Ben Patrick » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:57 am wrote:I agree with you 7_Kewell
I am ok with Lambert being the third choice and think he will chip in with goals when he plays.
But I wouldnt fancy him starting regulaly if Sturridge was injured.
He doesnt appear to have the pace or running power to play on his own up top.
I think he would probably do a lot better if we played a diamond and 2 up.
For Southampton last season he dropped off and Rodriguez was the player that was making the runs to get in behind from what I saw of them.
Ben Patrick » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:57 am wrote:No mate, what I mean was he was going once we where offered 75 million when he was suspended for 4 months.
We would have had to replace him regardless. If we waited to accept Barcelonas offer while we signed a striker in the meantime we would have paid Suarez almost a million in wages for doing nothing.
Prices seem to be inflated for everyone though to be fair.
Everton just paid 28 for Lukaku.
Bonys release clause is supposed to be 19 million pounds. But various papers are reporting that Swansea are willing to listen to lower offers as the lad wants out.
He cost them 12 million so about 15 might do it.
I'd have him for that personally.
eds » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:43 pm wrote:Ben Patrick » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:57 am wrote:No mate, what I mean was he was going once we where offered 75 million when he was suspended for 4 months.
We would have had to replace him regardless. If we waited to accept Barcelonas offer while we signed a striker in the meantime we would have paid Suarez almost a million in wages for doing nothing.
Prices seem to be inflated for everyone though to be fair.
Everton just paid 28 for Lukaku.
Bonys release clause is supposed to be 19 million pounds. But various papers are reporting that Swansea are willing to listen to lower offers as the lad wants out.
He cost them 12 million so about 15 might do it.
I'd have him for that personally.
I guess we will agree to disagree.
In the grand scheme of things if we verbally agree to sell a player to another club for 75m but tell them we wont finalise anything until we get an adequate replacement, then personally I think Suarez's wages, whatever they are are irrelevant.
In my eyes the risk of having to pay him whatever his salary was (for a few weeks) doesn't come close to the risk or uncertainty of having to sign a striker before the end of August.
The whole point of finding a replacement before we sold him to Barcelona was to ensure no one knew we were in the market to buy a forward to replace Suarez, now that the cat is out of the bag clubs will still try and stitch us up even more.
And I really hope we can bring in a better player than Wilfried f**king Bony.......
devaney » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:47 pm wrote:eds » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:43 pm wrote:Ben Patrick » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:57 am wrote:No mate, what I mean was he was going once we where offered 75 million when he was suspended for 4 months.
We would have had to replace him regardless. If we waited to accept Barcelonas offer while we signed a striker in the meantime we would have paid Suarez almost a million in wages for doing nothing.
Prices seem to be inflated for everyone though to be fair.
Everton just paid 28 for Lukaku.
Bonys release clause is supposed to be 19 million pounds. But various papers are reporting that Swansea are willing to listen to lower offers as the lad wants out.
He cost them 12 million so about 15 might do it.
I'd have him for that personally.
I guess we will agree to disagree.
In the grand scheme of things if we verbally agree to sell a player to another club for 75m but tell them we wont finalise anything until we get an adequate replacement, then personally I think Suarez's wages, whatever they are are irrelevant.
In my eyes the risk of having to pay him whatever his salary was (for a few weeks) doesn't come close to the risk or uncertainty of having to sign a striker before the end of August.
The whole point of finding a replacement before we sold him to Barcelona was to ensure no one knew we were in the market to buy a forward to replace Suarez, now that the cat is out of the bag clubs will still try and stitch us up even more.
And I really hope we can bring in a better player than Wilfried f**king Bony.......
Eds mate give the sum of £75m and the fact that absolutely nobody came in for Suarez apart from Barca a little more thought. Football is a business it's not a game of poker. Due to Suarez's idiotic behaviour in the world cup his price probably went down by as much as £25m. He had his best ever season at the age of 26. He played some fantastic football and he will be missed. He then bites another player for the third time. He is 28 in January. Unfortunately, as much as I love Luis, he is one slice short of a full loaf at times on a football pitch. It is all very well thinking we held all the aces but I don't think that assumption is correct. We had the opportunity to get a very high price for a player who is regarded by many as damaged goods. Yes we could have played hard ball and demanded that Luis stays until a suitable replacement is found but that could have very easily ended in tears as well. Luis stays and has a poor season and ends it with bite number four. What price would you put on his head faced with that scenario. His price increased by £35m due to a good season and it could have been a lot more without the bite. His price could fall by just as much and maybe more if his first season at Barca doesn't work out. Unlikely I admit but possible and for me I don't think Ayres or the owners were in any mood to give up the money considering the way Luis behaved at the end of the last two seasons. Luis could have been a legend instead he will be remembered as a player who simply used Liverpool FC as a stepping stone.
devaney » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 am wrote: Regardless of who is right and who is wrong the key point that we agree on is that no other club for whatever reason was going to stump up a massive chunk of wonga for Luis so we had very little option other than to sell to Barca or risk further problems as a result of Luis's questionable behaviour.
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