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I wonder if at the moment skrtel played that backpass he was think of how much cash hes gonna make on his new deal, instead of where he was kicking!!
I would, at 70,000 a. Week.

Yes it was a terrible back pass.  I fault the formation and tactics beofre the player in this case.  Really.  Are we to expect Matin Skrtel to all of a sudden become a smooth on the ball playing CB?  There is no reason at all that he should have been on the ball with two players closing down on him so isolated. 

This is my only problem with Rodgers' system so far.  The full backs press way too high up the pitch when we don't have sustained possesion.  It's led to three of the 5 goals we've allowed so far this season.

We'll be fine in the long run with Rodgers' formation and we might have won today had Borini taken his glorious chance early in the first-half, but that's all ifs and buts at the end of the day.

What I don't like is the passing it back to the keeper, it's always a risk, especially when a player panics like Skrtel did today, sometimes a defender will need to put the ball into row Z. Rodgers will need to acknowledge this, because I can see this happening again this season.

The Good Yank » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:45 pm wrote:Yes it was a terrible back pass.  I fault the formation and tactics beofre the player in this case.  Really.  Are we to expect Matin Skrtel to all of a sudden become a smooth on the ball playing CB?  There is no reason at all that he should have been on the ball with two players closing down on him so isolated. 

This is my only problem with Rodgers' system so far.  The full backs press way too high up the pitch when we don't have sustained possesion.  It's led to three of the 5 goals we've allowed so far this season.

Agreed

The Good Yank » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:45 pm wrote:Yes it was a terrible back pass.  I fault the formation and tactics beofre the player in this case.  Really.  Are we to expect Matin Skrtel to all of a sudden become a smooth on the ball playing CB?  There is no reason at all that he should have been on the ball with two players closing down on him so isolated. 

This is my only problem with Rodgers' system so far.  The full backs press way too high up the pitch when we don't have sustained possesion.  It's led to three of the 5 goals we've allowed so far this season.

Rodgers did comment that there was no other player willing to recieve the pass the moment Skrtel dwelled on it, he wants his players to show up more to ease the pressure from their teammate

Rodger's system is fine, what Skrtel should have done is just lump the ball into row Z. Sometimes you cannot pass your way out of trouble, you have to just lump it forwards, especially at such a late stage in the game. It's all about making the right decision at the right time and Skrtel under pressure made the wrong decision, it happens. I just hope he learns from it.

Boxscarf » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:52 pm wrote:Rodger's system is fine, what Skrtel should have done is just lump the ball into row Z. Sometimes you cannot pass your way out of trouble, you have to just lump it forwards, especially at such a late stage in the game. It's all about making the right decision at the right time and Skrtel under pressure made the wrong decision, it happens. I just hope he learns from it.

Thank you, O Wise One....

...as it happens I think you're right....

bunglemark2 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:55 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:52 pm wrote:Rodger's system is fine, what Skrtel should have done is just lump the ball into row Z. Sometimes you cannot pass your way out of trouble, you have to just lump it forwards, especially at such a late stage in the game. It's all about making the right decision at the right time and Skrtel under pressure made the wrong decision, it happens. I just hope he learns from it.

Thank you, O Wise One....

...as it happens I think you're right....

I agree with boxscarf here. Rogers wants us to play out from the back and that's a good thing. But I honestly dont think Rogers expects them to play out of defence 100% of the time.

Skrtel is an internaltional profesional footballer playing for liverpool in the premier league - he really should be good enough to make a decision when is the right time to play it out and when is the right time to clear it and when it is the right time to lump it upfield.

Rogers likes them to play it out of defence but he doesn't like them to play backpasses without looking. IMO that goal wasn't the fault of Rogers ethos, more a lapse of concentation from skrtel

That makes no sense... He passed it back because he thought he could safely pass it back.  If we just kick the ball into row z every time one of our players feels safe making a pass then we'd never actually play football, and I promise you we would get relegated because we'd never actually score any goals.

It was a mistake, one that we knew would happen, and personally I won't blame anybody for it.

ethanr » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:12 pm wrote:That makes no sense... He passed it back because he thought he could safely pass it back.  If we just kick the ball into row z every time one of our players feels safe making a pass then we'd never actually play football, and I promise you we would get relegated because we'd never actually score any goals.

It was a mistake, one that we knew would happen, and personally I won't blame anybody for it.

I actually blame Skrtel, with his experience he should know that HE NEVER should play a blind pass, if he felt under pressure and had no one next to him give a pass then just hit high or put it into row z!

he passed back without looking up to see if the backpass was on. it was a basic error but they happen, especially early on in the season.
even the best players f**k up, alan hansen did the same thing in the 1978 european cup final but phil thompson got back to clear the ball of the line.
i thought in terms of his general defending he was getting somewhere near back to his best.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:33 pm wrote:he passed back without looking up to see if the backpass was on. it was a basic error but they happen, especially early on in the season.
even the best players f**k up, alan hansen did the same thing in the 1978 european cup final but phil thompson got back to clear the ball of the line.
i thought in terms of his general defending he was getting somewhere near back to his best.

Gerrard? remember when he passed it back to Thierry Henry? or to Drogba?

It happens, players will learn from their mistakes and move on

How careless do you have to be, to not,even lift your head and see where your keeper is.??

That is schoolboy errors

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:33 pm wrote:he passed back without looking up to see if the backpass was on. it was a basic error but they happen, especially early on in the season.
even the best players f**k up, alan hansen did the same thing in the 1978 european cup final but phil thompson got back to clear the ball of the line.
i thought in terms of his general defending he was getting somewhere near back to his best.

lol lost count of how many times alan hansen did the same thing, always being pulled up on MOTD

Yes he did make a mistake, but he also scored with an absolutely thumping header ! When was the last time you saw one of our central defenders do that?