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by **ethanr** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:35 pm

Sometimes I doubt Mourinho's credentials. He did well with chelski, but had all the money in the world to buy whoever he wanted... it's chelski. He went to Inter and spent 45 million euros to upgrade a squad that was already the best in Serie A. He went to madrid and spent over 60 million euros in the transfer window over summer as well, with an even better squad. What he did for Porto was great, but he's only been managing the best teams. If you only manage the best teams, you are supposed to win everything. Yet this year I doubt he's going to win anything.

But no doubt he is a good manager. I suppose if over the summer we sold our dead wait and got transfer funds from the owners, we'd probably have at least 60 million pounds. Jose would probably demand at least that much to become manager. But I think there are plenty of managers who could turn the club around with that much money.

Tho, I do think there are people who would come because Jose was the manager. They would see that we hired the supposedly best manager in the world, gave him a lot of money and players would want to play here.

by **Ray Pugh** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:04 pm

ethanr wrote:Tho, I do think there are people who would come because Jose was the manager. They would see that we hired the supposedly best manager in the world, gave him a lot of money and players would want to play here.

Another very good point

by **tubby** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:17 pm

Mourinho has a good track record but everywhere he has gone he has always been financially backed to the hilt. It's a tough call and I think with the right circumstances (ie financially with transfers) and if he made it known he would be open to coming here then id imagine the owners would seriously consider him. Let's face if they are here to win so want to do everything in their power to make it happen. Personally though I can see him going to City. They will be in the CL and have near unlimited funds.

I think regardless of who might be available in the summer or if Kenny is likely to be as active in 5 years, I think he should still be given at least another year in charge. He has brought back the feel good factor and on the whole we are playing a nicer brand of positive football. I think with a summer of rebuilding we can go into next season stronger and even make a push for a top 4 spot if the owners back him in the transfer market.

by **kazza** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:00 pm

Let's go back in time to Maureen's last year at Porto. Porto against Utd and in Porto they drew 0-0 and at Old Traford Utd were winning 1-0 for what seemed like the whole match until Porto equalized at the end of the match drawing 1-1 and going through on away goals to the dimay of the Utd fans(

but I digress). They went and played a good Monaco side in the final that was ravaged with injuries and suspensions. Who was in the market for a new manager but none other than every manager's wet dream Roman Abramovich. The rest was inevitable.

Point is, that equalizer does not go in againt Utd, and no one would have heard of Maureen, granted though he has taken his chances.

For me the biggest knock on Maureen beside that his teams play ugly football, is he is not there for the long haul. He flips teams around too much for my liking and not there to build. Would dearly love to be the Utd manager as the team is already primed and no doubt will be purple nose's replacement and for that I am happy as I would much rather root againt him than for him. He is typical of what is wrong with football and I think over-rated.

by **Greavesie** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:01 pm

aren't our owners big fans of Porto's current manager? what about him, reckon they'd take a chance?

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:07 pm

Greavesie wrote:aren't our owners big fans of Porto's current manager? what about him, reckon they'd take a chance?

they tried to approach him after Roy left, but he said he was commited to the club until the summer at the very least.

Will they approach him again? who knows...but the point of this thread is to raise the question and (in the rocess) bring some much needed debate back to this forum.

by **parchpea** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:19 pm

I doubt Mourhino or any of the so called elite managers will come without substantial funds but I get the impression we will have good money to invest this summer and we could now be in a position to attract excellent people to the job. Love or hate Mourhino, strip it all away, and the bottom line is any football club in the world would have him as coach, end of. Ive always thought that he would fancy the challenge here anyway but prob wrong! I just want the club to be successful and you need a top manager to achieve it really. If we take the heart and history out of it can we really say we have benefited from the very best managers in the last decade? Like one of the top 5 guys? probably not no.

by **kazza** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:25 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
jacdaniel wrote:Id be disgusted if Jose became Liverpool manager. We Could all forget about attacking football or the liverpool way. It would all die with his appointment

I disagree.

Chelsea hardly played boring football when he won the league here.

Well I disagree as Chelsea won most of their matches 1-0 and were boring as feck. He made a team of gorillas from the defence all the way through to attack. Their tactic was out muscle and they did it well. That was ugly football.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:29 pm

kazza wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
jacdaniel wrote:Id be disgusted if Jose became Liverpool manager. We Could all forget about attacking football or the liverpool way. It would all die with his appointment

I disagree.

Chelsea hardly played boring football when he won the league here.

Well I disagree as Chelsea won most of their matches 1-0 and were boring as feck. He made a team of gorillas from the defence all the way through to attack. Their tactic was out muscle and they did it well. That was ugly football.

We hardly played flowing football with Rafa, but no one complained.

Whoever comes, so long as the results roll in we'll be happy.

by **Ray Pugh** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:41 pm

Just watching the reserves with a few up and coming youngsters involved. I think Dalglish would be more likely to bring them through than Mourinho would

by **shabelle50** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:38 pm

I think the club is still in crisis on the field or near enough. Kenny has turned it round in terms of spirit and unity but I don't know if he's the man long term to even get us back to the top four. I don't subscribe to the view that it would have all been rosy if he'd been in charge all season. This is a poor squad of players that struggles badly with a couple of injuries.

The question is whether Comolli is prepared to come out and tell the board that there are alternatives to KK. I don't know if Rijkaard, Boas, Kloppe, Van Gaal or Coyle would be any good at Liverpool but I have a feeling that as risk as another outside appointment could be in the long term I wonder if it may be better than thinking KK is going to recreate the late 1980s next season.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:45 pm

Kenny is, and always will, be a legend. He's done a decent job, better than i expected from a guy who has been out of the game for a decade.

But if Andre Villas-Boas gave an indication he wanted the job, i'd take him in a shot, with Kenny upstairs

by **shabelle50** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:58 pm

Boas has only had one albeit impressive season at Porto. Is that enough to manage Liverpool? I don't know. Benitez won two titles in three years in Spain and didn't adjust to the premiership. I'd give Van Gaal a go maybe but it's been a while since his great spell at Ajax.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:09 pm

shabelle50 wrote:Boas has only had one albeit impressive season at Porto. Is that enough to manage Liverpool? I don't know. Benitez won two titles in three years in Spain and didn't adjust to the premiership. I'd give Van Gaal a go maybe but it's been a while since his great spell at Ajax.

Boas might be young, but he's had some of the best training in the game. He learned his trade under Bobby Robson at Porto, and then Mourhino at Porto, Chelsea and then Inter. He's managed a team in a relgation battle and title fight...he's going to be the next great thing.

As you can tell, i rate the lad

by **shabelle50** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:17 pm

7_Kewell I admire your confidence in Boas. He could be great but this summer? He's still only 33. Coyle hasn't managed a top club but his teams play football and he's got experience of the premiership.

I'm not sure there is an ideal candidate in all honesty so I'd be willing to give a 33 year old from Portugal a go if Comolli thinks he's up to it.

The problem with this unswerving support for KK to get the job is I fear that the debate about how we go into this situation through Rafa and Hodgson may get missed. I also wonder how the fans will react next season if KK can't turn it round.

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