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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun May 20, 2012 2:13 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 pm wrote:Liverpool: The King is dead. Long live the Brand?

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/liverpool-the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-brand/?

Over the last ten days, football has delighted us with some of the most remarkable moments sport has to offer. Recent events have invoked the strongest of our emotions be it the euphoria of Manchester City’s astoundingly tense title victory, the heartbreaking travesty of a referee dictated relegation for Bolton or the disappointing removal of a king from his Anfield throne. We have been invigorated by football’s most enthralling aspects, its unpredictability and versatility to entertain, but our experiences have equally been marred by the game’s most deplorable of features and I fear the latter holds greater consequence. The dismissal of Kenny Dalglish is truly a travesty of the highest order, emphasising both the rapidity with which the core values of football can be thrown aside and the more demoralising revelation that fans have accepted this cycle as rational.

The sport currently operates in a climate of contradiction peddled by club spokesmen and media outlets alike. You will often hear phrases akin to, “building for the future” or “a complete rebuilding of the squad is needed” yet the actions of these institutions and the fickleness of mind shown by observers who bandy around such comments, undermine their own claims. The core principle of a long-term plan is an acknowledgement that time will be given for the process to develop. The interim period between start and completion, may produce varying results not always positive, that must be taken in light of a greater purpose. Stability is a necessity and it is unfortunately the sparsest resource in European football. The current system allots time to managers and staff while their team is winning and they are shown the door when results turn. It is a childish, thoughtless, reaction, founded upon a need for instant gratification that flies in the face of the concepts they so sincerely preach. Their behaviour revolves around a black and white perception of success that is not applicable in reality with every rival team setting equal expectations. Not everyone can win the league in the same season.

With Kenny Dalglish, the whole situation is heart-achingly demoralising. It has reached the point at which fans were criticised for their defence of Dalglish on-account of being too sentimental! This is when my hope for the future of the sport begins to wane, for is not the whole game founded upon the principle of sentimentality? Do we not diligently support our team through thick ‘n’ thin based upon such ideals of comradeship, town heritage and sense of community? Do we not spoil our players in affection and praise until that inevitable moment of their shift to a rival only to swathe them in scorn and vitriol? Caretakers strolling in and deciding what is “best for the club” while claiming a deep-rooted affiliation simply through the command of riches few others can match, shall never understand the ‘Liver Bird’ spirit embodied by Dalglish.

Unflinching corporate logic was the tool used to assess and accordingly dismiss Kenny Dalglish from office. This same logic would have had us believe that the appointment of a manager previously fired for struggling to stave off relegation, could never lead a team to an FA Cup victory and a Champions League final. It would have assured us both Messi and Ronaldo would have scored from the penalty spot in their respective semi-finals and that Manchester City would not have overturned a two goal deficit in injury time to give us the greatest climax to a Premier League season in history. Football follows its own brand of surreal logic and all that we can ask for is that our support is reciprocated through the commitment of those who represent our club.

Liverpool FC has always prided itself in keeping its matters ‘in house’, providing time for its managers and supporting their position until it became truly untenable. Kenny Dalglish is a paragon of these values and for a time, there was serenity in watching ‘The Reds’ play, whether in victory or defeat, knowing that the club was in the hands of one of us. This is no longer the case and in a matter of days the club has had its most cherished features, those traits that separated it from many of the modern era, stripped away and exposed to the onslaught of sports capitalism. I wish every success upon the new manager whoever he may be and will follow those ‘Red Men’ as avidly as I ever have, but no matter what success may lie in our future it will never be as sweet as it would have been with our King.

Goes a small way to explaining the hurt felt by a legends departure. :down:


It is now clear that "The King" was a pawn
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Postby lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 6:40 pm

andy_g » Sat May 19, 2012 12:52 pm wrote:lakes, you repeated some of those courses 3 or 4 times. and you missed out the one about believing everything you read on twitter.

lol mate it was a copy from my course list , some are oneday work shops and some are full courses over weeks.


as for twitter, why not take what is posted on there as the truth when its posted by the likes of Kennys daughter and players from out club.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Sun May 20, 2012 6:42 pm

lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 5:40 pm wrote:
andy_g » Sat May 19, 2012 12:52 pm wrote:lakes, you repeated some of those courses 3 or 4 times. and you missed out the one about believing everything you read on twitter.

lol mate it was a copy from my course list , some are oneday work shops and some are full courses over weeks.


as for twitter, why not take what is posted on there as the truth when its posted by the likes of Kennys daughter and players from out club.


You don't ever post the sources though
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun May 20, 2012 6:49 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 pm wrote:Liverpool: The King is dead. Long live the Brand?

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/liverpool-the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-brand/?

Over the last ten days, football has delighted us with some of the most remarkable moments sport has to offer. Recent events have invoked the strongest of our emotions be it the euphoria of Manchester City’s astoundingly tense title victory, the heartbreaking travesty of a referee dictated relegation for Bolton or the disappointing removal of a king from his Anfield throne. We have been invigorated by football’s most enthralling aspects, its unpredictability and versatility to entertain, but our experiences have equally been marred by the game’s most deplorable of features and I fear the latter holds greater consequence. The dismissal of Kenny Dalglish is truly a travesty of the highest order, emphasising both the rapidity with which the core values of football can be thrown aside and the more demoralising revelation that fans have accepted this cycle as rational.

The sport currently operates in a climate of contradiction peddled by club spokesmen and media outlets alike. You will often hear phrases akin to, “building for the future” or “a complete rebuilding of the squad is needed” yet the actions of these institutions and the fickleness of mind shown by observers who bandy around such comments, undermine their own claims. The core principle of a long-term plan is an acknowledgement that time will be given for the process to develop. The interim period between start and completion, may produce varying results not always positive, that must be taken in light of a greater purpose. Stability is a necessity and it is unfortunately the sparsest resource in European football. The current system allots time to managers and staff while their team is winning and they are shown the door when results turn. It is a childish, thoughtless, reaction, founded upon a need for instant gratification that flies in the face of the concepts they so sincerely preach. Their behaviour revolves around a black and white perception of success that is not applicable in reality with every rival team setting equal expectations. Not everyone can win the league in the same season.

With Kenny Dalglish, the whole situation is heart-achingly demoralising. It has reached the point at which fans were criticised for their defence of Dalglish on-account of being too sentimental! This is when my hope for the future of the sport begins to wane, for is not the whole game founded upon the principle of sentimentality? Do we not diligently support our team through thick ‘n’ thin based upon such ideals of comradeship, town heritage and sense of community? Do we not spoil our players in affection and praise until that inevitable moment of their shift to a rival only to swathe them in scorn and vitriol? Caretakers strolling in and deciding what is “best for the club” while claiming a deep-rooted affiliation simply through the command of riches few others can match, shall never understand the ‘Liver Bird’ spirit embodied by Dalglish.

Unflinching corporate logic was the tool used to assess and accordingly dismiss Kenny Dalglish from office. This same logic would have had us believe that the appointment of a manager previously fired for struggling to stave off relegation, could never lead a team to an FA Cup victory and a Champions League final. It would have assured us both Messi and Ronaldo would have scored from the penalty spot in their respective semi-finals and that Manchester City would not have overturned a two goal deficit in injury time to give us the greatest climax to a Premier League season in history. Football follows its own brand of surreal logic and all that we can ask for is that our support is reciprocated through the commitment of those who represent our club.

Liverpool FC has always prided itself in keeping its matters ‘in house’, providing time for its managers and supporting their position until it became truly untenable. Kenny Dalglish is a paragon of these values and for a time, there was serenity in watching ‘The Reds’ play, whether in victory or defeat, knowing that the club was in the hands of one of us. This is no longer the case and in a matter of days the club has had its most cherished features, those traits that separated it from many of the modern era, stripped away and exposed to the onslaught of sports capitalism. I wish every success upon the new manager whoever he may be and will follow those ‘Red Men’ as avidly as I ever have, but no matter what success may lie in our future it will never be as sweet as it would have been with our King.

Goes a small way to explaining the hurt felt by a legends departure. :down:


another great article
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun May 20, 2012 7:09 pm

lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 6:40 pm wrote:
andy_g » Sat May 19, 2012 12:52 pm wrote:lakes, you repeated some of those courses 3 or 4 times. and you missed out the one about believing everything you read on twitter.

lol mate it was a copy from my course list , some are oneday work shops and some are full courses over weeks.


as for twitter, why not take what is posted on there as the truth when its posted by the likes of Kennys daughter and players from out club.


Because 99% of twitter is utter *****. And our players dont really give that much of any insightful information - they are footballers - they are thick.
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Postby supersub » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun May 20, 2012 6:49 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 pm wrote:Liverpool: The King is dead. Long live the Brand?

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/liverpool-the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-brand/?

Over the last ten days, football has delighted us with some of the most remarkable moments sport has to offer. Recent events have invoked the strongest of our emotions be it the euphoria of Manchester City’s astoundingly tense title victory, the heartbreaking travesty of a referee dictated relegation for Bolton or the disappointing removal of a king from his Anfield throne. We have been invigorated by football’s most enthralling aspects, its unpredictability and versatility to entertain, but our experiences have equally been marred by the game’s most deplorable of features and I fear the latter holds greater consequence. The dismissal of Kenny Dalglish is truly a travesty of the highest order, emphasising both the rapidity with which the core values of football can be thrown aside and the more demoralising revelation that fans have accepted this cycle as rational.

The sport currently operates in a climate of contradiction peddled by club spokesmen and media outlets alike. You will often hear phrases akin to, “building for the future” or “a complete rebuilding of the squad is needed” yet the actions of these institutions and the fickleness of mind shown by observers who bandy around such comments, undermine their own claims. The core principle of a long-term plan is an acknowledgement that time will be given for the process to develop. The interim period between start and completion, may produce varying results not always positive, that must be taken in light of a greater purpose. Stability is a necessity and it is unfortunately the sparsest resource in European football. The current system allots time to managers and staff while their team is winning and they are shown the door when results turn. It is a childish, thoughtless, reaction, founded upon a need for instant gratification that flies in the face of the concepts they so sincerely preach. Their behaviour revolves around a black and white perception of success that is not applicable in reality with every rival team setting equal expectations. Not everyone can win the league in the same season.

With Kenny Dalglish, the whole situation is heart-achingly demoralising. It has reached the point at which fans were criticised for their defence of Dalglish on-account of being too sentimental! This is when my hope for the future of the sport begins to wane, for is not the whole game founded upon the principle of sentimentality? Do we not diligently support our team through thick ‘n’ thin based upon such ideals of comradeship, town heritage and sense of community? Do we not spoil our players in affection and praise until that inevitable moment of their shift to a rival only to swathe them in scorn and vitriol? Caretakers strolling in and deciding what is “best for the club” while claiming a deep-rooted affiliation simply through the command of riches few others can match, shall never understand the ‘Liver Bird’ spirit embodied by Dalglish.

Unflinching corporate logic was the tool used to assess and accordingly dismiss Kenny Dalglish from office. This same logic would have had us believe that the appointment of a manager previously fired for struggling to stave off relegation, could never lead a team to an FA Cup victory and a Champions League final. It would have assured us both Messi and Ronaldo would have scored from the penalty spot in their respective semi-finals and that Manchester City would not have overturned a two goal deficit in injury time to give us the greatest climax to a Premier League season in history. Football follows its own brand of surreal logic and all that we can ask for is that our support is reciprocated through the commitment of those who represent our club.

Liverpool FC has always prided itself in keeping its matters ‘in house’, providing time for its managers and supporting their position until it became truly untenable. Kenny Dalglish is a paragon of these values and for a time, there was serenity in watching ‘The Reds’ play, whether in victory or defeat, knowing that the club was in the hands of one of us. This is no longer the case and in a matter of days the club has had its most cherished features, those traits that separated it from many of the modern era, stripped away and exposed to the onslaught of sports capitalism. I wish every success upon the new manager whoever he may be and will follow those ‘Red Men’ as avidly as I ever have, but no matter what success may lie in our future it will never be as sweet as it would have been with our King.

Goes a small way to explaining the hurt felt by a legends departure. :down:


another great article



Indeed it is ........unfortunately there will always be those that don't understand a word he said...
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Postby lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm

sorry you feel like that about things like twitter. its the way most get there news, news is posted on there about 1min after it happens, this means that no spin is added to it, its posted by the ones that it happens to and not the ones whos job it is to sit in a  news room at sky and put skys spin in it.
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Postby supersub » Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 pm

lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:sorry you feel like that about things like twitter. its the way most get there news, news is posted on there about 1min after it happens, this means that no spin is added to it, its posted by the ones that it happens to and not the ones whos job it is to sit in a  news room at sky and put skys spin in it.



all that is twittered is the truth :laugh:
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun May 20, 2012 7:23 pm

supersub » Sun May 20, 2012 6:17 pm wrote:
lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:sorry you feel like that about things like twitter. its the way most get there news, news is posted on there about 1min after it happens, this means that no spin is added to it, its posted by the ones that it happens to and not the ones whos job it is to sit in a  news room at sky and put skys spin in it.



all that is twittered is the truth :laugh:


that sounds like a 21st century led zeppelin lyric there supersub
there`s a lady who`s sure, all that twitters is gold, and she`s buying a stairway..........
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Postby lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:24 pm

supersub » Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 pm wrote:
lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:sorry you feel like that about things like twitter. its the way most get there news, news is posted on there about 1min after it happens, this means that no spin is added to it, its posted by the ones that it happens to and not the ones whos job it is to sit in a  news room at sky and put skys spin in it.



all that is twittered is the truth :laugh:


the point is mate that if its not the truth the person it is about will put their own tweet on it  to add their own point.

The S*n hate twitter as there lies are shot down even before 1 paper is sold.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun May 20, 2012 7:28 pm

lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:24 pm wrote:
supersub » Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 pm wrote:
lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:sorry you feel like that about things like twitter. its the way most get there news, news is posted on there about 1min after it happens, this means that no spin is added to it, its posted by the ones that it happens to and not the ones whos job it is to sit in a  news room at sky and put skys spin in it.



all that is twittered is the truth :laugh:


the point is mate that if its not the truth the person it is about will put their own tweet on it  to add their own point.

The S*n hate twitter as there lies are shot down even before 1 paper is sold.


Twitter is a social media site that has allowed morons a voice - its no better than any transfer rumour site
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun May 20, 2012 7:34 pm

Twitter was right about Kenny's sacking, 24 hours before it broke. 

It's a rumour site, and generally where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun May 20, 2012 7:38 pm

7_Kewell » Sun May 20, 2012 7:34 pm wrote:Twitter was right about Kenny's sacking, 24 hours before it broke. 

It's a rumour site, and generally where there's smoke, there's fire.


You started your celebrations early then.

Constantly pressing the refresh button with anticipation that the story would turn out to be true and then when it was official the champagne started to flow.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun May 20, 2012 7:47 pm

Benny The Noon » Sun May 20, 2012 6:38 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Sun May 20, 2012 7:34 pm wrote:Twitter was right about Kenny's sacking, 24 hours before it broke. 

It's a rumour site, and generally where there's smoke, there's fire.


You started your celebrations early then.

Constantly pressing the refresh button with anticipation that the story would turn out to be true and then when it was official the champagne started to flow.

And just when the discussions were getting interesting, Benny goes loony again  :laugh:
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Postby lakes10 » Sun May 20, 2012 7:55 pm

again i will state my point, twitter is used by the ones making the news and not the ones reporting the news.
Like Adam saying how much he wishes to stay at liverpool, they are his own words, you and tweet back to him and if you lucky have a chat with him.

the same can be said for many liverpool players, they do tweet back to fans.

yes it is a "It's a rumour site" but again not all the time, how can it be when a player tweets "yes i am staying" or no i am going" its not a rumour its the truth lol
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