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Cool Hand Luke wrote:The thing is we are looking for 2 quality strikers to come straight into the first team, players that can offer us more than Fowler, Crouch, Morientes, Cisse, Garcia, Pongolle, Le Tallec or Mellor. We have a very strong squad and are only really looking at getting that final 20% or so. The players that come in now must be players that can go into the first team and help us make a leap to the next level, I just feel that the stage were Rafa bought players that would help shape the squad has gone, we now have a nicely balanced and shapely squad, its only about improving the first team.

From all the players mentioned I would have to say that my favourite would be Kuyt, but I’m saying that without having done significant research on him. I have seen him in a few games only, and from what I can see he has no glaring weakness unlike most of the other strikers we have been linked with. He is tall, good in the air, has enough pace to pose the threat of beating the defender, defiantly has a goal scoring instinct, can play with his back to goal, seems like an intelligent user of the ball and seems to show a good amount of professionalism and desire. For me it is clear to see that he has no major weakness, it is just a matter of whether his attributes are good enough to make him a good Premiership player and worth the £10Mil or so that has been quoted, its up to Rafa to have a close look at him and decide this, I personally haven’t seen enough of him to say that he is worth 10Mil, but I can confidently say that he wouldn’t fail in the Premiership ala Morientes.

kobashi wrote:Kyut is not quick though.  thats the big worry i have.

you need pace upfront and with him and crouch there isnt any.

i have seen kuyt for 2 years now and he is real quality but him and crouch together.  i don't think it would work!  like i have said before, i would rather see kuyt play and crouch dropped.

bigmick wrote:lolol

too easy 

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

0asis wrote:

Cool Hand Luke wrote:For all the people who keep calling for Rafa to get Bellamy, have you forget that he is a crock? He has had so many problems with his knee and I believe he had a couple of operations on them. With his hefty upper body and running style he is likely to suffer injuries in the future as well. Purely from a medical point of view I would stay well clear.

From a footballing point of view, last season was the first team he has got into double figure in the Premiership in terms of league goals, and only the 3rd time he has done so since his career began in 1996, with the other 2 times being for Norwich in the old first division, were he played 36 and scored 13, and played 40 and scored 17, so his goal scoring record isn’t really much better than that of Heskey. Warranted that he does provide a real threat with his roar acceleration and determination, but his overall game is average to be honest.

And from a person point of view, he is an @rsehole outside of football by the sounds of it, and is a w@nker on the field, he has an attitude problem towards his team mates and opposition. Some people in life are just plain kunts, no matter what environment you give them or what help or guidance you to try to bring them under they wont change, for me, Bellamy is just one of life’s w@nkers, I know it’s a big statement to make since I’m not exactly close to him, but it’s a statement I am willing to make anyway.

So for me, it is a big fat NO!

who do you suggest then?

The thing is we are looking for 2 quality strikers to come straight into the first team, players that can offer us more than Fowler, Crouch, Morientes, Cisse, Garcia, Pongolle, Le Tallec or Mellor. We have a very strong squad and are only really looking at getting that final 20% or so. The players that come in now must be players that can go into the first team and help us make a leap to the next level, I just feel that the stage were Rafa bought players that would help shape the squad has gone, we now have a nicely balanced and shapely squad, its only about improving the first team.

From all the players mentioned I would have to say that my favourite would be Kuyt, but I’m saying that without having done significant research on him. I have seen him in a few games only, and from what I can see he has no glaring weakness unlike most of the other strikers we have been linked with. He is tall, good in the air, has enough pace to pose the threat of beating the defender, defiantly has a goal scoring instinct, can play with his back to goal, seems like an intelligent user of the ball and seems to show a good amount of professionalism and desire. For me it is clear to see that he has no major weakness, it is just a matter of whether his attributes are good enough to make him a good Premiership player and worth the £10Mil or so that has been quoted, its up to Rafa to have a close look at him and decide this, I personally haven’t seen enough of him to say that he is worth 10Mil, but I can confidently say that he wouldn’t fail in the Premiership ala Morientes.

Bamaga man wrote:

Andrew Johnson wrote:You can have McFadden for £8m or a straight swap for Cisse:D

I'll tell ya what you can have Traore, no returns. Thanks but there really isnt anyone from Everton that we need. No offence but we want to challenge for the title. 

LiverpoolMadman wrote:I think its you have to think harder ... No matter Cisse have prove to us that he score more than Mori and PC.

But again, if Rafa wanted sell him... he should sell him last season.

Latest news that Lyon willing to pay 8m to Liverpool for Cisse. I have a bad feeling that if Cisse goes to Lyon and maybe in CL, Liverpool will meetup with them and Cisse will prove us wrong again.

Remember that I am the first few ppl who have been telling you all that Mori is NOT suitable for Liverpool last season and should gone to other club before next season starts.

Do you ever give up?

Its quite simple really. Cisse could score 25 goals a season, but the fact is, when he is upfront and not Crouch the ball just keeps coming back at us more often so we end up on the back foot. While Mr 20-goals-a-season is doing very well on a personal level, the team behind them is struggling because Mr 20-goals-a-season isn't holding up the ball or bringing his team mates into play. Instead he is giving the ball away cheaply etc.

Football is about a team not individuals.  Thats not to say a 20 goal a season striker that does play well with his teammates as part of the team wouldn't be an awesome addition but the goals shouldnt be at the expense of the team ethic and results.

LiverpoolMadman wrote:

You really do love Cisse don't you?

No.... I love ppl playing the "right" way. If you are defender , you job is to defend ... and if you are midfield , your job is help defenders and helping strikers .... same goes to striker , and the job is to score goals ..

Looks like you know a bit more about football than Rafa, Sven and just about every other football manager.

Are you available for the Real Madrid job?

Only if Moores and Parry had the sense to go for you instead of that dumb Rafa.

kobashi wrote:Kyut is not quick though.  thats the big worry i have.

you need pace upfront and with him and crouch there isnt any.

i have seen kuyt for 2 years now and he is real quality but him and crouch together.  i don't think it would work!  like i have said before, i would rather see kuyt play and crouch dropped.

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:

Cool Hand Luke wrote:

0asis wrote:

Cool Hand Luke wrote:For all the people who keep calling for Rafa to get Bellamy, have you forget that he is a crock? He has had so many problems with his knee and I believe he had a couple of operations on them. With his hefty upper body and running style he is likely to suffer injuries in the future as well. Purely from a medical point of view I would stay well clear.

From a footballing point of view, last season was the first team he has got into double figure in the Premiership in terms of league goals, and only the 3rd time he has done so since his career began in 1996, with the other 2 times being for Norwich in the old first division, were he played 36 and scored 13, and played 40 and scored 17, so his goal scoring record isn’t really much better than that of Heskey. Warranted that he does provide a real threat with his roar acceleration and determination, but his overall game is average to be honest.

And from a person point of view, he is an @rsehole outside of football by the sounds of it, and is a w@nker on the field, he has an attitude problem towards his team mates and opposition. Some people in life are just plain kunts, no matter what environment you give them or what help or guidance you to try to bring them under they wont change, for me, Bellamy is just one of life’s w@nkers, I know it’s a big statement to make since I’m not exactly close to him, but it’s a statement I am willing to make anyway.

So for me, it is a big fat NO!

who do you suggest then?

The thing is we are looking for 2 quality strikers to come straight into the first team, players that can offer us more than Fowler, Crouch, Morientes, Cisse, Garcia, Pongolle, Le Tallec or Mellor. We have a very strong squad and are only really looking at getting that final 20% or so. The players that come in now must be players that can go into the first team and help us make a leap to the next level, I just feel that the stage were Rafa bought players that would help shape the squad has gone, we now have a nicely balanced and shapely squad, its only about improving the first team.

From all the players mentioned I would have to say that my favourite would be Kuyt, but I’m saying that without having done significant research on him. I have seen him in a few games only, and from what I can see he has no glaring weakness unlike most of the other strikers we have been linked with. He is tall, good in the air, has enough pace to pose the threat of beating the defender, defiantly has a goal scoring instinct, can play with his back to goal, seems like an intelligent user of the ball and seems to show a good amount of professionalism and desire. For me it is clear to see that he has no major weakness, it is just a matter of whether his attributes are good enough to make him a good Premiership player and worth the £10Mil or so that has been quoted, its up to Rafa to have a close look at him and decide this, I personally haven’t seen enough of him to say that he is worth 10Mil, but I can confidently say that he wouldn’t fail in the Premiership ala Morientes.

i havent seen much of kuyt but these days i`m wary of these foreigners earning rave reviews abroad.
kezman played in the dutch league`s and broke van nistelrooys dutch goalscoring records, he was supposed to be the best striker to come out of the dutch league`s in a generation but couldnt hack it in the prem.
cisse was the same, i remember before he signed people were waxing lyrical about him.
one thing about bellamy, you know he`s spent most of his career in england so the league holds no shocks for him.
to be honest mate with our budget being tight i`m not sure who to go for, but another big name foreigner who turns out to be a major dissapointment like cisse or morientes would be a blow to the club.
have we got the money to gamble? because thats what signing any foreigner who hasnt played in the prem is.