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burjennio » Mon May 07, 2012 3:43 pm wrote:If Kuyt is moving on in the summer as has been reported by various media outlets I dont think we could sign a better replacement than Clint Dempsey. All the same qualities in regards to workrate, commitment and knack for important goals. We've signed alot worse than the American in the last twelve months

Read a rumour in the press that we've offered Fulham Kuyt plus cash for Dempsey. Would be sorry to see Kuyt go, not our most talented player but certainly one of our most hardworking. Dempsey's had a good season, wouldn't be a bad signing but not exactly top of the shop, I guess thats what we're now reduced too.   

Dempsey not a bad option, also Moses from Wigan, not Darren Bent though, seriously don't like the player.

hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Sessignon at Sunderland is a quality player aswell, bags of skill and really makes there team tick. A few people have mentioned Dembele who i really like as well has lots of ability and hes one of the main reasons Dempsey has done so well this year. Id be happy to see us bid for any of the following, Kranjkear (Spurs), Johnson (Man City), Afellay (Barca), Sessignon (Sunderland) Cabaye (Newcastle) Hoilett (Blackburn). Not sure that Victor Moses is on our level, he can be very good at times, but hes all pace and power, he lacks intelligence and passsing ability.

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm wrote:hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 pm wrote:

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm wrote:hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

Quite frankly you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think we have a chance in attracting big name players after an awful league performance and a cup defeat. Half the problem you have is seeing us as the same CL team from 3 seasons ago. We aren't and it will take time to get back there.

moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

Looking at our form this season we have to ask ourselves can we afford to rely on players that need "time and experience".

I realise that we have to bring players through BUT it's one thing to give one or two youngsters time in a successful team and a different story to include them in a team that's struggled the way we have.

Lets not forget that our form since the turn of the year is on a level with the candidates for relegation, sorry but right now I don't think we should be looking to recruit any more "one for the future" or "give 'em time" signings.

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 pm wrote:

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm wrote:hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

No chance of Hazard or Martinez coming here so you can put those thoughts out of your head now if i where you coz those signings just wont happen without Champions league football. I understand where your coming from about signing from mid table teams, but if a player is genuine quality then i dont see a problem with it. Dembele looks quality everytime he plays for Fulham and has been very consistent for them for over a year, Sessignon has been excellent for Sunderland as well. Hoillet, Sigurdson and Victor Moses would be a risk IMO and could be potential Charlie Adams but taking a chance on one of them wont be a problem i dont think. What we dont want is a situation like last year where we bought a load of rubbish for over inflated prices. I dont know about anyone else but i was wasnt very impressed with the likes Henderson, Downing and Carroll before they got here anyway so i wasnt particuarlly suprised to see them struggle.

SouthCoastShankly » Mon May 07, 2012 3:51 pm wrote:

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 pm wrote:

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm wrote:hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

Quite frankly you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think we have a chance in attracting big name players after an awful league performance and a cup defeat. Half the problem you have is seeing us as the same CL team from 3 seasons ago. We aren't and it will take time to get back there.

The future looks worrying then because I don't see the Swansea player or Dempsey being the players to get us back into the top four. Neither are any better than what we have.

Fowler_E7 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:53 pm wrote:

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:44 pm wrote:

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm wrote:hoilett and sigurdsson are no brainers for me. hoilett is out of contract but we'd have to pay £5m compensation as he's under 24. excellent player though. sigurdsson is absolute class and would be available for £10m. technically brilliant, two footed and scores goals from midfield (7 in 13 for swansea).

i do like dembele and moses. they could both be world beaters if they improved their end product. dembele dribbles past players for fun and moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

dempsey will amost certainly leave fulham but his age might mean that we don't go for him with the owners looking mainly at players under 23. that's an other reason why we won't go for someone like huntelaar who despite being 29, is absolutely what we're looking for.

Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

No chance of Hazard or Martinez coming here so you can put those thoughts out of your head now if i where you coz those signings just wont happen without Champions league football. I understand where your coming from about signing from mid table teams, but if a player is genuine quality then i dont see a problem with it. Dembele looks quality everytime he plays for Fulham and has been very consistent for them for over a year, Sessignon has been excellent for Sunderland as well. Hoillet, Sigurdson and Victor Moses would be a risk IMO and could be potential Charlie Adams but taking a chance on one of them wont be a problem i dont think. What we dont want is a situation like last year where we bought a load of rubbish for over inflated prices. I dont know about anyone else but i was wasnt very impressed with the likes Henderson, Downing and Carroll before they got here anyway so i wasnt particuarlly suprised to see them struggle.

Why did Suarez join Liverpool given that we were about sixth at the time and unlikely to get in the top four when he joined us?

sigurdsson not better than what we have? do you actually watch the guy play? he's scored more goals from midfield since january than our central midfield combined in a newly promoted team. he ran the show when he played for reading against us a few years back when we had the likes of mascherano and lucas in the side. he's in a different class to anything we have in an attacking sense from midfield.

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 4:44 pm wrote:Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

eden hazard? you mean the eden hazard who has said he wants champions league football and wants wages of £200k a week? what planet are you living on?

as for javi martinez, he'd cost a kings ransom and is nailed on to go to barca or madrid so that's a non starter.

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 4:11 pm wrote:sigurdsson not better than what we have? do you actually watch the guy play? he's scored more goals from midfield since january than our central midfield combined in a newly promoted team. he ran the show when he played for reading against us a few years back when we had the likes of mascherano and lucas in the side. he's in a different class to anything we have in an attacking sense from midfield.

Maybe he is but similar things were being said about Adam a year ago. Various players look great when they're the big fish for mid-table sides but look unimpressive when they then join a bigger team hence my reference to Adam.

My point is not about the lad's ability but about repeating past mistakes.

stmichael » Mon May 07, 2012 4:14 pm wrote:

friendlyguy33 » Mon May 07, 2012 4:44 pm wrote:Why are we looking at players from other premiership clubs who are mid-table? The same plaudits were being lavished on Charlie Adam last season. I'm sorry I don't think Sigurdsson is the answer and I'm unconvinced by Demebele given that no other top clubs seem interested in him. I'd like to see a genuine bid made for Eden Hazard I know we're not in the champions league next season but surely Liverpool's history could persuade him to join the way it did with Suarez. If not Hazard then Javi Martinez of Bilbao. We have to look higher than premiership players that must surely be the lesson of last summer's mistakes.

eden hazard? you mean the eden hazard who has said he wants champions league football and wants wages of £200k a week? what planet are you living on?

as for javi martinez, he'd cost a kings ransom and is nailed on to go to barca or madrid so that's a non starter.

Well we signed Suarez who apparently also wants champions league football at some stage in his career. As for costing a kings ransom didn't FSG say that they would do whatever it takes to win the title if that means paying top fees?

I can't see a top four finish with players from Swansea or Fulham joining. Maybe if Aquilani comes back Kenny will play him with Lucas next season and that will be the answer who knows.

woof woof ! » Mon May 07, 2012 3:51 pm wrote:

moses has all the talent and confidence in the world but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired at times. he's only 21 though so that will come, in the same way that henderson will improve given time and experience.

Looking at our form this season we have to ask ourselves can we afford to rely on players that need "time and experience".

I realise that we have to bring players through BUT it's one thing to give one or two youngsters time in a successful team and a different story to include them in a team that's struggled the way we have.

Lets not forget that our form since the turn of the year is on a level with the candidates for relegation, sorry but right now I don't think we should be looking to recruit any more "one for the future" or "give 'em time" signings.

i agree mate, we bought mostly potential last summer when in hindsight we needed the finished articles to move us up a level. buying potential is great when you already have a good side and you are planning to stay at the top in the future but that isnt the situation we are in.
we need players that will come into the side and have the same effect on the first team that suarez did.