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Dundalk wrote:I said from the start I would give Roy until Christmas at least, I see it as only fair. That said things are not looking good for him at the moment. He has lost the majority of the fans and that in itself will be hard to get back. Some of the football we have been playing recently has been unacceptable and its hard to take as a Liverpool fan watching your team take a beating against Stoke City and losing at home to Blackpool. On the other hand, we were fantastic in the first half against Chelsea and at times this season have showed what we can do.

I think Roy will see Christmas as Liverpool manager, in fact I think he will be here at the end of the season. Listening to our owners comments today regarding bringing in players in the summer, Roy will get to the end of the season to prove he can do the job and if, in the the owners eyes he can, he will be given the money to spend in the summer. If however he has a poor second half to the season he will not be trusted with that money and a new man will be brought in. Mr Henry comments today seemed to indicate that their will not be much spent in January, and that being the case, Roy will be kept on as at the very least a stop gap until someone else comes in and that wont be until the summer.

The club is in a strange period in its history, after the disaster that was Hicks and Gillett is can hopefully look forward to a promising future under NESV. But at the moment thanks to the transfer windows we are stuck in limbo with a lot of ordinary players and a manager that a lot of the clubs supporters dont want. Well let me tell you that this limbo is going to go on for a long time yet and although January is coming it isnt going to make much of a difference, so expect much of the same until the summer. What I mean by that is we ARE going to lose more games and we ARE still going to argue and fall out with each other because at the moment there is a big divide. Things are not going to change overnight and we are in for a bumpy ride before it starts to run smoother.

Whats upset me most is the way that some of our fans have behaved during all of this. Im not talking about anyone in particular on here, I seen it on loads of different forums and from Liverpool supporting mates. If as a fan you dont like Roy then fair enough. If you want Roy out then fair enough. If you didn't want Roy appointed in the first place then fair enough. But why fans have to ridicule the man, call him names and make fun of his looks, his personality and his age is beyond me! Ive never really heard of the Manchester way or the Chelsea way. I have however like thousands of other people heard of the Liverpool way which sadly is dying more and more each day. We are known as knowledgeable fans but unfortunelty we are becoming like all the rest. We are no different these days to Newcastle or Spurs fans. We want success and we want it yesterday. Not stopping to see the bigger picture that a major rebuild is needed. Hicks and Gillett killed the Liverpool way nearly overnight but what is left of it, a lot of the current Liverpool fanbase are finishing it off.

Reg wrote:Liverpool must wait until summer for squad overhaul, warns John W Henry

• Liverpool owner stresses long-term remedy to problems
• John W Henry says blaming manager is 'wrong'

Monday 15 November 2010

Liverpool's principal owner, John W Henry, said the team needed a long-term strategy for developing players.

Liverpool's principal owner, John W Henry, has warned that there will be no quick-fix to the club's problems and that it is likely to be next summer before New England Sports Ventures can improve the first-team squad.

Disillusionment at Anfield has not dispersed since NESV completed its £300m takeover last month. Supporters turned on the manager, Roy Hodgson, following Saturday's 2-0 defeat at Stoke and key players have questioned the direction of the club. In an interview with a supporters' website, Red And White Kop, Henry says it is "simply wrong" to blame the manager for the malaise at Liverpool and up to the squad to sustain the form that beat Chelsea only last weekend.

Liverpool are looking at transfer targets for January – Hodgson watched the Rennes midfielder Yann M'Vila against Auxerre yesterday – but Henry says the overhaul at Anfield will be a long-term process, with emphasis on improving the output from the club's youth academy.

"The club has gone through a very difficult period and the period has not ended," the Liverpool owner said. "We saw a certain team on the field against Chelsea last week that showed what they can do. We also know how competitive the EPL is this year. There are no guaranteed matches any longer for any club. This club can be better. Blaming the manager or any one particular player is simply wrong. This club needs to play up to their potential every match. If they don't, they won't win.

"That said, we have work to do and must invest in this club to improve it on the field. Can that be successfully done in January? A number of people I've talked with doubt it. Most people seem to think it will be the summer before we can really begin to improve. So the players – all 11 each week – have to be on the same page every match and have to live up to the history and respect this club has engendered – no matter what."

Damien Comolli, recently appointed by NESV as Liverpool's first director of football strategy, said today: "As I've just joined, we've got only a few weeks to prepare for the window but we are also looking at the summer transfer window. That's what I would call short-term but then long-term we are already looking at things like the pre-season tour for next season [and] we are already looking at the academy to see what we can improve."

Henry confirmed his support for the changes made at youth level last summer, when Frank McParland returned to the club as academy director and appointed two former Barcelona youth coaches, José Segura and Rodolfo Borrell, with a view to replicating the Spanish champions' production line. "We need 'top four' young players," Henry said. "They will not produce a quick fix but our philosophy in football will be based on the long-term. That is what has made Arsenal and Manchester United so strong. They understand something we understand in Boston – to be consistently strong on the field you must have a consistent flow of young talent that has been nurtured and developed the right way. We will focus on that. That is also the philosophy of Damien Comolli."

However, Henry accepts that an approach designed to "solve the problems that have plagued the club for some time now" may not appease players anxious for honours in the near future.

He said: "I've met with a number of our players and had private discussions with some of them. I've been greatly impressed by them personally. They are all exceptionally bright and they all want to be here. The question they have had, rightfully so, is whether or not the club is going to go in the right direction. They all want to see that. I have been very forthright about our philosophy and about what we are going to try to achieve. Some would prefer a quick fix. Others prefer to focus on the long-term and that is very difficult for most players."
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Ciggy wrote:Through owl features Ive bever felt so low until this, words from a Fulham fan BTW eccentric old fool since he took over.(A Fulham fan said this BTW )

Kharhaz wrote:

Ciggy wrote:Through owl features Ive bever felt so low until this, words from a Fulham fan BTW eccentric old fool since he took over.(A Fulham fan said this BTW )

But he got Fulham to a UEFA cup final.

I dont get it... A Fulham fan doesnt like success? which Roy delivered to Fulham?


... again, I dont get it.

Ciggy wrote:

Kharhaz wrote:

Ciggy wrote:Through owl features Ive bever felt so low until this, words from a Fulham fan BTW eccentric old fool since he took over.(A Fulham fan said this BTW )

But he got Fulham to a UEFA cup final.

I dont get it... A Fulham fan doesnt like success? which Roy delivered to Fulham?


... again, I dont get it.

The Fulham fan says he cannot believe his bahviour and he is an eccentric old fool and is making Liverpool a complete laughing stock.

I know that why dont you?

Kharhaz wrote:I cannot understand why a Fulham fan is feeling depressed over an ex manager and how he is doing at his new club.

I tend to concentrate on my club.

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:He gets nothing Girl ...he ridiculed S.O.S ...he didn't get Benitez
He doesn't get Scousers ....and he doesn't get tickets for games
HE DOESN'T GET IT  but outside of this forum he really would and that's probably why he's safer in his room   

Ciggy wrote:

Kharhaz wrote:I cannot understand why a Fulham fan is feeling depressed over an ex manager and how he is doing at his new club.

I tend to concentrate on my club.

Fuck my life have you read the rafa topic in the last two days, he has murdered their wives, killed their children and has their nans locked up for the ransom money come on now lets get feckin real for once.

and he's cancelled their subscription to Star Trek weekly