m
19/7/07 Mark Gonzalez £3.5m
26/08/07 Gabriel Paletta £1.2m
28/01/08 Mohamed Sissoko £8.2m
Total Received: 33.2m

Liverpool net spent: £36.97m

Running Gross Total: £166.92m

Running Net Total: £91.095m

2008/09

UNITED:
Spent:
14/06/08 Davide Petrucci £0
Total spent: £0
Received:
27/05/08 Gerard Pique £6m
29/07/08 Chris Eagles £1.25m
Total Received: £7.25m

United net spent: -£7.25

United Final Gross Total: £124.2m

United Final Net Total: £53.8m

LIVERPOOL:
Spent:
03/07/2008 Philipp Degen £0
04/07/2008 Andrea Dossena £7m
11/07/2008 Diego Cavalieri £3.5m
24/07/08 David Ngog £1.5m
28/07/08 Robbie Keane £19m
Total spent: £31m
Received:
01/07/2008 John Arne Riise £4m
01/07/2008 Harry Kewell £0
02/07/2008 Anthony Le Tallec Undisclosed
11/07/2008 Peter Crouch £11m
14/07/2008 Danny Guthrie £2.25m
18/07/2008 Scott Carson £4m
Total Received: £21.25m

Liverpool net spent: £9.75m

Liverpool Final Gross Total: £197.92m

Liverpool Final Net Total: £101.7m

So since 2004/05, Liverpool have spent £73.72m more than United on transfers. Note this does not include Riera £8 million, OR Berbatov to mancs £30million.

by **bigmick** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:16 am

This argument has been done before and it always amazes people when S@int proves via stats that we really ought not to be complaining too much about transfer budgets. Usually at this point somebody says, "Yeah but what about the players they bought BEFORE this period FFS? :angry:

. Rio Ferdinand and blokes like that" (they don't always get angry about it I just put that bit in to give it a bit more drama).

I can't remember off the top of my head what the answer is to that one. Ah yes, I've got it, it's "feck off you numpty

".

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:23 am

Not my work this time Mick, I couldn't be bothered going through all the transfers again after last time, so I just copied this off the net....... hope its right!

by **Judge** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:25 am

shakey wrote:
heimdall wrote:
mistyred wrote:My sons as good a Lucas right now and he's 11yrs old

Lets get him signed

PMSL just spat coffee out laughing

why is that when folk find something remotely funny, they are always spitting coffee out ?

drink Fu*king tea will ya

by **GYBS** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:35 am

interesting stats saint and ones not seen before . The thing that stands out for me is rafa having to stretch the money on numerous players where as man utd spent it on a fewer amount off players . Rafa has had to totally change the squad bar three players and taggert has just been able to add and tinker with big money buys to a solid squad already there .

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