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Postby mr_weed_80@hotmail.com » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:55 am

would nobody be scared by tevez's huge face, i mean sorry to get off footie matters
but i mean the reason he scores is probs because the goalie doesn't want to be eaten!!!   :D
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Postby 66-1182161184 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:57 am

He is very scarry looking! :D
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Postby mr_weed_80@hotmail.com » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:59 am

ive noticed a similarity between his face n a rotten pineapple...might just be me though hehe
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Postby bigmick » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:49 pm

mr_weed_80@hotmail.com wrote:ive noticed a similarity between his face n a rotten pineapple...might just be me though hehe

And I've noticed a striking similarity between your posts and a those of a WUM. They are equally pointless and similarly unfunny.
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Postby grayghost » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:10 pm

Tevez has had a good decent international carrer so far while rooney has done fook all yes rooney is a fantastic player but i belive Tevez is better simply because i think he has the abilty to create and score more goals then Rooney.
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Postby 66-1182161184 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:38 pm

Rooney Scored 23 goals this season.  Tevez scored 9.
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Postby supersub » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:42 pm

Continual manc comparisons in every post....Over critical of all things Liverpool whilst pretending to be a red...your time is almost up Brookside and that goes for your other alter ego Bread.
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Postby grayghost » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:45 pm

Brookside wrote:Rooney Scored 23 goals this season.  Tevez scored 9.

I did noy say that he did score more goals then him i just said that he had the abilty.

O yeah I think you can agree Rooney had more games way more games than Tevez for a very attacking side who create a lot of chances.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Pedro Maradona wrote:no rooney is a major talent im not doubting that, I just think you are being a little eurocentric when you arent giving the credit to south american players, I am a big boca juniors fan and I watch a lot of their games and when Tevez was with Boca he was incredible with them, he was the same in corinthians in brazil, and he was was the reason why west ham stayed up this year. he was the best player in south america for 3 years so it was inevitable he would end up in Europe like the best south american players do, Rooney just happens to be from Europe so he is there already, Tevez is more skilful than rooney and has the ability to be one of the best players in european football the same as he proved to be in South America from 2003 to 2006.
As for ronaldo? .........I just dont like him and I think he is overrated........ but thats just my opinion for what it is worth.

Rooney and Ronaldo are great players, as is Tevez  - just not on the same level at this moment in time purely because he has nowhere near the type of top level European experience.

I disagree with you about Rooney being less skillful than Tevez, Tevez may have flair and a South American look, but there's nothing he can do that Rooney is not capable of. Ronaldo is a cracking player, IMO definitely not overrated.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:11 pm

maguskwt wrote:
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yeah i agree with Pedro Maradona that tevez is more skillful than rooney... his finishing skill is more natural and intelligent than rooney... on top of that he's a free kick specialist too... so I kinda fail to see how rooney has more natural talent than tevez that LFC2007 suggested...

however I do agree that skills alone does not make a better player... rooney has intensity, drive, strength as well as pace which makes him a tremendous player...but I believe that tevez has the same qualities...

this is now debatable just because rooney has improved tremendously since joining man u under ferguson... and so did ronaldo... previously they were a bit of one-trick ponies IMO... rooney just knew how to run at defence and wack the ball into the net...he did not have intelligent finishing skills like owen... where as ronaldo did his countless cross-overs and always fail to spot a team mate in a better position... I remember early last season I was thinking how overated ronaldo was...

I think right now rooney seems better to alot of ppl just because he's playing in the premier league and in man u... if tevez played in a similar high profile league he would be just as tremendous if not more... and not to mention rooney was an early bloomer... this does not mean that tevez is a lesser player than rooney... look at van nistelrooy... if nothing early bloomers are in danger of burning out early (see owen) ...in that aspect I don't like the trend of embracing and hyping young talents too early... ppl are always looking out for the next owen or rooney... not really good for the players themselves... I know great players cannot be held back like pele, brazilian ronaldo, maradona who all were at the world cup very young... but owen was not one of them... rooney is not either until he can single handedly win the world cup for england...

If tevez goes on to sign for another big club and was successful I would regret not paying 30 million for him (If he was available to us with that amount)...

Rooney is a brilliant talent, maybe because Tevez has a fancy name and is from South America he gets compared to Maradona and his fancy footwork gets overhyped. If we signed Tevez I would be delighted, at this moment in time however Rooney is the better player. Rooney was never a one-trick poney, he has always had that deft ability on the ball - that is something which is natural to him. If he was a one-trick poney at the time I don't envisage the mancs would have ever paid £23m+ for him, he had natural talent.

The question of "early burn out" is not one I would apply to Rooney, he has ability that is unique, much more ability than Owen will ever have. Had Rooney been completely fit for the Euros in 2004 and the world cup in 2006 we may have gone further - but it depends on the team. If we get our tactics wrong - like Sven did - then we haven't got a chance anyway. Pele played in a magnificent Brazilian side with flowing football, Maradona played in a brilliant Agrentina side.
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Postby Pedro Maradona » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:02 pm

Brookside wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
john craig wrote:Rooney's more proven than Tevez, not necessarily better.  Very similar players.  Tevez has done exceptionally well.  It took him half a season to adapt to English football and since then he's never looked back.  He has brilliant technical ability and this will only become more obvious playing at a bigger club with better players.

Rooney is more proven, IMO he is a better player than Tevez. He has achieved at the highest level and has played some exceptional football, he is a special talent, much more so than Tevez at this moment in time.

tevez has been south american player of the year 3 times already, when rooney is european player of the year 3 times i might agree with you.....i think you are believing the hype about rooney, hes a brilliant player no doubt about that, but I think he still has a lot to prove yet. Tevez has frightening ability he has done it in south america and i think he will prove the same in europe in the next couple of seasons....if it is in a liverpool shirt it would be brilliant.....

European football attracts the best players from South America - FACT. When Tevez achieves anything like Rooney has done at manure, then I may consider him the better player. There is no "hype" as you put it to believe about Rooney, he is a great player, I can't think of many players in world football at his age who are better than him. Cristiano Ronaldo is about as far as you get. There is no doubt in my mind who is the better player between the two - Rooney is just a step ahead and has more natural talent.

South American player of the year is a brilliant achievement, and I'm not doubting his ability, but Rooney is a better player IMO. To achieve 3 European player of the year awards in a row, you have to be the best of a generation i.e. Cruyff, van basten, Platini, Dis stefano, Beckenbauer - even some of them didn't achieve three in a row. It is significantly easier to achieve 3 South American awards since the best South American players are often already in Europe. Four of the past 10 winners have been Brazilians.

ahhh please, ronaldo and rooney....are u a manc in disguise??? lol
no rooney is a major talent im not doubting that, I just think you are being a little eurocentric when you arent giving the credit to south american players, I am a big boca juniors fan and I watch a lot of their games and when Tevez was with Boca he was incredible with them, he was the same in corinthians in brazil, and he was was the reason why west ham stayed up this year. he was the best player in south america for 3 years so it was inevitable he would end up in Europe like the best south american players do, Rooney just happens to be from Europe so he is there already, Tevez is more skilful than rooney and has the ability to be one of the best players in european football the same as he proved to be in South America from 2003 to 2006.
As for ronaldo? .........I just dont like him and I think he is overrated........ but thats just my opinion for what it is worth.

I can understand why you hate Manure, but to be unable to judge their players on footballing ability alone is very closed minded.

Unfotunately - whether you can admit it or not, they have some class players.  The sort of players we need.

Tevez would be an ideal player for us.  Will he come?? Money and a plethora of argentinians at Inter may prove otherwise IMO.

To get a player of that stature would be a major coup, but I can't see it happening.  Bent and Youssi are our level really, eh?  Once we've got a Premier League then we have a far better chance of getting a Tevez or an Eto until then we can only dream I think!!

closed minded??? read my post, i acknowledged rooney being a good talent, I dont like ronaldo, i think he is a one trick pony, I dont rate the guy, never did, and its not based on who he plays with.... There are plenty of utd players i rate or rated highly and some liverpool players that I dont or didnt....so read my post and think before you type....
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Postby destro » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:46 pm

I don't think that Parry's involvement in the Sheff Utd farce would have any bearing whatsoever on whether Tevez  signed for us or not, since West Ham don't have a say in where he ends up and don't own his contract it wouldn't matter one bit what they said.

IMO Parry should be concentrating on Liverpool Football Club and not getting involved in anything else
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:03 pm

destro wrote:IMO Parry should be concentrating on Liverpool Football Club and not getting involved in anything else

I'd agree with that, but I would also say that Tevez has a contract with West Ham until 2010, since we don't know the intricacies of the agreement we don't know whether West Ham would have a say in where he goes or not - although there is likely to be some kind of veto on MSI's part that enables them to get out of it.
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Postby crillylfc » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:10 pm

suck me off babu!!
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Postby Pedro Maradona » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:29 am

mastercall wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
Brookside wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
john craig wrote:Rooney's more proven than Tevez, not necessarily better.  Very similar players.  Tevez has done exceptionally well.  It took him half a season to adapt to English football and since then he's never looked back.  He has brilliant technical ability and this will only become more obvious playing at a bigger club with better players.

Rooney is more proven, IMO he is a better player than Tevez. He has achieved at the highest level and has played some exceptional football, he is a special talent, much more so than Tevez at this moment in time.

tevez has been south american player of the year 3 times already, when rooney is european player of the year 3 times i might agree with you.....i think you are believing the hype about rooney, hes a brilliant player no doubt about that, but I think he still has a lot to prove yet. Tevez has frightening ability he has done it in south america and i think he will prove the same in europe in the next couple of seasons....if it is in a liverpool shirt it would be brilliant.....

European football attracts the best players from South America - FACT. When Tevez achieves anything like Rooney has done at manure, then I may consider him the better player. There is no "hype" as you put it to believe about Rooney, he is a great player, I can't think of many players in world football at his age who are better than him. Cristiano Ronaldo is about as far as you get. There is no doubt in my mind who is the better player between the two - Rooney is just a step ahead and has more natural talent.

South American player of the year is a brilliant achievement, and I'm not doubting his ability, but Rooney is a better player IMO. To achieve 3 European player of the year awards in a row, you have to be the best of a generation i.e. Cruyff, van basten, Platini, Dis stefano, Beckenbauer - even some of them didn't achieve three in a row. It is significantly easier to achieve 3 South American awards since the best South American players are often already in Europe. Four of the past 10 winners have been Brazilians.

ahhh please, ronaldo and rooney....are u a manc in disguise??? lol
no rooney is a major talent im not doubting that, I just think you are being a little eurocentric when you arent giving the credit to south american players, I am a big boca juniors fan and I watch a lot of their games and when Tevez was with Boca he was incredible with them, he was the same in corinthians in brazil, and he was was the reason why west ham stayed up this year. he was the best player in south america for 3 years so it was inevitable he would end up in Europe like the best south american players do, Rooney just happens to be from Europe so he is there already, Tevez is more skilful than rooney and has the ability to be one of the best players in european football the same as he proved to be in South America from 2003 to 2006.
As for ronaldo? .........I just dont like him and I think he is overrated........ but thats just my opinion for what it is worth.

I can understand why you hate Manure, but to be unable to judge their players on footballing ability alone is very closed minded.

Unfotunately - whether you can admit it or not, they have some class players.  The sort of players we need.

Tevez would be an ideal player for us.  Will he come?? Money and a plethora of argentinians at Inter may prove otherwise IMO.

To get a player of that stature would be a major coup, but I can't see it happening.  Bent and Youssi are our level really, eh?  Once we've got a Premier League then we have a far better chance of getting a Tevez or an Eto until then we can only dream I think!!

closed minded??? read my post, i acknowledged rooney being a good talent, I dont like ronaldo, i think he is a one trick pony, I dont rate the guy, never did, and its not based on who he plays with.... There are plenty of utd players i rate or rated highly and some liverpool players that I dont or didnt....so read my post and think before you type....

Ronaldo's a one trick pony? Hell, even I know that he's good and deserves some praise. He's done great this season and he would be a signing we would part with our left hands for.

So far, I see quality there. Ronaldo, Rooney, Nani, Hargreaves, Carrick, even Anderson. They're signing talent and :censored: the part about them not integrated into the team yet. They are talent and should be quality nevertheless.

And Parry should get his :censored: out of the clouds and stop with the Blades issue. It's none of our business.

I agree with most everyone here that he should concentrate on Liverpool and no one else at this current moment

yeah ronaldo......a flash one trick pony, see how he does next season, the main reason utd won the league wasnt ronaldo it was a solid back four, consistancy and an impressive season from scholes. rooney had a poor season by his standards 
nani and anderson il wait and see...promising players at the moment, nothing more
as for hargreaves, this is the guy who got booed by england fans not so long ago, had a good enough world cup and all of a sudden is the answer to englands prayers...now unless you watch a lot of bundesliga and have seen a lot of hargreaves id wait and see how he does. If he played for canada and not england do you think utd would have bought hm for the amount that they did?
You seem to be in awe of Utd players, I dont know why you are but as utd teams in the last 10 years ths is a very average team at best, they were well shown up in europe, flattered to deceive on the big stage.
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