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by **RedAnt** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:15 am

parchpea wrote:I doubt the Evra thing will be his last time in the spotlight and we can expect more interesting and controversial moments from Luis as thats just the way this lad goes about his game.

Aye. Look at Bellamy. He's been as bad, if not worse than Suarez. Time has mellowed his actions (thus far) but he's as gobby as ever and that's how ya want him.

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:24 am

The worst thing about the Suarez case here in England is the hypocrisy. Every media outlet, every pundit has had a say and it is taken as gospel. I watched Garth Crooks on Football Focus and his reaction to Suarez not shaking Evras hand, to people like him, and the media, it is one dimensional. Suarez is the bad guy and that is it.

John Barnes, the voice of experience, who has suffered throughout his career, has spoke the most sense, but has been ignored. Why? well simply because he hasn't jumped on the Suarez is evil bandwagon.

And like I said this is the worst, the hypocrisy. You can point out all the misdemeanour's of every single person involved, but for today, Suarez is the evil one. One player who can barely speak English is expected to know better than everyone else, whose hypocrisy is keeping them from knowing better.

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:44 am

Kharhaz wrote:The worst thing about the Suarez case here in England is the hypocrisy. Every media outlet, every pundit has had a say and it is taken as gospel. I watched Garth Crooks on Football Focus and his reaction to Suarez not shaking Evras hand, to people like him, and the media, it is one dimensional. Suarez is the bad guy and that is it.

John Barnes, the voice of experience, who has suffered throughout his career, has spoke the most sense, but has been ignored. Why? well simply because he hasn't jumped on the Suarez is evil bandwagon.

And like I said this is the worst, the hypocrisy. You can point out all the misdemeanour's of every single person involved, but for today, Suarez is the evil one. One player who can barely speak English is expected to know better than everyone else, whose hypocrisy is keeping them from knowing better.

He didnt say anything in English. He said it in Spanish. So now he has to learn English to make sure he doesnt say something in Spanish which is offensive to a French man in England.
I love this country

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Great to see the mancs have still got friends in high places:

Nazir Afzal, Chief Crown Prosecutor for the North West, said: "I have decided that no further action will be taken in relation to allegations surrounding the publication and distribution of the Red Issue fanzine at Old Trafford football ground on February 11 2012. During the investigation into the matter by Greater Manchester Police, the issue of potential incitement to racial hatred was raised. As a result, I consulted the CPS's Special Crime and Counter Terrorism Division, who are responsible for advising on suspected cases of incitement. Following this consultation, I have received advice from a senior lawyer in that division that, although the fanzine distributed may have been offensive to some people, there was insufficient evidence to prove that the content was intended to stir up racial hatred, or that it was or likely to do so. I have therefore concluded there is insufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction for incitement to racial hatred against any person."
He added: "It is not a crime to possess material that is threatening, abusive or insulting, or hold views which others may find unpleasant and obnoxious. It is a crime to distribute this sort of material to the public, if it is intended to stir up racial hatred, or in circumstances where it is likely to have that effect."

Funny how some things could cause a riot, yet others wouldnt...
:laugh:

by **devaney** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:48 am

Why don't we just join in the booing and let the world know we are booing the way Suarez has been unfairly victimised? Alternatively we could start chanting Looooooo when the moronic opposing fans start booing Suarez. That would certainly drown out their pathetic chanting at Anfield and confuse the life out of the worlds media! Just need to make sure that we tell Luis Suarez what is going on!

by **metalhead** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:58 pm

Worked his socks off today, but he doesn't look like the same player he was 12 months ago, looks out of confidence, takes too many touches, losing the ball a lot, his flicks aren't working and being more selfish. I think the problem is confidence and after what happened this season with him who can blame him, lets hope in a couple of games and after the win today he gets back to his best

by **fivecups** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:27 pm

metalhead wrote:Worked his socks off today, but he doesn't look like the same player he was 12 months ago, looks out of confidence, takes too many touches, losing the ball a lot, his flicks aren't working and being more selfish. I think the problem is confidence and after what happened this season with him who can blame him, lets hope in a couple of games and after the win today he gets back to his best

Totally agree Metal, his self belief isn't there. I hope he can recover it, but when he's booed at every ground he goes too, I'm not sure he'll get back to being the player he was, not in England anyway.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:13 am

fivecups wrote:
metalhead wrote:Worked his socks off today, but he doesn't look like the same player he was 12 months ago, looks out of confidence, takes too many touches, losing the ball a lot, his flicks aren't working and being more selfish. I think the problem is confidence and after what happened this season with him who can blame him, lets hope in a couple of games and after the win today he gets back to his best

Totally agree Metal, his self belief isn't there. I hope he can recover it, but when he's booed at every ground he goes too, I'm not sure he'll get back to being the player he was, not in England anyway.

i think your looking into it too much, he was great last week against brighton.
he just didnt have his best game today but to be fair the cardiff defenders were throwing themselves around like jamie carragher in istanbul so he wasnt allowed to.
in general though as a side we under performed while cardiff over performed.
saying that he had a hand in our equaliser by hitting the post and he had one cleared off the line so he wasnt anonomous or anything.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:51 am

Suarez was bleedin' muck today, end of. Spent almost as much time whingeing as Carroll did. He should cop on a bit...

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:01 am

bunglemark2 wrote:Suarez was bleedin' muck today, end of. Spent almost as much time whingeing as Carroll did. He should cop on a bit...

obviously you never watched us in the 70`s and 80`s, i`ve yet to see a bigger moaner on a football pitch than kenny dalglish, he used to spend half the game following the ref around the pitch whingeing and moaning, he used to quite often grab the refs shirt or arm if they tried to ignore him as well.

by **jimmy brighton** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:02 am

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:Suarez was bleedin' muck today, end of. Spent almost as much time whingeing as Carroll did. He should cop on a bit...

obviously you never watched us in the 70`s and 80`s, i`ve yet to see a bigger moaner on a football pitch than kenny dalglish, he used to spend half the game following the ref around the pitch whingeing and moaning, he used to quite often grab the refs shirt or arm if they tried to ignore him as well.

so true

by **Kerry07** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:36 am

Luis didnt have his best game.. however he was isolated upfront without someone to play off (Gerrard was far too deep) and with all due respect to Andy Carroll he aint exactly an ideal player to link up with.

Luis needs quality players to play off him. Besides Gerrard when he plays advanced, Maxi is probably the best we have to do that. Andy Carroll has not looked in the same wavelength. Luis is a one-two kinda player, short passes, constant movement.. he didnt have anyone up there doing similar. Probably when Kuyt came on was the best Luis looked.

by **metalhead** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:24 am

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
fivecups wrote:
metalhead wrote:Worked his socks off today, but he doesn't look like the same player he was 12 months ago, looks out of confidence, takes too many touches, losing the ball a lot, his flicks aren't working and being more selfish. I think the problem is confidence and after what happened this season with him who can blame him, lets hope in a couple of games and after the win today he gets back to his best

Totally agree Metal, his self belief isn't there. I hope he can recover it, but when he's booed at every ground he goes too, I'm not sure he'll get back to being the player he was, not in England anyway.

i think your looking into it too much, he was great last week against brighton.
he just didnt have his best game today but to be fair the cardiff defenders were throwing themselves around like jamie carragher in istanbul so he wasnt allowed to.
in general though as a side we under performed while cardiff over performed.
saying that he had a hand in our equaliser by hitting the post and he had one cleared off the line so he wasnt anonomous or anything.

He wasn't at his best against Brighton either mate, he found himself in the same situation, losing the ball and not looking to give a pass. He doesn't look like a player in confidence, and again it might have been that whole fiasco

by **woof woof !** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:55 am

Gotta admit, yesterday I found myself thinking "on this kind of form the fella is looking seriously overrated"

He's proven that ability, desire and determination are there by the bucket load and yet ....................

Since his return the application is certainly a bit "off"

by **Thommo's perm** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:46 am

woof woof ! wrote:Gotta admit, yesterday I found myself thinking "on this kind of form the fella is looking seriously overrated"

He's proven that ability, desire and determination are there by the bucket load and yet ....................

Since his return the application is certainly a bit "off"

Its obvious the Evra sh'it has affected him. Hes not half the player he was.

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