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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:47 pm

LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

If Joe Cole is underperforming it is purely down to him. He is a seasoned Premiership and international professional footballer and knows whats expected and how to do it.
No excuses whatsoever
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:00 pm

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LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

If Joe Cole is underperforming it is purely down to him. He is a seasoned Premiership and international professional footballer and knows whats expected and how to do it.
No excuses whatsoever

Just could have had it broken more gently ,that he was actually adopted and is not Roy's by birth  :D
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:02 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
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LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

If Joe Cole is underperforming it is purely down to him. He is a seasoned Premiership and international professional footballer and knows whats expected and how to do it.
No excuses whatsoever

Just could have had it broken more gently ,that he was actually adopted and is not Roy's by birth  :D

Haha
Just in case the little cherub gets upset and plays even worseser
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:08 pm

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LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

If Joe Cole is underperforming it is purely down to him. He is a seasoned Premiership and international professional footballer and knows whats expected and how to do it.
No excuses whatsoever

It's a bit of both, mate, and you know that as well because you've said it yourself. Players owe it to the club and its supporters to give it their all, but equaly it's part of the manager's job to ensure that happens.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:11 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
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LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

If Joe Cole is underperforming it is purely down to him. He is a seasoned Premiership and international professional footballer and knows whats expected and how to do it.
No excuses whatsoever

It's a bit of both, mate, and you know that as well because you've said it yourself. Players owe it to the club and its supporters to give it their all, but equaly it's part of the manager's job to ensure that happens.

As Ive said, good if it works...
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:26 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:To be honest mate Ive grown used to our dirty linen being hung out in public.
Gone are the days when everything was kept "in house"
If it works, good. If it doesnt its yet another reason for Roy to go

You would have to go back to those halcyon days when a manager would be expected to keep any player disputes or personal ones to the confines of the club  ....
It seems many of the traits associated with this once Great club have now perished mate ..... in all but the memories of fans who remember when the name of Liverpool Football Club was spoken only in revered tones
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Postby tommycockles » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:42 pm

i've not said anything negative about Roy to date but i really wish he'd stop slating the players in public. He comes across very amateurish and looking for someone other than himself to blame. If we were top of the league then he may have something to back it up but we aren't!

Keep it shut Roy or please move on and give our club its respect back!
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Postby maguskwt » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:54 am

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
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RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:It was this particular passage that I thought could have been worded considerably better
Daily Express 23rd Dec
 

“It’s a difficult one for me to answer,” said Hodgson. “I was involved in the discussions with him, but the initiative and the desire to take Joe did come from Christian Purslow, [then managing director] perhaps more so than myself because I wasn’t in the position to say these are the players we should be targeting ,as I hadn’t been offered the job at that point.
“He’s not so much a player I can take responsibility for. I’d have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than people like Poulsen, Meireles and Konchesky, who are players I was happy to bring to the club.

He is really starting to annoy the f uck out of me now ......... how much longer can this club suffer the indignity of sheltering this condescending arrogant man ....every minute he is here he discredits the club ,the players, and the fans with his ill advised outbursts
the fans really need to know that he is still happy and has no reservations about bringing Poulson ,and Konchesky ,and yet he wouldn't have taken  Cole........

He might be trying to wind him up to get a positive "I'll show you" response.
Hopefully...

I am sure you will agree Thommo ,that there are better ways to go about delivering the proverbial boot up the rip ..than plastering it all over the pages of the tabloids .....seriously this is indefensible Lad

It's feckin unprofessional... That's all I can say...
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Postby Igor Zidane » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:02 am

LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

Cole was a purslow signing . Hodgson had no choice in the matter it was sorted before he was manager .

As for hodgson slagging cole in the press , not right atall . By all means tear him to pieces in private but not in the press.
UP THE PURPS !!!
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Postby devaney » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:10 am

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LFC2007 wrote:When someone posted up an article claiming that Purslow had given Roy a list of players he would get rid of, some people took it to be completely believable (aha! he's been interfering! didn't we tell you), so why is it any less believable that he "initiated" the Cole signing? Pretty much all throughout the summer people on here were telling us that Purslow was conducting our transfer business.  ???

Cole was a purslow signing . Hodgson had no choice in the matter it was sorted before he was manager .

As for hodgson slagging cole in the press , not right atall . By all means tear him to pieces in private but not in the press.

Maybe so but Hodgson milked the signing for all it was worth and certainly gave the impression to the media that he was heavily involved in the transfer, as initially it looked like the sort of signing that contributed towards keeping Gerrard and Torres at Liverpool. Personally I didn't believe that as no acceptable offers had come forward for either player. And now because he is on skid row he is looking for any excuses he can find and that includes the totally unacceptable condemnation of players via the media.

I am at the end of my tether with Hodgson but I make no apologies for not joining in the childish abuse which frankly doesn't make us a lot better than him! THE SOONER HE GOES THE BETTER. Honestly couldn't see Sammy Lee doing a worse job as a temporary replacement. Hodgson if he wasn't before is becoming a very serious embarrassment and that must not be allowed to continue given that he is the public face of LFC.
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Postby stmichael » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:49 pm

the irony of people having an argument with each other about why this place has gone downhill whilst airing in public a pathetic petty argument is quite staggering.

listen please stick to the subject in hand and stop the abuse and point scoring please. it's utterly pointless and to be quite frank i've got more important things to be doing today than clearing up all your cr@p.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:57 pm

Liverpool Echo, Christmas Eve

IT WAS a desperate afternoon which underlined just how far the mighty had fallen.

Liverpool were outplayed and outfought as newly promoted Blackpool deservedly toasted an historic victory.

Sunday, October 3 will live long in the memory for all the wrong reasons – the day when frustration and despair poured down from the Anfield stands.

Having seen their side slump at Old Trafford and then meekly bow out of the Carling Cup against Northampton, for many it was too much to take.

Supporters vented their fury at owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett, while underfire boss Roy Hodgson shuffled uneasily as the Kop chanted for Kenny Dalglish.

Defeat left the Reds marooned in the relegation zone with just six points from their opening seven games – their worst start to a campaign for over half a century.

Twelve weeks on Liverpool face the Tangerines again at Bloomfield Road on Boxing Day and the question is what’s changed?

The takeover by Fenway Sports Group, which was completed 12 days after that defeat, has provided some much needed stability off the pitch but on it Hodgson is still searching for answers.

He may have dragged the Reds up to the dizzy heights of ninth but with his side dogged by inconsistency fans are restless and the pressure on his shoulders has barely eased.

Hodgson doesn’t hide the fact that autumn defeat still hurts but he insists Liverpool are now a very different proposition compared to those dark October days.

“It was certainly a low point,” he said. “We were expected to waltz all over this new comer and not only did we not do that but we ended up losing the game after a very good performance from them.
“It was very disappointing but I’d remind you that it was our third game in the space of a week and our performance reflected that.

“Take nothing away from Blackpool, they beat us fair and square but we went into that game more tired than I gave the players credit for.

“I don’t know if that was anything like a watershed as far as we are concerned but over the course of time we have improved our play.

“I know it won’t be as easy for Blackpool to get their three points in this game as it maybe was in that game. We gave them a two goal start and found it very hard to pull it back.

“The club is more settled since the takeover and I think we have got better as a team since then with all the work we have put in. Results will make a liar or a truthful man out of me.”

Despite the embarrassment of Blackpool’s first win at Anfield since 1967, there will be no mention of revenge in Hodgson’s team talk.

“Some people will use the word revenge because having lost to them at home you want to make certain they suffer a home defeat so you get your share of points from them over the course of the season,” he said. “If we draw or lose they will have taken more points from us than we have from them and that won't be a situation that pleases us.

“But I won't talk about revenge. I’ll just talk about what we need to do to win the game and the word revenge doesn't come into my vocabulary. I think revenge is a word that belongs in Mafia circles.”

Ian Holloway’s side have won many admirers so far this season with their fearless brand of attacking football.

They go into the festive period level on points with Liverpool with a game in hand and Hodgson believes their progress underlines how hotly-contested the Premier League is this season.
“Teams who come up to the Premier League now are ready for the challenges,” he said. “The league is getting tougher and tighter. It’s unpredictable and you are no longer sure who the top four are going to be and who the obvious relegation candidates are going to be.

“That can only be good for football in general but it adds further pressure to those of us working in football, especially if you are at a top club.

“The number of teams you can look at and say ‘these won't make life difficult for us’ has always been fairly small and now it's been reduced to zero.

“Since Blackpool beat us at Anfield I’ve watched them play live twice and on both occasions I’ve been very impressed. It made it more obvious to me that they weren’t fluky at Anfield.

“They play good football and have a lot of good players. Their position in the table is a tribute to what they have done so far this season. They have proved they are capable of beating us but we need to turn the tables on them.”

If the game beats the freezing conditions it will be Liverpool’s first visit to Bloomfield Road since 1970 and Hodgson is desperate to ensure the Reds bounce back from their 3-1 defeat at Newcastle a fortnight ago.

The postponement of last weekend’s clash with Fulham has given the boss plenty of time to dwell on events at St James’ Park which extended their miserable away record.

In 2010 Liverpool have won just two out of 18 league trips and if Hodgson’s side fail to beat Blackpool they will equal the third worst calendar year for away league wins in the club’s history.

“We’re aware that in 2010 the away form has been very poor and that’s something we need to address in 2011,” he added. “As a coaching staff we are very analytical, organised and prepared. We discuss everything. Are travel preparations right? Are we staying in the right place? Are we leaving early enough?

“But it's not an exact science. Players can go out with the right mental attitude and play badly. Being prepared and wanting to do well doesn't always give you the victory.

“We had a good win at Bolton which is a difficult place to win at and we were unlucky not to get a draw or win at Spurs. We have proved we are capable of playing well away.”
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Postby mkingdom » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:18 pm

This is a farce, and Roy (yet again) looks like an ar$e.

So, he is moaning that he didn't bring Cole to the club, but is proud to claim that he did bring Konchesky and Poulsen, two of the worst players ever to wear the shirt!!

He also claims Mereilles was his, when it is common knowledge that he was being linked when Rafa was still here.

How terrible Roy that you had to endure a proven (league title winning) England International coming into the squad (for no fee), when instead you could have inflicted more players like Konchesky and Poulsen instead.

Why don't you sell Joe Cole so you can bring in Bobby Zamora and bring Carlton Palmer out of retirement.

Jesus this guy should never give another press conference again....not as LFC manager anyway.

He has now slagged off Cole, and failed to publically support Torres when SAF called him a cheat.....Konchesky can however do no wrong in his eyes.

He'll be slagging off Gerrard and Carra next for having the cheek to get injured!!
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Postby Penguins » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:27 pm

Oh my, so not even Cole was his signing.

But Poulsen and Konschesky he is proud to announce he wasted 10 million on....
2 Fulham players that have signed for Liverpool  :no

We won't get back 5 of those 10....
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:43 pm

Penguins wrote:Oh my, so not even Cole was his signing.

But Poulsen and Konschesky he is proud to announce he wasted 10 million on....
2 Fulham players that have signed for Liverpool  :no

We won't get back 5 of those 10....

Poulson was from Juventus mate.
Konchesky was the only Fulham signing.
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