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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:09 pm

Yep it was , who knows what would of happened its all opinions and mine is he would be doing a better job than Hodgson , I know people will disagree but that's what you get with opinions .
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Postby only me » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:10 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:How is my post about managers who I think can do a better job showing I lack integrity or show hatred or contempt ? I don't think Hodgson is good enough , I think we have a first 11 good enough to get into top 4 as shown in games against Chelsea ,Arsenal etc and I think those managers I names would all set the team up better and use better tactics that both suit the players and play to the strengths of our top players.

And i think that anyone ,including yourself ,that thinks we have a top 4 squad or even 11 is totally delusional and doesn't know football! Harsh i know but that's how i feel. Arsenal ,Chelsea ,Manu ,ManCiti ,Totenham are so far away from us it's emberrasing. And if you can't spot that you are lacking basic understanding of the game.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:13 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Yep it was , who knows what would of happened its all opinions and mine is he would be doing a better job than Hodgson , I know people will disagree but that's what you get with opinions .

of course it is all about opinions, but there isnt much to suggest Rafa would have done any better.
The way his results have gone since are a further indication of the fact that he appears to be a manager in decline.
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:14 pm

rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:14 pm

Well we drew against Arsenal , beat Chelsea and just narrowly lost to Spurs and Man utd and they are also currently losing games so I would suggest we aren't that far away - it's even more fustrating that they all keep slipping up and we don't take advantage of it .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:16 pm

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Benny The Noon wrote:Yep it was , who knows what would of happened its all opinions and mine is he would be doing a better job than Hodgson , I know people will disagree but that's what you get with opinions .

of course it is all about opinions, but there isnt much to suggest Rafa would have done any better.
The way his results have gone since are a further indication of the fact that he appears to be a manager in decline.

I don't know what is going on at inter - heard different things and reasons why its not working but I'm not going to use it as evidence that he is a poor manager . Only have to look at each managers respective cv and history and results and its clear which one is better and has a better record .
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Postby only me » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

Rafa didn't underacheive ,he complied a squad of mediocre work horses and ripped exactly it. Don't suger coat it. Rafa thought Genious tactics are good enough to compete even if you have limited players ,guess what? you can't. And Roy and that is a fact has inherited this mix of untalented players.That is a fact. He might be over is head ,he probably is ,but he is playing with cards which aren't his.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:20 pm

So Rafa now didn't underachieve last season ? Well that goes against everything been spouted last season when the previous manager was crucified for under achieving and when everyone was saying we should of got into the CL as we were good enough but the manager was at fault ? Record has changed I see .
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:20 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

i agree with what you are saying about Roy totally. Its just a pity people like you didnt use the same rationale last season.
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:22 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:I don't know what is going on at inter - heard different things and reasons why its not working but I'm not going to use it as evidence that he is a poor manager.

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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:25 pm

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Emerald Red wrote:
rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

Rafa didn't underacheive ,he complied a squad of mediocre work horses and ripped exactly it. Don't suger coat it. Rafa thought Genious tactics are good enough to compete even if you have limited players ,guess what? you can't. And Roy and that is a fact has inherited this mix of untalented players.That is a fact. He might be over is head ,he probably is ,but he is playing with cards which aren't his.

Look, fella, that's not my opinion: that was the opinion of most on here that wanted him gone, the press, and more importantly the board of the club. In their opinion, he should have gotten fourth, now all of a sudden, there's egg on faces and the shoe is on the other foot so things get twisted about. Now, you say he compiled a squad full of mediocricy? Well, to that I will say, if this is indeed a fact, then Rafa must really be a miracle worker for getting us competing for the topmost honours in Europe and at home. Which is it, mate? Either the squad was good and Rafa was sh*t; or Rafa was genious and the squad was terrible? Can't be one or the other. Benitez underachieved last season. If you can't agree with that, then you're a bit dense, because any level-headed Red knows that he did. There was also the small inconvenience of the board and the owners last year. Roy Hodgson does not have that on his plate. He is working with relatively little pressure compared to Benitez, who having came so close to the title in the previous year, had to push on and win it or at least equal the feat. Roy does not have this pressure. All Roy was tasked with was improve the form of the side, and get them to fourth and at minimum improve over 7th. Since when was 4th a requirement at best?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:25 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:I don't know what is going on at inter - heard different things and reasons why its not working but I'm not going to use it as evidence that he is a poor manager.

This sky is not blue.

Isnt it ? Wow must tell my old geography teacher then
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Postby rocky29 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:25 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

he derserves more time unless the owners are gona spend big in january then theres no point getting rid of roy until the summer.
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:27 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

i agree with what you are saying about Roy totally. Its just a pity people like you didnt use the same rationale last season.

I was very rational last season. Under normal circumstances, I'd have been hugely critical.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:28 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
rocky29 wrote:please tell me which manager in the entire world could make this current squad into a top 3 prem team. Roy never buit this squad he just inherited it.

It's funny how people were gurning about the previous manager underachieving with this squad last year. It's funny how the previous manager was outted for that very reason, that failing to get into the CL with this squad was deemed unacceptable. It's funny how he was supposedly sacked for those footballing reasons. What's even funnier is that people like yourself, and those in the media are now saying that it's a very poor squad Roy enherited.

Poor Roy. He was so overstaffed he had to let a few players that he could do with now go for nout on loan. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad of the likes he's never had in his entire 35 years worth of vast and illustrious experience. Poor Roy for enheriting a squad briming with international players, a side that had more playing in the recent World Cup than any other the world over. Clearly, these players are not good enough to string more than one or two away wins together, and top the likes of Newcastle and Blackpool, who of which are directly in our competition of current.

There's only so many times you can blame the squad before the sh*t doesn't stick. It hasn't stuck since day one. If Benitez underachieved (which he did without question) with this squad last season and got the jing for failing to get fourth spot, then the rules have been set. Hodgson had to get fourth or bust. On the evidence of how he has us playing and our form, that went out the window in October. People said give him 10 games, then 10 games came and no improvement,. Then they said give him 5 more games. 5 games came and gone and he got a few results against poor teams at home and that satisfied the naive until we get thumped again away. The same people then say judge him at Christmas.

Well, it's Christmas now. We're in limbo in the league with a minus goal difference with absolutely no sign that he can improve the way we play. I'll bet those of you who back Roy to the hilt without knowing why expected a comfortable win against Newcastle seeing that he had us playing so well, eh?

Get Rid. Get rid now before it's too late. Get Dalglish in at least until the end of the season, and if the players can't perform under him, well, at least we'll know who the devoted ones are to the shirt.

he derserves more time unless the owners are gona spend big in january then theres no point getting rid of roy until the summer.

Why does he deserve more time ?
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