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by **JBG** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:57 pm

I would agree with Mick and Wolly, although perhaps I would estimate that there was a tiny bit more daylight between us and Chelsea than the two lads credit us.

We certainly were the more positive team, but Chelsea really set their stall out to get a draw or even a sneaky win, and if truth be told, we only managed a couple of have chances.

Chelsea played the way Gerrard Houllier's Liverpool played when we went to places like Barcelona under Houllier.

Chelsea have a bit of a mental complex about Liverpool. We are probably the only team in Europe that currently unnerve Chelsea. Thats an amazing thing.

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:10 pm

(once again I don't think either were stonewall penalties but both have been given many times)

Mick I think thats :censored:

mate.

Both of them where blatent. Gallas's hand was up around Cisse's shoulders, it wasn't by his side and secondly not only was Sami brought down when through on goal, he was brought down from behind.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:31 pm

If Im honest, I think the handball was accidental, But I've seen them given plenty of times, also the reason his hand was thier anyway was because he was pulling someones shirt.

Double wammy!!!

We outplayed them, but I would have liked to have seen more chance around the goal mouth. On a number of occasions the ball was crossed with no-one running onto the ball. (Hammans little dribble and Stevies free kicks mainly).

But you have to say that is probably the performance of the season. For the first time Peter Crouch had players around him, which hasn't happened in the league yet this year which made us a much stonger offensive unit.

Here are my scores for the players..

Reina - 7.5 - made one howler for the corner, but apart from that was brilliant
Finnan 7 - Solid wihthout being amazin
Carragher - 8 - Normal commited performance
Hypia - 7.5 - May be slow but reads the game brilliantly and causes problems in there penalty box
Traore - 6 - Tackled well BUT distribution appauling, gave the ball away all night
Cisse - 5 - Didn't get involved
Alonso - 7.5 - Picked the pockets of their world class wingers everytime, distribution not quite up to his normal exceptional standard
Gerrard - 7.5 - In and out.. when he was in the game brilliant
Garcia - 5 - Givesd the ball away too many times, but did give Crouch options
Hamman - 8 - The guy is still world class, Love seeing him play
Crouch - 7.5 -Won nearly everything and kept hold of possiosn well, becoming a very valuable player to Liverpool but needs to score goals

by **babu** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:33 pm

bigmick wrote:I thought we definately shaded it last night. Sorry I can't go along with some of the lads on here who say we "outclassed" them and all, but we were definately the better team in my totally honest opinion. Are we as good a team as them? Probably not over the course of the season. Have we got as good a squad as them? Absolutely nowhere near to be fair.
So why is it when they are the invincibles, the best team in the country, the team that is so much better than everybody else that the season is already over and we can get the better of them that we don't get any credit in the media? That's three games now and counting since they've scored a goal against our defence. That's a defence containing the much maligned Djimi Traore. "It's 'cos we never had any width mate. Duff and Robben weren't on from the start, it would've been different then".
Well they were on from the start last night and where were they? Chelsea had a full strength team out and we more than matched them. Either the Hyppia penalty claim or the handball could easily have been given (once again I don't think either were stonewall penalties but both have been given many times) and I thought we deserved to win.
If Mourhinho is the "special one" what does that make Rafa then? Peter Crouch anyone? "Seven million mate, you're 'avin a laugh aint ya?" Makes Drogba at 24 mill' start to look a shade pricey if you ask me.

Some nice points Bigmick, agree with a lot and would love ChelseaForever to comment on some of it. As for the media attention (credit) i am not so sure. I spent an amusing lunch hour today on a CFC forum and they where complaining about the fact that the media will not report anything bad about 'their darling LFC'.

I don't live in the UK anymore and don't have any close friends that do, so i can't judge whether this is justified. But over here (malaysia) there is only one team that gets treated better (than us, IMO) in the press, and that is the Manshites.

chelski wankers and LFC fans can't be both right can they?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:27 pm

Feck 'em. All the press cack suits us down to the ground. Think about it;if the papers start saying "oooh, LFC are fantastic, they made Sh*tski look rubbish", then we'll get an influx of glory hunters from the Home Counties, etc. We've got enough plastic support robbing tickets off true fans as it is. I say "thanks" tabloid t*ssers. You're making it slightly easier for me to get tickets to the matches now!

by **wrighty (not mark!)** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:39 pm

One of the members made a great point, the same thing I was moaning about initially. And that was the fact that Alonso got booked on his first offence while Carvalho made about 7 offences!unbelieveable!

by **red37** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:42 pm

wrighty (not mark!) wrote:One of the members made a great point, the same thing I was moaning about initially. And that was the fact that Alonso got booked on his first offence while Carvalho made about 7 offences!unbelieveable!
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yeah, and at the time i thought i heard gray mutter something about ..........."cheating"

?

what about gudjohnsen getting ABSOLUTELY POLE-AXED at the library? and that awful wily spanish man only missing the next match ffs!

by **red37** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:45 pm

ha btw, anyone else notice maureen sliding up the steps after half-time....wait for it...'whispering to the ref' :laugh:

rafa! get im on report! :laugh:

by **wrighty (not mark!)** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:47 pm

red37 wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) wrote:One of the members made a great point, the same thing I was moaning about initially. And that was the fact that Alonso got booked on his first offence while Carvalho made about 7 offences!unbelieveable!
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yeah, and at the time i thought i heard gray mutter something about ..........."cheating" ? ?

what about gudjohnsen getting ABSOLUTELY POLE-AXED at the library? and that awful wily spanish man only missing the next match ffs!

Oh yea, we LFC fans dont have a short-memory.2 pens that should have been and 2 points lost most definately.

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:54 pm

Lando you're posts are wierd man.

Do you have a split personality?

Class!!

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:56 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Lando you're posts are wierd man.

Do you have a split personality?

Class!!

Quite possibly, I'll ask myself when I get in. :upside:

by **Judge** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:59 pm

quick mrs lando, pauls home...............fumble fumble...........out of the window judge goes

by **Fowler_E7** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:10 pm

JBG wrote:Chelsea have a bit of a mental complex about Liverpool. We are probably the only team in Europe that currently unnerve Chelsea. Thats an amazing thing.

agree with that, i think we are probably the only team in England that Chelsea are weary off, when the play Man Utd and Arsenal they look far more positive, hopefully this a good omen for the future.

by **Fowler_E7** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:12 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
(once again I don't think either were stonewall penalties but both have been given many times)

Mick I think thats mate.

Both of them where blatent. Gallas's hand was up around Cisse's shoulders, it wasn't by his side and secondly not only was Sami brought down when through on goal, he was brought down from behind.

the two incidents with Hyppia and Gallas were both stonewall penalties, Drogba simply kicked sammi's leg from behind with a very rash challenge, and Gallas clearly moved his arm towards the ball, at no point did he try to move his arm out of the way, a blatant deliberate hand ball.

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:17 pm

It doesn't matter weather its accidental or deliberate.

The rule states controlling the ball with your hand.

If it hits you're hand/arm its a pentaly against. Thats that. I don't give a :censored:

weather the balls wacked at their hand from two yards, if it hits your hand, thats that.

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