Liverpool FC Forum

by **redtrader74** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:43 pm

Kerry07 wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:You might want Mourinho, but he won't want us, this line is a waste of time. Where ever he has managed, HE has been at the Club that spent the MOST money during his time there, and just prior to him.

ill-informed comment.

Ian McGarry, a friend of his, has stated on five live, Liverpool is the club that appeals to him most.

Must be true then, ian mcgarry oracle :wwww

Gets paid to talk :censored:

, what's so insightful about saying something banal and complimentary??

Even IF we do appeal to him, so what? His pattern/ strategy is to go where massive funds, relative to that league, have been spent and are available, therefore not us. He will NEVER be at LFC while City, Manu, chelsea can outspend us.

by **lakes10** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:43 pm

friendlyguy33 wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Not if the successor is Mourinho.

Sport isn't an exact science it wouldn't be guaranteed he'd engineer a title challenge next season.

That said I suspect if Liverpool lose to Sunderland next weekend and don't win the derby or win at QPR there are going to be more rumblings about Dalglish's long term future.

you and kerry would love that.

by **parchpea** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:44 pm

We have been loyal to every manager we have appointed (accept Hodgson) but I would ask where that has got us in league terms since we last won the title 22 years ago.

There is no blueprint hidden under Anfield and clearly we dont have the solutions any longer. Maybe the games changed, and what we actually need is a tough approach where managers come into the job knowing they have to perform or bite the bullet.

Liverpool right now is an easy number in big club terms, you get time, you get maginifcent support, and its a sweet an old school approach in a cut throat football world that appears to have left us behind on the field.

by **friendlyguy33** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:57 pm

lakes10 wrote:
friendlyguy33 wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Not if the successor is Mourinho.

Sport isn't an exact science it wouldn't be guaranteed he'd engineer a title challenge next season.

That said I suspect if Liverpool lose to Sunderland next weekend and don't win the derby or win at QPR there are going to be more rumblings about Dalglish's long term future.

you and kerry would love that.

Why would I love it?

I'm behind Dalglish I think he can still turn it round but it has to start in the next game.

by **lakes10** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:59 pm

friendlyguy33 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
friendlyguy33 wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Not if the successor is Mourinho.

Sport isn't an exact science it wouldn't be guaranteed he'd engineer a title challenge next season.

That said I suspect if Liverpool lose to Sunderland next weekend and don't win the derby or win at QPR there are going to be more rumblings about Dalglish's long term future.

you and kerry would love that.

Why would I love it?

I'm behind Dalglish I think he can still turn it round but it has to start in the next game.

more pointed at kerry than you sorry, just that you gave the the chance to post it.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:00 pm

parchpea wrote:We have been loyal to every manager we have appointed (accept Hodgson) but I would ask where that has got us in league terms since we last won the title 22 years ago.

There is no blueprint hidden under Anfield and clearly we dont have the solutions any longer. Maybe the games changed, and what we actually need is a tough approach where managers come into the job knowing they have to perform or bite the bullet.

Liverpool right now is an easy number in big club terms, you get time, you get maginifcent support, and its a sweet an old school approach in a cut throat football world that appears to have left us behind on the field.

but we have had success, the only thing missing is the league title.
over the past 20 years we have won the european cup, appeared in another final and lost another semi final, we have won the f.a cup 3 times and lost another final, we have won the league cup 4 times and lost another final, we have won the uefa cup once and the european super cup twice too
at any other club that would be seen as a golden age, yeah its dissappointing not to have won the league but we`ve been second a few times over the years.
when united went on their barren run they went down a division and won a couple of f.a cups in their 26 year drought.
to say being loyal to managers hasnt worked is clearly wrong.

by **friendlyguy33** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:01 pm

lakes10 wrote:
friendlyguy33 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
friendlyguy33 wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Not if the successor is Mourinho.

Sport isn't an exact science it wouldn't be guaranteed he'd engineer a title challenge next season.

That said I suspect if Liverpool lose to Sunderland next weekend and don't win the derby or win at QPR there are going to be more rumblings about Dalglish's long term future.

you and kerry would love that.

Why would I love it?

I'm behind Dalglish I think he can still turn it round but it has to start in the next game.

more pointed at kerry than you sorry, just that you gave the the chance to post it.

Right ok then no worries.

by **parchpea** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:12 pm

We had had success yes but surely the aim is to get back on top and we arent doing that by a long chalk.

I understand times have changed but we should not give up fighting or lowering expectation or we are certainly doomed to failure.

Put it this way the Mancs went 26 years but never gave in chasing us and we should have the same fight now.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:58 pm

parchpea wrote:We had had success yes but surely the aim is to get back on top and we arent doing that by a long chalk.

I understand times have changed but we should not give up fighting or lowering expectation or we are certainly doomed to failure.

Put it this way the Mancs went 26 years but never gave in chasing us and we should have the same fight now.

no one is lowering expectations and there is no one who wants to win more than dalglish mate.
in the past 20 years we`ve had 2 managers go down with heart trouble (and souness was only 38 when he had to have his heart operation) another manager, roy evans, who had been here since shankly`s day and as a manager never finished outside of the top 4 (but only the top 2 qualified for the CL back then) thought it would be better for the club if he fell on his sword so he resigned and ended up in tears at the press conference when he had to say goodbye to the club, benitez looked close to tears himself at the end and infact he did shed tears during the hillsborough memorial service, dalglish himself retired in the first place in his early 40`s due to stress..........over the past 20 years just because we havent won the league doesnt mean the managers havent been trying or giving everything they have for this club mate, do you think they`d get themselves into that state if they were lowering expectations or werent bothered about the club and the fans?
people, including teak tough characters like souness and dalglish have made themselves ill over this club, they know what the club means, no one is lowering expectations, no one is giving up fighting, but just because you dont lower expectations or stop fighting doesnt mean you will always win

by **Thommo's perm** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:45 pm

Kerry07 wrote:If you aint asking questions you aint a fan of this club.

I see what you did there
Phoney hole
:;):

by **Thommo's perm** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Villas Boas didnt deliver and was fired.. echoing my point that Chelsea are deemed to be in a crisis, and they sit 7 points clear of us, and are in the last 16 of the CL. He didnt spend 100m either.

When does the heat come on Kenny?

He has to be accountable for his 70million outlay on average british players, he has to be accountable for us sitting 7th in the league, with 4 wins at home in March. We all know that Roy Hodgson would be, Kenny doesnt get special dispensation. My fear when he was appointed is that he would.

In Summer 2002 Houllier bought Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou (just 20m outlay), the following season we finished 5th, and a year later finished 4th.. and he was sacked.

In 2011 Kenny spent triple that on british players, one of whom is the 8th most expensive player in the history of the sport, an uproven 35million pound bench warmer, and we wont finish any higher than 6th. If there is no improvement next season Kenny will be gone. Now i have asked the question what will be different next season, because i cant see how it can be. The british players have only just been signed for a fortune, they are on huge wages, no one would spend half on what we paid for them, they have no resale value. So in the likelihood that they will still be here and we cant replace them with quality.. how can next season be any different to this one? What evidence is there that we are moving forward. The statistics show we are not, the players we have show we are not. The league table doesnt lie.

the heat wont come on kenny, not from the older fans and the fans that have a clue anyway.
if you like hounding managers out go and support chelsea they have a really high turnover of managers, you`ll have a ball supporting them.
dalglish has been here 1 calender year, he hasnt even completed 1 full season yet and you want him sacked?
i think some of the other posters might be right, i think you are a manc or a bluenose just stirring sh.1t.

Hear hear!
To encourage our manager to be pressured by the fans and hope that he loses his job, to be replaced by a known egomaniac shows the knowledge and respect (or lack of) by some who profess to be supporters.
Sh'it stirring is right
:nod

by **dundreamin** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:05 pm

Fuc.ksake 7 days since we won a trophy and the moaners re-emerge. This time next season you p.ricks will be praising kenny. WAIT AND SEE.

by **devaney** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:50 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
parchpea wrote:We have been loyal to every manager we have appointed (accept Hodgson) but I would ask where that has got us in league terms since we last won the title 22 years ago.

There is no blueprint hidden under Anfield and clearly we dont have the solutions any longer. Maybe the games changed, and what we actually need is a tough approach where managers come into the job knowing they have to perform or bite the bullet.

Liverpool right now is an easy number in big club terms, you get time, you get maginifcent support, and its a sweet an old school approach in a cut throat football world that appears to have left us behind on the field.

but we have had success, the only thing missing is the league title.
over the past 20 years we have won the european cup, appeared in another final and lost another semi final, we have won the f.a cup 3 times and lost another final, we have won the league cup 4 times and lost another final, we have won the uefa cup once and the european super cup twice too
at any other club that would be seen as a golden age, yeah its dissappointing not to have won the league but we`ve been second a few times over the years.
when united went on their barren run they went down a division and won a couple of f.a cups in their 26 year drought.
to say being loyal to managers hasnt worked is clearly wrong.

Excellent post mate! Agree with you 100%

by **Scottbot** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:03 am

Kerry07 wrote:And that right there is the fear that i mentioned. The special dispensation. Rather than judging his performance like any other manager, he has accrued credits among the "older fans" that mean he can do what the hell he likes. Hes untouchable.

I didnt actually say i want him sacked.. what i have asked for is where are we moving forward? What evidence is there that next season will be any different?

Special dispensation? Too right he gets special dispensation and if you can't understand why, if you don't see it, if you need someone to explain it then you're probably never going to understand. And as for being untouchable or being able to do what he likes? If things don't go well it will be Kenny who takes the decision to walk away because he is utterly selfless when it comes to Liverpool Football Club. and I don't think you need to be an older fan to see that.

by **Thommo's perm** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:11 am

Scottbot wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:And that right there is the fear that i mentioned. The special dispensation. Rather than judging his performance like any other manager, he has accrued credits among the "older fans" that mean he can do what the hell he likes. Hes untouchable.

I didnt actually say i want him sacked.. what i have asked for is where are we moving forward? What evidence is there that next season will be any different?

Special dispensation? Too right he gets special dispensation and if you can't understand why, if you don't see it, if you need someone to explain it then you're probably never going to understand. And as for being untouchable or being able to do what he likes? If things don't go well it will be Kenny who takes the decision to walk away because he is utterly selfless when it comes to Liverpool Football Club. and I don't think you need to be an older fan to see that.

Youve it the nail on the head.
Any credibility Kerry had is surely lost with this ignorant, disrespectful and frankly outrageous remark about someone who has done as much for LFC?
:no

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