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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:09 am

NANNY RED wrote:Stop arguing with each other about stupid things  . were all on a ceasefire at the mo until Sunday ,

:laugh:  Dammit !
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:12 am

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NANNY RED wrote:Stop arguing with each other about stupid things  . were all on a ceasefire at the mo until Sunday ,

Right you are (as always)
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:14 am

Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Stop arguing with each other about stupid things  . were all on a ceasefire at the mo until Sunday ,

:laugh:  Dammit !

it could be broken though between now an then , if he comes out with any more sh,ite, and if i find out hes playing Poulson :laugh:
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Postby glenbuck patriot » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:20 am

Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:No fisticuff's intented,JUST THIS, If anyone on this Forum can Justify Roy Hodgson's tenure thus far,

He was brought in to replace Rafa.

He was brought in to a club severely in debt.

He didn't ask Liverpool to approach him.

He didn't ask to have mediocre players.

He didn't ask our best players to under perform.

He didn't ask mascherano to leave.

He wasn't responsible for the World Cup during pre season preparation.

He isn't responsible for the youth team he is relying on to balance the fixtures.

What exactly are you looking for?

Point 1 Concede
Point 2 Concede
Haven't Got Mediocre Players, Sent more Players to World Cup Than any other Premiership Team!
Players Perform to the Wants/Needs of the Manager & his Tactic's. (Just because Roy's are :censored: don't blame the players)
Mascherano had given the club 12 Month's notice he was leaving, he'd have left even if Jose Mouhrino was the Manager, Roy being appointed just hastened his departure!
World Cup; Got me on that one however, Chelsea,Barca, Real Madrid, City et al aren't doing so badly and they had six or more players at the competition!

Mediocre Players, I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply that LFC garnered more players than any other in the EPL to the World Cup!

The Youth Team yeah, under Rafa won the Youth Cup Two times out of three, the Reserves won the Reserve Trophey for the whole of the league, under Rafa's tenure as well, yeah you have to say with thier record they too are totally :censored:!

Final point was "What are we looking for"?

Well in response to this, and it's very simple LFC!, pass and move, even in our heyday, we didn't have the best players in every position, but we played with belief, with vigour, pace, passion and control, we dominated team's, we had a belief we couldn't be beaten, we had a verve, a swagger, confidence, and probably more than anything, a determination not to be beaten!, these where the fundamental things Shankly built that we're then carried on.
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:29 am

glenbuck patriot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:No fisticuff's intented,JUST THIS, If anyone on this Forum can Justify Roy Hodgson's tenure thus far,

He was brought in to replace Rafa.

He was brought in to a club severely in debt.

He didn't ask Liverpool to approach him.

He didn't ask to have mediocre players.

He didn't ask our best players to under perform.

He didn't ask mascherano to leave.

He wasn't responsible for the World Cup during pre season preparation.

He isn't responsible for the youth team he is relying on to balance the fixtures.

What exactly are you looking for?

Point 1 Concede
Point 2 Concede
Haven't Got Mediocre Players, Sent more Players to World Cup Than any other Premiership Team!
Players Perform to the Wants/Needs of the Manager & his Tactic's. (Just because Roy's are :censored: don't blame the players)
Mascherano had given the club 12 Month's notice he was leaving, he'd have left even if Jose Mouhrino was the Manager, Roy being appointed just hastened his departure!
World Cup; Got me on that one however, Chelsea,Barca, Real Madrid, City et al aren't doing so badly and they had six or more players at the competition!

Mediocre Players, I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply that LFC garnered more players than any other in the EPL to the World Cup!

The Youth Team yeah, under Rafa won the Youth Cup Two times out of three, the Reserves won the Reserve Trophey for the whole of the league, under Rafa's tenure as well, yeah you have to say with thier record they too are totally :censored:!

Final point was "What are we looking for"?

Well in response to this, and it's very simple LFC!, pass and move, even in our heyday, we didn't have the best players in every position, but we played with belief, with vigour, pace, passion and control, we dominated team's, we had a belief we couldn't be beaten, we had a verve, a swagger, confidence, and probably more than anything, a determination not to be beaten!, these where the fundamental things Shankly built that we're then carried on.

Haven't Got Mediocre Players, Sent more Players to World Cup Than any other Premiership Team!


How many actually played?

Players Perform to the Wants/Needs of the Manager & his Tactic's.


So why is Rafa hailed as a god and Roy is just simply awful?

Mascherano had given the club 12 Month's notice he was leaving, he'd have left even if Jose Mouhrino was the Manager, Roy being appointed just hastened his departure!


So Roy being appointed hastened it, but he would still have left even if we had appointed Mourinho? I cant help but feel the "its all Roys fault" vibe here.

World Cup; Got me on that one however, Chelsea,Barca, Real Madrid, City et al aren't doing so badly and they had six or more players at the competition!


They are all richer than Liverpool and have a wealth of other talent to call upon.
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Postby glenbuck patriot » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:40 am

Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:No fisticuff's intented,JUST THIS, If anyone on this Forum can Justify Roy Hodgson's tenure thus far,

He was brought in to replace Rafa.

He was brought in to a club severely in debt.

He didn't ask Liverpool to approach him.

He didn't ask to have mediocre players.

He didn't ask our best players to under perform.

He didn't ask mascherano to leave.

He wasn't responsible for the World Cup during pre season preparation.

He isn't responsible for the youth team he is relying on to balance the fixtures.

What exactly are you looking for?

Point 1 Concede
Point 2 Concede
Haven't Got Mediocre Players, Sent more Players to World Cup Than any other Premiership Team!
Players Perform to the Wants/Needs of the Manager & his Tactic's. (Just because Roy's are :censored: don't blame the players)
Mascherano had given the club 12 Month's notice he was leaving, he'd have left even if Jose Mouhrino was the Manager, Roy being appointed just hastened his departure!
World Cup; Got me on that one however, Chelsea,Barca, Real Madrid, City et al aren't doing so badly and they had six or more players at the competition!

Mediocre Players, I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply that LFC garnered more players than any other in the EPL to the World Cup!

The Youth Team yeah, under Rafa won the Youth Cup Two times out of three, the Reserves won the Reserve Trophey for the whole of the league, under Rafa's tenure as well, yeah you have to say with thier record they too are totally :censored:!

Final point was "What are we looking for"?

Well in response to this, and it's very simple LFC!, pass and move, even in our heyday, we didn't have the best players in every position, but we played with belief, with vigour, pace, passion and control, we dominated team's, we had a belief we couldn't be beaten, we had a verve, a swagger, confidence, and probably more than anything, a determination not to be beaten!, these where the fundamental things Shankly built that we're then carried on.

Haven't Got Mediocre Players, Sent more Players to World Cup Than any other Premiership Team!


How many actually played?

Players Perform to the Wants/Needs of the Manager & his Tactic's.


So why is Rafa hailed as a god and Roy is just simply awful?

Mascherano had given the club 12 Month's notice he was leaving, he'd have left even if Jose Mouhrino was the Manager, Roy being appointed just hastened his departure!


So Roy being appointed hastened it, but he would still have left even if we had appointed Mourinho? I cant help but feel the "its all Roys fault" vibe here.

World Cup; Got me on that one however, Chelsea,Barca, Real Madrid, City et al aren't doing so badly and they had six or more players at the competition!


They are all richer than Liverpool and have a wealth of other talent to call upon.

We're obviously gonna agree to disagree, but you still have not told me why Hodgson is the right choice to lead us to Champions League Qualification, or even Europa League Qualification!, if you can do that siting reason's why, i'll bow down to your infinate football knowledge!

If you can't as I fully expect you not to, Momma is gonna paint your @rse blue just for the sake of it..... the Forum is ALL YOUR'S NOW BIG BOY LET'S HEAR YOUR DEFENSE OF ROY!
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:45 am

glenbuck patriot wrote:We're obviously gonna agree to diagree, but you still have not told me why Hodgson is the right choice to lead us to Champions League Qualification, or even Europa League Qualification!, if you can do that siting reason's why, i'll bow down to your infinate football knowledge!

If you can't as I fully expect you not to, Momma is gonna paint your @rse blue just for the sake of it..... the Forum is ALL YOUR'S NOW BIG BOY LET'S HEAR YOUR DEFENSE OF ROY!

Again, I never said he was. Read the "where will we finish" thread started by Dundalk. All I am saying is, Roy was never given the chance to turn it around. My arguments are in defence of Roy since he has been here, and not in why he should remain here.
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Postby glenbuck patriot » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:04 am

Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:We're obviously gonna agree to diagree, but you still have not told me why Hodgson is the right choice to lead us to Champions League Qualification, or even Europa League Qualification!, if you can do that siting reason's why, i'll bow down to your infinate football knowledge!

If you can't as I fully expect you not to, Momma is gonna paint your @rse blue just for the sake of it..... the Forum is ALL YOUR'S NOW BIG BOY LET'S HEAR YOUR DEFENSE OF ROY!

Again, I never said he was. Read the "where will we finish" thread started by Dundalk. All I am saying is, Roy was never given the chance to turn it around. My arguments are in defence of Roy since he has been here, and not in why he should remain here.

It's late, i'm bored, you've bored me with your inane defence of an indefencable Manager, I'll concede, it'll make you feel better, i won't be an Internet "Hardman" anymore.... your defence when someone questions you, they, suddenly become the aggressor, i'll be the "Internet Nice Man", yeah let's stick with Roy, lets get to the end of the season 16 Points away from safety, lets go to the old 1st Division, with the knowledge that if we Win it we'll have our name on the Trophey for the 19th Time, just as Wayne is kissing Utd's 19th Win and looking forward to Playing Jose in the FINAL, and then lets look back on this Forum, let's forget about Roy saying, we don't count, it's all about REAL people, and then let's remember about a few who told you it was going to be like this without change....But anyway that's a few years off to you and everything in the garden is Rosy!.........Yeah you fooking Moron it's Happening now but it's a five year Government so fu'ckem!

I truly pity you and the like's of you Kharhaz, you have no more idea than the Man in the Moon!
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:10 am

glenbuck patriot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:We're obviously gonna agree to diagree, but you still have not told me why Hodgson is the right choice to lead us to Champions League Qualification, or even Europa League Qualification!, if you can do that siting reason's why, i'll bow down to your infinate football knowledge!

If you can't as I fully expect you not to, Momma is gonna paint your @rse blue just for the sake of it..... the Forum is ALL YOUR'S NOW BIG BOY LET'S HEAR YOUR DEFENSE OF ROY!

Again, I never said he was. Read the "where will we finish" thread started by Dundalk. All I am saying is, Roy was never given the chance to turn it around. My arguments are in defence of Roy since he has been here, and not in why he should remain here.

It's late, i'm bored, you've bored me with your inane defence of an indefencable Manager, I'll concede, it'll make you feel better, i won't be an Internet "Hardman" anymore.... your defence when someone questions you, they, suddenly become the aggressor, i'll be the "Internet Nice Man", yeah let's stick with Roy, lets get to the end of the season 16 Points away from safety, lets go to the old 1st Division, with the knowledge that if we Win it we'll have our name on the Trophey for the 19th Time, just as Wayne is kissing Utd's 19th Win and looking forward to Playing Jose in the FINAL, and then lets look back on this Forum, let's forget about Roy saying, we don't count, it's all about REAL people, and then let's remember about a few who told you it was going to be like this without change....But anyway that's a few years off to you and everything in the garden is Rosy!.........Yeah you fooking Moron it's Happening now but it's a five year Government so fu'ckem!

I truly pity you and the like's of you Kharhaz, you have no more idea than the Man in the Moon!

???

I ... er...eh?
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Postby glenbuck patriot » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:27 am

Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:We're obviously gonna agree to diagree, but you still have not told me why Hodgson is the right choice to lead us to Champions League Qualification, or even Europa League Qualification!, if you can do that siting reason's why, i'll bow down to your infinate football knowledge!

If you can't as I fully expect you not to, Momma is gonna paint your @rse blue just for the sake of it..... the Forum is ALL YOUR'S NOW BIG BOY LET'S HEAR YOUR DEFENSE OF ROY!

Again, I never said he was. Read the "where will we finish" thread started by Dundalk. All I am saying is, Roy was never given the chance to turn it around. My arguments are in defence of Roy since he has been here, and not in why he should remain here.

It's late, i'm bored, you've bored me with your inane defence of an indefencable Manager, I'll concede, it'll make you feel better, i won't be an Internet "Hardman" anymore.... your defence when someone questions you, they, suddenly become the aggressor, i'll be the "Internet Nice Man", yeah let's stick with Roy, lets get to the end of the season 16 Points away from safety, lets go to the old 1st Division, with the knowledge that if we Win it we'll have our name on the Trophey for the 19th Time, just as Wayne is kissing Utd's 19th Win and looking forward to Playing Jose in the FINAL, and then lets look back on this Forum, let's forget about Roy saying, we don't count, it's all about REAL people, and then let's remember about a few who told you it was going to be like this without change....But anyway that's a few years off to you and everything in the garden is Rosy!.........Yeah you fooking Moron it's Happening now but it's a five year Government so fu'ckem!

I truly pity you and the like's of you Kharhaz, you have no more idea than the Man in the Moon!

???

I ... er...eh?

I, Er, Eh, pretty much some's your argument up.......


I, er, eh, I fooking give up with people like you on the Internet, make a point, make somebody out to be the "Bad" Guy" when your asked an intelligent question, you get...........

I, Er, Eh

You Couldn't fookin make this up! Let's discuss the managers position, Rafa This, You're a bully that, Let's get down to Brass tack's,... I, Er, Eh.

This Club's Fooked!
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Postby maguskwt » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:35 am

NANNY RED wrote:im on what ever group wants Roy gone, and if there isnt a group ill create one meself ,

its called OWL

once woy leaves :laugh:

I like that 'posse' nan... I'll join. :laugh:

It should be the OWLS though...
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:54 am

glenbuck patriot wrote:I, Er, Eh, pretty much some's your argument up.......


I, er, eh, I fooking give up with people like you on the Internet, make a point, make somebody out to be the "Bad" Guy" when your asked an intelligent question, you get...........

I, Er, Eh

You Couldn't fookin make this up! Let's discuss the managers position, Rafa This, You're a bully that, Let's get down to Brass tack's,... I, Er, Eh.

This Club's Fooked!

You my friend, sum up totally what is wrong with todays supporters. I am not used to answering such idiotic, pointless, opinions.

Questions yes, as I have answered yours, but you still go back to your drunken, drugged, I don't know, its like answering a fool.

You ask a question. I answer it.

You ask another, I answer that also.

You then go back to your, how can I put it ? I dont know. What kind of answer are you looking for? I honestly dont know.
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:22 am

glenbuck patriot wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
glenbuck patriot wrote:No fisticuff's intented,JUST THIS, If anyone on this Forum can Justify Roy Hodgson's tenure thus far,

He was brought in to replace Rafa.

He was brought in to a club severely in debt.

He didn't ask Liverpool to approach him.

He didn't ask to have mediocre players.

He didn't ask our best players to under perform.

He didn't ask mascherano to leave.

He wasn't responsible for the World Cup during pre season preparation.

He isn't responsible for the youth team he is relying on to balance the fixtures.

What exactly are you looking for?



Mediocre Players, I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply that LFC garnered more players than any other in the EPL to the World Cup!

maybe if that gentleman had his facts right, he would've realize Chelsea had more players during the WC:

John Terry, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole, Nicolas Anelka, Florent Malouda, Didier Drogba, Salomon Kalou, Deco, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Branislav Ivanovic, Miroslav Stoch. John Mikel Obi would've been there as well if not for injury.

you might take note of Arsenal's contribution while you're at it:
Alex Song, Nicklas Bendtner, Gael Clichy, Abou Diaby, William Gallas, Bacary Sagna, Emmanuel Eboue, Carlos Vela, Robin van Persie, Cesc Fabregas, Philippe Senderos.

not forgetting how Walcott and Nasri were questionably omitted from their respective teams.

so i hope that can put to bed the...very mediocre argument about how we had so many players at the WC as it means NOTHING.

and speaking of mediocre, why is it posters are discussing the need for reinforcements in at least 4 areas if our squad was that great as you're implying? we have 3 star players who are vital to the team and there are Reina, Gerrard and Torres.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:19 am

Just to answer gelbuck patriots question, about thinking Roy is the right man for the job and why he is being backed by some etc ?

Well the majority arent backing him, i do not think he should still be here.
What my point is, is that the sh!t he is getting about how he looks and talks is embarrasing.
what he has been saying in the press conferences recently has been stupid - no doubt.
But why is everyone being so personal ?

I am honestly cringing reading loads of peoples posts on here.
People like nan and ciggy that i think are sound are posting sh!te and acting like kids.


We know most didnt want Roy but why not just let the owners decide when they call time on things ?
Do we now make all of the decisions regarding our club ?
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:22 am

wow i love this tread, it feel like the takeover thread, all the same happy faces are here and everyone is just being as nice as they were on the other thread......i might start posting on here a bit more. :D
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