Liverpool FC Forum

bunglemark2 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:37 pm wrote:

redshade » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:26 pm wrote:Bungle you are a trouble maker mate

Au contraire mate....just jovial banter.

Lallana the majority of footballers can put together a few impressive videos. And yes there is no denying Henderson has skill and ability but my problem is that we see very little of it which is why I don’t rate him very highly. Do you honestly think he would be of any interest to any of the top major European teams? Klopp maybe a fan but there again he persisted with the likes of Moreno, Mignolet and Karius, to name but a few, for far too long !! Mignolet could produce a decent You Tube video if you leave out all the mistakes and the same could be said of Karius and Moreno !! Watch Henderson closely and 95% of his passes are either backwards or sideways. Virtually none of them are designed to split a defence. I accept that he is probably under instruction and Klopp obviously realises that he has got limitations. Why is he left out of the team so often if he is such an integral part?

We can definitely agree on one thing: MARMITE 

devaney » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:53 am wrote:Lallana the majority of footballers can put together a few impressive videos. And yes there is no denying Henderson has skill and ability but my problem is that we see very little of it which is why I don’t rate him very highly. Do you honestly think he would be of any interest to any of the top major European teams? Klopp maybe a fan but there again he persisted with the likes of Moreno, Mignolet and Karius, to name but a few, for far too long !! Mignolet could produce a decent You Tube video if you leave out all the mistakes and the same could be said of Karius and Moreno !! Watch Henderson closely and 95% of his passes are either backwards or sideways. Virtually none of them are designed to split a defence. I accept that he is probably under instruction and Klopp obviously realises that he has got limitations. Why is he left out of the team so often if he is such an integral part?

We can definitely agree on one thing: MARMITE 

Is he really left out of the team that often ? He always comes in for the big games and in fact most games when fit

One of those videos was his whole highlights from the Man City match - it disproves myths like “95%” of his passes are backwards or sideways , there is also plenty of stats out there that disprove that myth as well, and plenty of them “split the defence”

So what if “major European clubs” don’t want him - no one has said that the likes of Barce are after him but then that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player who is important to the team

Henderson is sh!te.

Reg - I was trying (probably failed) to be polite  Out of interest how did you come to that conclusion? Was it anything to do with all the years he has been an integral part of the team and we have won sweet fk all I just don't think he is fit for purpose if we really are determined to win major trophies. How many Klopp finals has he figured in that we have lost?

Lallana these are just for you and Henderson captained the three finals and the debacle against Napoli - ENJOY !!

This was one of them: https://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/11/j ... a-shocker/

This was another and guess who had the lowest rating other than Salah who went off injured early in the game: https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... er-ratings

And another and once again Henderson was nearly the lowest rated player: https://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/02/l ... cup-final/

Maybe this one is a reason we won't get to a final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9s2fN-e10

devaney » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:48 am wrote:Reg - I was trying (probably failed) to be polite  Out of interest how did you come to that conclusion? Was it anything to do with all the years he has been an integral part of the team and we have won sweet fk all I just don't think he is fit for purpose if we really are determined to win major trophies. How many Klopp finals has he figured in that we have lost?

Lallana these are just for you and Henderson captained the three finals and the debacle against Napoli - ENJOY !!

This was one of them: https://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/11/j ... a-shocker/

This was another and guess who had the lowest rating other than Salah who went off injured early in the game: https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... er-ratings

And another and once again Henderson was nearly the lowest rated player: https://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/02/l ... cup-final/

Maybe this one is a reason we won't get to a final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9s2fN-e10

So your response is player ratings ? That’s just someone’s opinion

I notice in those that twice Firmino was below Henderson ?

I notice you put up the Seville match - how about the Man City KO match when we won 3 nil and Henderson scored the third ?

Henderson has won a trophy at the club - but judging players on what a team wins or loses never gives a full picture - there are plenty of players who didn’t win at the club. Torres won nothing with Liverpool amongst many others.

I’m guessing you didn’t even watch any of the countless videos of actual football play ( as opposed to match reports and player ratings )

Were never going to agree are we mate.I did say finals and yes he did well against City.  If you think that the reports are unreasonable then that is your prerogative. You won't find many people giving Henderson much credit for his performances in either of the two European finals.

Lets give it a rest.

Enjoy tonight. I think it will be one for disappearing finger nails.

The manager obviously hasnt read my posts.
OK Jurgen, prove me wrong...

If anyone wants to know why Klopp keeps picking Henderson just watch that second half - just superb - tackles , passes , carrying the ball , tracking , calmness - everything you want from the DM - could hear shouting at players and directing the play. Got to build from that now

He had a good game Indeed.

Yep, had a good game today. Seems he's at his best when we're going straight at teams, playing that heavy metal, high tempo stuff.

Hendo did alright in the second half but apart from Mané he got the lowest Express player rating with a 7 which says a lot for the team performance. Anyway not too fussed about captain fantastic tonight   

Lallana in Pyjamas » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:08 pm wrote:If anyone wants to know why Klopp keeps picking Henderson just watch that second half - just superb - tackles , passes , carrying the ball , tracking , calmness - everything you want from the DM - could hear shouting at players and directing the play. Got to build from that now

ffs get a room you 2...All the team was brilliant but if i had to pick the least impressive it will be Hendo ,Mane and Bobby...Fabinho could and should easily take his role will do the same and more.

only me » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:55 pm wrote:

Lallana in Pyjamas » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:08 pm wrote:If anyone wants to know why Klopp keeps picking Henderson just watch that second half - just superb - tackles , passes , carrying the ball , tracking , calmness - everything you want from the DM - could hear shouting at players and directing the play. Got to build from that now

ffs get a room you 2...All the team was brilliant but if i had to pick the least impressive it will be Hendo ,Mane and Bobby...Fabinho could and should easily take his role will do the same and more.

Bit of a classic that coming from you 

After every fucking game we have to expect to hear Lallana defending/praising his boyfriend Hendo...he is a decent player no argument here but we could get much better to take his shirt. He is of no interest to any of the Top 6 in PL nor if he will ever interest any of the big teams in Europe, so that's probably tells you how good he is.

Anyway, this is getting boring for me now I'll leave you guys to your man crush