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passmeistro_#14 wrote:why not benni mccarthy, scored the same amount of goals as berbatov did last season.
he was quoted to have said that he'd be tempted to leave blackburn for a "champions league" club.

that champions league club would probably be chelsea. he is in love with mourinho.

bigmick wrote:When I left for NZ, I was very underwhelmed by Tevez but most people who's views I respect are of the opinion that in the latter half of the season he was brilliant so I've no doubt he was. As such, he would look like a good signing to me if he is available when the likes of Eto aren't. He is by now used to english football, he is young, and although as some have pointed out his "proven" period is relatively short, he does lead the line for the Argentine national team so he's no flash in the pan on the World stage.

As for the price, well it is what it is. Compared to Rooney he looks expensive? Well most people do to be honest. Man Utd stole him and I said as much at the time. It's one of the many failings of Mourinho's claim to be "the special one" that during his tenure at the richest club in the World and during a time when they were paying ridiculous money for sometimes good but not outstanding players, he allowed Rooney to go to Man Utd for 23 million. We couldn't have stopped it, neither could Arsenal but had Chelsea bid along with the laughable Barcodes, Rooney would have gone for over 30 million without a doubt.

It also doesn't look expensive to me when you consider the figures being bandied about for Darren Bent. While I'm a bit of a fan of the Charlton man compared to most people on here, it's reasonable to assume he would be some way short of getting in the Argentina team. There would also barring disaster be a chunky sell-on fee (worst case scenario barring injury is that he completely flops, and given his age and pedigree I'd be confident of getting AT LEAST half your money back).

So no, if we can't get the best (Eto) then lets get someone exceptional. If it were to be Tevez, I'll go with the likes of John Craigs judgement and you wouldn't hear any complaints from me.

LFC2007 wrote:

Elchris wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:Rooney's more proven than Tevez, not necessarily better.  Very similar players.  Tevez has done exceptionally well.  It took him half a season to adapt to English football and since then he's never looked back.  He has brilliant technical ability and this will only become more obvious playing at a bigger club with better players.

Rooney is more proven, IMO he is a better player than Tevez. He has achieved at the highest level and has played some exceptional football, he is a special talent, much more so than Tevez at this moment in time.

Rooney seems to be the better player rite now. We cannot judge the talent between them at the moment for tevez has just arrived and did very well after a bloddy hard time.Rooney on the other hand is used to the league here so he looks better.

Mayb in the nex season if tevez is still here , we can proprely judge them in who is better , for now rooney is the one.IF tevez was english , i think no one would really mind the 30 million price tag , and i do think he's worth 30mp.

carrick -18mp
hargreaveas-18mp
anderson - 18mp*somewhere

juz too show how the market stands

If you ask me who is the better player in terms of talent I would say Rooney. Even during his time at Boca and Corinthians I was never totally convinced about Tevez, although Rooney is no mr fitness, Tevez just didn't appear to take care of his physique and appeared laboured. I think he is a fantastic player but he would need to show more discipline with his fitness to be consistent at our level in the league and in Europe.

Rooney IMO is a better player as an individual, can Tevez do just as good a job in a team - absolutely. If we can get Tevez for anything under £20m then great.I really don't see us paying £30m for him, nor would I want us to because of the risk. We are not Man Utd, they can afford the risk of bringing in the likes of Anderson and Nani for silly money because their squad is virtually complete, ours is not.

Tevez has a band mate , that shows he's got load of talents...  just kidding mate 

Either way i dont see us gettin him for less then 25 million at least , mayb a loan deal could well , like the one we are having on mascherano.But Inter are showing alot of interst on him , so we'll see how it goes.

I'll bet he goona score a goal like maradona n messi where he goes past 5-6 players one day .

Bamaga man wrote:

john craig wrote:Very seldom do young potentially world class International forwards who already have Premiership experience, become available in today's market.

For me, Tevez has it all and in the next couple of years he will be one of the world's best players.  Just my opinion.  You don't get these players cheap though.  Some scoffed when Fergie payed 20+ million for Rooney.  Looking back now it was a bargain.  I suspect whoever stumps up the cash for Tevez this summer won't regret it either.

If we can afford the 30 million then I'd pay it.  If we have to pay 9 million for a season's loan with the option to buy outright at the end of it, I'd pay it.  Whether our owners will sanction that much for one player, I'm beginning to doubt.

Good to see you posting again John.

BTW I agree with you, Tevez will be a hit where ever he ends up. A cracking player, the knid of player we could do with.

Like I said before if Carrick is worth 18M and Bent has been priced at 17M, then Tevez at 30m is fair enough.

If we've got the money or like you said do the loan deal we should take him, he'd be great for us IMHO.

The Manhattan Project wrote:

  I thought that too, thats one way to scare the oppo defenders

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:Rooney's more proven than Tevez, not necessarily better.  Very similar players.  Tevez has done exceptionally well.  It took him half a season to adapt to English football and since then he's never looked back.  He has brilliant technical ability and this will only become more obvious playing at a bigger club with better players.

Rooney is more proven, IMO he is a better player than Tevez. He has achieved at the highest level and has played some exceptional football, he is a special talent, much more so than Tevez at this moment in time.

LFC2007 wrote:

Pedro Maradona wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

john craig wrote:Rooney's more proven than Tevez, not necessarily better.  Very similar players.  Tevez has done exceptionally well.  It took him half a season to adapt to English football and since then he's never looked back.  He has brilliant technical ability and this will only become more obvious playing at a bigger club with better players.

Rooney is more proven, IMO he is a better player than Tevez. He has achieved at the highest level and has played some exceptional football, he is a special talent, much more so than Tevez at this moment in time.

tevez has been south american player of the year 3 times already, when rooney is european player of the year 3 times i might agree with you.....i think you are believing the hype about rooney, hes a brilliant player no doubt about that, but I think he still has a lot to prove yet. Tevez has frightening ability he has done it in south america and i think he will prove the same in europe in the next couple of seasons....if it is in a liverpool shirt it would be brilliant.....

European football attracts the best players from South America - FACT. When Tevez achieves anything like Rooney has done at manure, then I may consider him the better player. There is no "hype" as you put it to believe about Rooney, he is a great player, I can't think of many players in world football at his age who are better than him. Cristiano Ronaldo is about as far as you get. There is no doubt in my mind who is the better player between the two - Rooney is just a step ahead and has more natural talent.

South American player of the year is a brilliant achievement, and I'm not doubting his ability, but Rooney is a better player IMO. To achieve 3 European player of the year awards in a row, you have to be the best of a generation i.e. Cruyff, van basten, Platini, Dis stefano, Beckenbauer - even some of them didn't achieve three in a row. It is significantly easier to achieve 3 South American awards since the best South American players are often already in Europe. Four of the past 10 winners have been Brazilians.

crillylfc wrote:well rick parry as screw up the chances of gettin him anyway!!