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Kerry07 wrote:

friendlyguy33 wrote:

Kerry07 wrote:I will ask the question again

Are we any further forward?
league wise? no
player wise? no

What then?

Be specific.. what are we further forward at?

I disagree. Carroll for all his faults this year is a stronger and more difficult striker to handle than Ngog. Henderson has had some good games this year including today and is better than the likes of Babel or Jovanovic. Likewise Downing has contributed more than Cole and Adam is streets ahead of Poulsen. Similarly Enrique as against Konckesky.

League wise we may have only a point more than at this stage a year ago but in the long term I think the squad is better. The fact is that in the cups we are genuinely competing again and we're still in the mix mathmatically or the the top four. You couldn't say that a year ago.

I don't think it helps to keep rubbishing the squad. We should be getting behind the players and the manager not denigrating them at every turn.

You've resorted to comparing players who cost 70million with reserve players.

Ade Akinbiyi has a better goal return than Ngog.



Its evident that some people have the blinkers on, and refuse to see what everyone outside the club can see. I watch LFCTV constantly, but i also listen/watch other media outlets to get an objective view.

We signed poorly.
We are no further forward league wise.
We have played 26 games, have 4 wins at home, scored 30 goals, have a plus 5 goal difference, sit 7th, and this is a season where both Chelsea and Arsenal have dipped and are deemed to have been in a crisis.

Im looking ahead.. how can anyone see us moving forward? What evidence? What will change next season to be different to this one? The British players that are not good enough have only just been signed for a fortune. Will they be moved on quickly and be replaced by quality? They all played against championship side Cardiff and bar Downing they were dreadful... two taken off having done nothing, and the other overhit everything. If Kenny Miller doesn't blaze his shot over the bar in the 88th minute i wonder what people would be saying now.

We are in dire need of goals, dont have a goalscorer.. and there is a player sat on the bench who Kenny paid 35million for. Imagine the same scenario, but Hodgson had done it.

If you aint asking questions you aint a fan of this club.

7_Kewell wrote:I wish people would stop using City and their "four years of spending" as an excuse. It doesn't stack up when you consider NEWCASTLE and above us and STOKE are 3 points behind us...

friendlyguy33 wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:I wish people would stop using City and their "four years of spending" as an excuse. It doesn't stack up when you consider NEWCASTLE and above us and STOKE are 3 points behind us...

It's not an excuse. Look at Villas-Boas at Chelsea he didn't deliver this season. The idea that KK or anyone else would have instantly delivered or guaranteed top four this season is a delusion.

The league position isn't good enough but I don't buy the idea that last summer's transfer window was sufficient time to put right what went wrong before that.

And look what happened to AVB....

Kerry07 wrote:Villas Boas didnt deliver and was fired.. echoing my point that Chelsea are deemed to be in a crisis, and they sit 7 points clear of us, and are in the last 16 of the CL. He didnt spend 100m either.

When does the heat come on Kenny?

He has to be accountable for his 70million outlay on average british players, he has to be accountable for us sitting 7th in the league, with 4 wins at home in March. We all know that Roy Hodgson would be, Kenny doesnt get special dispensation. My fear when he was appointed is that he would.

In Summer 2002 Houllier bought Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou (just 20m outlay), the following season we finished 5th, and a year later finished 4th.. and he was sacked.

In 2011 Kenny spent triple that on british players, one of whom is the 8th most expensive player in the history of the sport, an uproven 35million pound bench warmer, and we wont finish any higher than 6th. If there is no improvement next season Kenny will be gone. Now i have asked the question what will be different next season, because i cant see how it can be. The british players have only just been signed for a fortune, they are on huge wages, no one would spend half on what we paid for them, they have no resale value. So in the likelihood that they will still be here and we cant replace them with quality.. how can next season be any different to this one? What evidence is there that we are moving forward. The statistics show we are not, the players we have show we are not. The league table doesnt lie.

Kerry07 wrote:Villas Boas didnt deliver and was fired.. echoing my point that Chelsea are deemed to be in a crisis, and they sit 7 points clear of us, and are in the last 16 of the CL. He didnt spend 100m either.

When does the heat come on Kenny?

He has to be accountable for his 70million outlay on average british players, he has to be accountable for us sitting 7th in the league, with 4 wins at home in March. We all know that Roy Hodgson would be, Kenny doesnt get special dispensation. My fear when he was appointed is that he would.

In Summer 2002 Houllier bought Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou (just 20m outlay), the following season we finished 5th, and a year later finished 4th.. and he was sacked.

In 2011 Kenny spent triple that on british players, one of whom is the 8th most expensive player in the history of the sport, an uproven 35million pound bench warmer, and we wont finish any higher than 6th. If there is no improvement next season Kenny will be gone. Now i have asked the question what will be different next season, because i cant see how it can be. The british players have only just been signed for a fortune, they are on huge wages, no one would spend half on what we paid for them, they have no resale value. So in the likelihood that they will still be here and we cant replace them with quality.. how can next season be any different to this one? What evidence is there that we are moving forward. The statistics show we are not, the players we have show we are not. The league table doesnt lie.

redtrader74 wrote:You might want Mourinho, but he won't want us, this line is a waste of time. Where ever he has managed, HE has been at the Club that spent the MOST money during his time there.

redtrader74 wrote:You might want Mourinho, but he won't want us, this line is a waste of time. Where ever he has managed, HE has been at the Club that spent the MOST money during his time there, and just prior to him.

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:

Kerry07 wrote:Villas Boas didnt deliver and was fired.. echoing my point that Chelsea are deemed to be in a crisis, and they sit 7 points clear of us, and are in the last 16 of the CL. He didnt spend 100m either.

When does the heat come on Kenny?

He has to be accountable for his 70million outlay on average british players, he has to be accountable for us sitting 7th in the league, with 4 wins at home in March. We all know that Roy Hodgson would be, Kenny doesnt get special dispensation. My fear when he was appointed is that he would.

In Summer 2002 Houllier bought Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou (just 20m outlay), the following season we finished 5th, and a year later finished 4th.. and he was sacked.

In 2011 Kenny spent triple that on british players, one of whom is the 8th most expensive player in the history of the sport, an uproven 35million pound bench warmer, and we wont finish any higher than 6th. If there is no improvement next season Kenny will be gone. Now i have asked the question what will be different next season, because i cant see how it can be. The british players have only just been signed for a fortune, they are on huge wages, no one would spend half on what we paid for them, they have no resale value. So in the likelihood that they will still be here and we cant replace them with quality.. how can next season be any different to this one? What evidence is there that we are moving forward. The statistics show we are not, the players we have show we are not. The league table doesnt lie.

the heat wont come on kenny, not from the older fans and the fans that have a clue anyway.
if you like hounding managers out go and support chelsea they have a really high turnover of managers, you`ll have a ball supporting them.
dalglish has been here 1 calender year, he hasnt even completed 1 full season yet and you want him sacked?
i think some of the other posters might be right, i think you are a manc or a bluenose just stirring sh.1t.

lakes10 wrote:

redtrader74 wrote:You might want Mourinho, but he won't want us, this line is a waste of time. Where ever he has managed, HE has been at the Club that spent the MOST money during his time there.

not ture mate, Mourinho has stated in the past that Liverpool would be one of the few places he would come back to England for. he has said before he loves the city and the history of the club and grow up in a time when football meant Liverpool.

Kerry07 wrote:Not if the successor is Mourinho.