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GYBS wrote:so what if they were lucky goals . You could say they were lucky that we only scored as many as we did have other chances . Both the mancs and chelsea have scored lucky goals against and in the end they werent lucky wins . We got what we deserted .

Have you been reading the posts? ??

We're talking about the lack of goal threat from Liverpool when Torres is out and the fact that there really isn't a lot of options up front for regular goals.

Liverpool can't just rely on Torres and luck for positive results, when Chelsea are getting multiple goals from multiple players.

s@int wrote:Up to the realisation that Keane probably won't suddenly turn into a goalscoring machine as soon has he got his first few goals, I would have probably agreed that we needed a rightsided player more. NOW I believe we need a goalscorer more than another rightsided player.

After all we have Kuyt who is doing well on the right at the moment, Pennant , Benayoun, not forgetting that Gerrard had a great season playing on the right. What we DON'T have is someone knocking goals in for fun, and even with Torres back unless Keane starts to get goals soon, THAT is what will cost us this season.

Why fix something that isn't broken, when you can fix something that has never worked?

Bad Bob wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

tonyeh wrote:Sometimes I wish Rafa would just leave things alone as the game progresses. I fail to understand his subs in the Spurs game at all and it did liverpool no good at all. Taking Keane off for Babel.........no.   

You're by no means the only person that's commented on this, Tony, so I'm not singling you out but...


...I find it intriguing that so many were hailing Rafa for replacing Keane with Babel on 60 minutes with us one goal up at Stamford Bridge yet less than a week later he replaces Keane with Babel on 66 minutes with us one goal up at White Hart Lane and suddenly it's a terrible decision?   I find that perspective hard to take seriously.

BB, Keane has with spurs for ages. the defenders would know his weaknesses but he will know theirs too. he would have been a better option to manipulate any defensive weakness compared to Babel.

You can look at it the other way around, though, Maypax.  Keane may try too hard to perform against his old club and, for a player that's already struggling for confidence, that can be problem.  Throw in the boo boys and the likelihood that he's not fully fit and I think the substitution looks plausible.  In any case, I just don't buy those that suggest that it was an obviously bad call.  It sounds like people looking for reasons to pin a fluke loss on Rafa, IMO.

who knows, someday someone might just blame bad luck on Rafa 

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

s@int wrote:Up to the realisation that Keane probably won't suddenly turn into a goalscoring machine as soon has he got his first few goals, I would have probably agreed that we needed a rightsided player more. NOW I believe we need a goalscorer more than another rightsided player.

After all we have Kuyt who is doing well on the right at the moment, Pennant , Benayoun, not forgetting that Gerrard had a great season playing on the right. What we DON'T have is someone knocking goals in for fun, and even with Torres back unless Keane starts to get goals soon, THAT is what will cost us this season.

Why fix something that isn't broken, when you can fix something that has never worked?

i agree. look at Manure. they have Rooney, Tevez, Berba, Ronaldo who are all capable of individual genius at times. Chelsea has Drogba, Anelka, Cole, Lampard, etc.

i believe our team is well equipped to win the league but we are missing a goalscorer other than Torres, or Gerrard. someone who can make the impossible seem ordinary a la Luis Garcia or an opportunist striker like Owen. no matter how i dislike him, i would want him back if it means helping us clinch the title.

we're really close. just need to be more clinical and ruthless in front of goal.