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metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What happens when we come up against a Man City or a Chelsea who play 3 in the middle ? We tried 442 against City and got destroyed in the middle due to their numerical advantage ?

I don't believe in this numerical advantage, its 11 vs 11, so in the end its fair. What matters is the players we play and who gets the best out of who.

If you had a 4-4-2 team with Zidane and Gerrard in the middle, Torres and Tevez strikers, you would sh*t on any team even if the other team has 6 or 7 playing in midfield.

You just need the balance

dawson99 wrote:some 'fans' on here are never happy. we could have had 5, they could have had 5.. our strikers didnt do the business

lets move to our next few games

Benny The Noon wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What happens when we come up against a Man City or a Chelsea who play 3 in the middle ? We tried 442 against City and got destroyed in the middle due to their numerical advantage ?

play gerrard as 2nd striker, and give him the free role. He can then move into midfield if needed.

Not going to disagree with that at all - that is the way it should be - change your formation to suit the way the oppo plays as opposed to being home or away .

of course you need flexibility but I really do think that with the personnel we have and until we find another Xabi Alonso we need to play 4-4-2 but that means we need 2 strikers and at the moment we only have one hit and miss one plus Eggnog who is scared of damaging his pretty little face, WTF was he thinking jumping up in the air with his hands above his head, he needs to be getting a serious bollocking for that. 

dawson99 wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What happens when we come up against a Man City or a Chelsea who play 3 in the middle ? We tried 442 against City and got destroyed in the middle due to their numerical advantage ?

play gerrard as 2nd striker, and give him the free role. He can then move into midfield if needed.

Not going to disagree with that at all - that is the way it should be - change your formation to suit the way the oppo plays as opposed to being home or away .

benny, youve seen our next 6 or so league games.. no reason why we shouldnt win them all.. if it does go wrong, we need new manager i say, if he does well, let him mould the team a bit in january

worcester_red wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What happens when we come up against a Man City or a Chelsea who play 3 in the middle ? We tried 442 against City and got destroyed in the middle due to their numerical advantage ?

play gerrard as 2nd striker, and give him the free role. He can then move into midfield if needed.

Not going to disagree with that at all - that is the way it should be - change your formation to suit the way the oppo plays as opposed to being home or away .

of course you need flexibility but I really do think that with the personnel we have and until we find another Xabi Alonso we need to play 4-4-2 but that means we need 2 strikers and at the moment we only have one hit and miss one plus Eggnog who is scared of damaging his pretty little face, WTF was he thinking jumping up in the air with his hands above his head, he needs to be getting a serious bollocking for that. 

Benny The Noon wrote:

worcester_red wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What happens when we come up against a Man City or a Chelsea who play 3 in the middle ? We tried 442 against City and got destroyed in the middle due to their numerical advantage ?

play gerrard as 2nd striker, and give him the free role. He can then move into midfield if needed.

Not going to disagree with that at all - that is the way it should be - change your formation to suit the way the oppo plays as opposed to being home or away .

of course you need flexibility but I really do think that with the personnel we have and until we find another Xabi Alonso we need to play 4-4-2 but that means we need 2 strikers and at the moment we only have one hit and miss one plus Eggnog who is scared of damaging his pretty little face, WTF was he thinking jumping up in the air with his hands above his head, he needs to be getting a serious bollocking for that. 

He made a mistake - it happened and we move on , he isnt the first player playing for us that has fecked up . In the end no damage was done from his mistake .

Benny The Noon wrote:Its more than that mate - we have seen it plenty of times where a team playing 442 just doesnt get hold of the ball because the midfield is flooded with the oppo . Its how the smaller teams get results against the big boys - you need to match them . If we had an extra midfielder against city i bet the game would of been so much more different .

metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Its more than that mate - we have seen it plenty of times where a team playing 442 just doesnt get hold of the ball because the midfield is flooded with the oppo . Its how the smaller teams get results against the big boys - you need to match them . If we had an extra midfielder against city i bet the game would of been so much more different .

Mancs play 4-4-2, they usually play with 2 strikers, and have done it for now, they played against us 4-4-2, while we had 4-5-1, and they won. They are also at the top of the league and not lost a single game while playing that system. Thats because they have the players who can hold the ball and pass it. Like I said dude, you need really good players who can keep the ball, pass it around and don't waste possession. We are short in that department, we don't have the balance to play 4-4-2 (which I agree that it would be better to play 4-5-1 against the big boys), but my argument is, once we get another top class striker and wingers who can bring balance into the team, play Meireles and Gerrard in the middle with two strikers and we can do really well!

dawson99 wrote:i give up... im not flaming ben, as usual you're being a dip. it was a great game that could have gone either way if it were not for the strikers... this shouldnt be in the roy thread, he did right for the game

Benny The Noon wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Lets not forget we blocked a shot of theirs on the line , they could of easily had another penalty as well as missing one so cant really say we should of won it easily if we had taken our chances , they had plenty , more than us on target . A draw would of been the fair result .

The thing is, if we put Maxi's chance away, it would have been really difficult for them to get back (we are not Arsenal), The chances we had were wasted by the daftness of our players, while Tottenham's chances were actually stopped by a world class block by Carragher, and Meireles' block. Maxi just f*cked up his chance himself!

True mate - but i do worry when someone says we were brilliant yesterday - has our standards dropped that low now ?

Benny The Noon wrote:

dawson99 wrote:i give up... im not flaming ben, as usual you're being a dip. it was a great game that could have gone either way if it were not for the strikers... this shouldnt be in the roy thread, he did right for the game

some 'fans' on here are never happy

Dawson - coming storming into the middle of the thread while people are having a decent debate does nothing but add more fuel .