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RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun May 13, 2012 4:47 pm wrote:

Bretc » Sun May 13, 2012 3:22 pm wrote:Watching the Swansea match now - if this is the way we're going to play next season with Kenny in charge, God helps us. To those hardcore Kenny supporters or so-called "true" supporters, it doesn't matter who is right - the Pro-Kenny camp or Anti-Kenny camp. It's Liverpool that matters to me most and I'm sure Kenny will be the first to admit the club always comes first. Ask yourself this, are we playing anywhere near the standard of a top 4 team? Remember, Kenny wanted to sign the British trash, yes it was Comolli's mistake for failing to negotiate lower prices but it was Kenny who wanted the players. He got them and failed to make them perform. Now I know some of you insisted that this is only their 1st year, they will come good next season - be honest to yourself, if they were signed by someone else and not Kenny, will your reaction be the same? Why does Kenny deserves another season? Tell me one good reason. Why? Bcos he won us the League Cup? Bcos he led us to the FA cup final? No bcos he is a legend. Pathetic!!!

Do us a favour ,go and support someone who wont expose your obvious fragility .....We need supporters(try it sometime ) not fucking critiques
Absolutely sick of all you fucking whining whimpering gobshites .

bye then, careful the door doesn't kick you up the ae$e on the way out 

FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm wrote:FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

it's not an agenda mate, it's recognition that we're f**ked. I'm for one happy the season is over because, quite frankly, this is one of the worst i'ver ever experienced as a fan.

Not only that, but it's painful to watch a club legend tarnish his career by taking our great club down the pan. If Kenny does stay, then fine, but the pressure will be immense and i for one don't think he's capable anymore.

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 4:48 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun May 13, 2012 4:47 pm wrote:

Bretc » Sun May 13, 2012 3:22 pm wrote:Watching the Swansea match now - if this is the way we're going to play next season with Kenny in charge, God helps us. To those hardcore Kenny supporters or so-called "true" supporters, it doesn't matter who is right - the Pro-Kenny camp or Anti-Kenny camp. It's Liverpool that matters to me most and I'm sure Kenny will be the first to admit the club always comes first. Ask yourself this, are we playing anywhere near the standard of a top 4 team? Remember, Kenny wanted to sign the British trash, yes it was Comolli's mistake for failing to negotiate lower prices but it was Kenny who wanted the players. He got them and failed to make them perform. Now I know some of you insisted that this is only their 1st year, they will come good next season - be honest to yourself, if they were signed by someone else and not Kenny, will your reaction be the same? Why does Kenny deserves another season? Tell me one good reason. Why? Bcos he won us the League Cup? Bcos he led us to the FA cup final? No bcos he is a legend. Pathetic!!!

Do us a favour ,go and support someone who wont expose your obvious fragility .....We need supporters(try it sometime ) not fucking critiques
Absolutely sick of all you fucking whining whimpering gobshites .

bye then, careful the door doesn't kick you up the ae$e on the way out 

Your about as funny as alopecia ,but infinitely less effective .

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 4:52 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm wrote:FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

it's not an agenda mate, it's recognition that we're f**ked. I'm for one happy the season is over because, quite frankly, this is one of the worst i'ver ever experienced as a fan.

Not only that, but it's painful to watch a club legend tarnish his career by taking our great club down the pan. If Kenny does stay, then fine, but the pressure will be immense and i for one don't think he's capable anymore.

just curious, some are throwing Wigan's Rob Martinez into the hat for new LFC manager...who will u prefer?
KK or Martinez?

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 4:52 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm wrote:FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

it's not an agenda mate, it's recognition that we're f**ked. I'm for one happy the season is over because, quite frankly, this is one of the worst i'ver ever experienced as a fan.

Not only that, but it's painful to watch a club legend tarnish his career by taking our great club down the pan. If Kenny does stay, then fine, but the pressure will be immense and i for one don't think he's capable anymore.

And there lies the difference. We are supporters, you are a spineless armchair FAN.

If things are so bad and so unbearable no one will miss you if you leave.

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 4:52 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm wrote:FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

it's not an agenda mate, it's recognition that we're f**ked. I'm for one happy the season is over because, quite frankly, this is one of the worst i'ver ever experienced as a fan.

Not only that, but it's painful to watch a club legend tarnish his career by taking our great club down the pan. If Kenny does stay, then fine, but the pressure will be immense and i for one don't think he's capable anymore.

Kenny would tarnish his career? he would never ever ever ever in a million years would tarnish his career even if he got us relegated

SouthCoastShankly » Sun May 13, 2012 4:58 pm wrote:

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 4:52 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm wrote:FFS Kewell, you always had an agenda on Kenny Dalglish, yes poor season but it's a one off, stop with the negative BS

it's not an agenda mate, it's recognition that we're f**ked. I'm for one happy the season is over because, quite frankly, this is one of the worst i'ver ever experienced as a fan.

Not only that, but it's painful to watch a club legend tarnish his career by taking our great club down the pan. If Kenny does stay, then fine, but the pressure will be immense and i for one don't think he's capable anymore.

And there lies the difference. We are supporters, you are a spineless armchair FAN.

If things are so bad and so unbearable no one will miss you if you leave.

i've been to anfield 5 times this season...which isn't a lot, but more than enough to see that there's a LOT of fans at Anfield (and the Albert) who feel the same. I support my club, but i'm not going to blindly support a manager who is out of his depth and dragging us down.

Oh please not again. One can be a supporter as well as a critique. I can be a critique but at the end of the day, i support the club. Every defeats hurts like a dagger into my heart. But there's a logical side of me that tells me what is wrong with the club and it's obvious ain't it? Was i wrong to say Kenny bought British trash? Was i wrong to say we are not top 4 material? Was i wrong to say Kenny failed to perform? Was i wrong to say he was accorded more patience than any other managers? We won't get to the top with blind faith ALONE. We need to rectify all the mistakes we made this season. Can Kenny do it? Can he be trusted with more transfer budget? Gimme some good logical replies!

Bretc » Sun May 13, 2012 5:05 pm wrote:Oh please not again. One can be a supporter as well as a critique. I can be a critique but at the end of the day, i support the club. Every defeats hurts like a dagger into my heart. But there's a logical side of me that tells me what is wrong with the club and it's obvious ain't it? Was i wrong to say Kenny bought British trash? Was i wrong to say we are not top 4 material? Was i wrong to say Kenny failed to perform? Was i wrong to say he was accorded more patience than any other managers? We won't get to the top with blind faith ALONE. We need to rectify all the mistakes we made this season. Can Kenny do it? Can he be trusted with more transfer budget? Gimme some good logical replies!

99% of liverpool managers get time to build their own team, the only exception has been hodgson, he was just unlucky that the 2 yanks were in charge when he was appointed so he was seen, rightly or wrongly, as a yes man brought in by them.
it took shankly 2 and a half seasons to get us out of the second division.

SouthCoastShankly » Sun May 13, 2012 12:45 am wrote:Interesting comments by Dalglish today on the coming transfer window. He said only Aurelio was planned to depart (out of contract). He said they would be looking only to make additions, which suggests both Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani could play a part next season.

very disapointed to hear that.
does anyone seriously think maxi,kuyt,spearing and carra are going to be any better next season or that aqua and cole will turn us into top 4 material?.
we need to offload that lot so we can fund replacements and give their wages to the new guys.

7_Kewell » Sun May 13, 2012 5:00 pm wrote:i've been to anfield 5 times this season...which isn't a lot, but more than enough to see that there's a LOT of fans at Anfield (and the Albert) who feel the same. I support my club, but i'm not going to blindly support a manager who is out of his depth and dragging us down.

You must be the quietest bod in the Albert ,because if you opened that nasty grid of yours and let loose some of that distasteful shite you
regularly spurt on Dalglish I  pretty much doubt you would get back out ... and thats a fucking fact

red till i die!! » Sun May 13, 2012 5:21 pm wrote:

SouthCoastShankly » Sun May 13, 2012 12:45 am wrote:Interesting comments by Dalglish today on the coming transfer window. He said only Aurelio was planned to depart (out of contract). He said they would be looking only to make additions, which suggests both Joe Cole and Alberto Aquilani could play a part next season.

very disapointed to hear that.
does anyone seriously think maxi,kuyt,spearing and carra are going to be any better next season or that aqua and cole will turn us into top 4 material?.
we need to offload that lot so we can fund replacements and give their wages to the new guys.

dalglish said in yesterdays echo that 1 or 2 might want to move on and in that case he`d have to look at their situations but he wasnt planning on selling anyone.
i think maxi and possibly kuyt might leave and i think doni wants more gametime too, they might be the ones that request to leave to get more playing time.
i think as regards bringing players in i dont think we`ll spend big money but we`ll try to unearth a few diamonds like newcastle and even everton have done with jelavic. he cost 6 or 7 million and is scoring nearly every week. when everyone is back and fit we have a decent squad and one or two of those could transform us.

I'm glad the season is over. Next year with Lucas back, we should improve but can we attain top 4 next season with the same players and manager? I really wish we can but i really have doubt. With KK in charge next year, he will keep playing his favourite rather than fielding the best team. Even if FSG is willing to open their vault, just not comfortable with KK spending the money on over priced and overrated British talent (also have question about KK knowledge on talent outside of the Premier league). Not to mention KK's in game selection and decision. Not trying to be too negative but how much can KK improve? Being stubborn is fine if we win but game after game, mistake after mistake and the fact that KK doesn't seems to be able to motivate the players really worries me. Objectively speaking, I really do not see any hard evidence suggested by those who wanted to give KK another year other than telling people to f'ck off by not supporting KK regardless of the process and result. Blind faith is not a bad thing but how many times it ends up working out? It simply prolonging the pain. Why teams pay top dollar for a top manager? It is because of their skill set such as motivation, tactics and eyes for talents. How many of those attributes you see KK has? Compare to the top managers in the world, how would you rank KK? I really wanted to believe in him but if you step back and look at things objectively, you have to realize he is not in the same class. No one would argue what KK had done for LFC. But it just might be a good time for him to step down for the good of the club. It is sad truth but sometimes hard work doesn't always mean success.

metalhead » Sun May 13, 2012 4:43 pm wrote:Tony Evans the Times saying that there is a big chance Kenny Dalglish will be axed .... decision to be made this week after FSG does a review of the season

I can understand FSG's decision if they do inform Kenny that he's to pick up his P45. His management of the club this season, especially in the second half of the season has been poor, very poor. Our form since January has been that of relegation candidates, let's be honest here! He's done well to get us into two cup finals, that was a fantastic feat and something Kenny deserves a lot of respect for achieving. However, our league form has been pathetic, he's missed a great opportunity to really propel us up the league table, but he's wasted that opportunity with poor signings for expensive prices. Once again in the aftermath of the defeat to Swansea, Kenny has said his side didn't deserve to lose, we were unfortunate and in truth I'm fed up of this over-used excuse. We deserve to be where we are this season, make no mistake about it. We've been poor and had this been Hodgson there would have been protests outside Melwood and outside Anfield as we speak. If Kenny does stay for another season, then he needs to re-group and work on a conjuring up a winning formula. However can a 61 year old manager really change? I'd like to believe so, but many would believe otherwise.