Ciggy wrote:What gets me though is people who went on here and slaughtered the man and guaranteed that someone like Mourinho would kill to manage us. That is and was so incredibly far from any kind of reality it still boggles the mind.
And then there's people like in this thread who posted they where bored with Rafa and after he promised 4th and finished 7th he had to go.
European games against Barca, Real Madrid, Juve etc etc, on a yearly basis? Not to mention a few finals now and then. Should not be ignored people wanted the title and he didnt deliver it thats why people wanted him out, not because of the 7th place finish people thought the grass was greener getting shut of him well everyone knows now its not.
And of course there's also the point of who should replace Rafa. Why anyone would think the people we had/have in charge would be able to get us anything better is beyond me. We reap what we sow, and there are plenty of Liverpool fans out there who thoroughly deserve what's happening now.
As bad as last season was with Rafa he didnt ever have us in 18th place seven goals scored with a minus goal difference.
When you get rid of a manager you replace said manager with someone better who in their right mind thought Roy Hodgson would be any better seriously needs their heads testing, the first thing I said when he signed was he will take us down and I was right.
I didnt want to be proven right I feel a f,uckin shamed embarressed and humiliated at our position in the league, I feel a f,ucking shamed in having an absoluty clueless manager in charge, who has no clue about Liverpool Football Club and is still comparing us to Fulham.
Twit & Tw@t have gone if the new owners have ruthlessness about them they should sack Hodgson today before he ruins this club for ever.
I say this alot lately.
I think your a sound girl but you dont half chat some rubbish on here at times ciggy.
People didnt want Rafa to go because they demanded or expected the title.
The reason (for me anyway) was because we were clearly going backwards and he didnt appear to have any idea how to stop it happening.
He started really well and won 2 trophies. That was fantastic.
We then got to another champions league final which was a great thing as we were ranked the no1 side in europe and probably favourites in that final.
He got it wrong for me there and inexplicably left Crouch on the bench when we were 2-0 down.
We still had some great times over the next 3 seasons with the Real Madrid and united hammerings in the same week being one of the best weeks of our recent history.
But the last season things had gone totally wrong.
His signings in the last 2 seasons had been terrible. Major money wasted with a key player being sold and replaced with one that the manager appeared not to fancy at all.
The squad in the end was massively unbalanced and after 6 seasons despite the financial constraints due to our scumbag owners - it was Rafa's squad. He built it and the buck does stop with him.
Onto Roy, there is no doubt he looks out of his depth, big time.
You and others have called it right by the looks of things.
I can hold my hands up and freely admit i thought most managers could come in and things would improve, even if it was only slightly.
I never for one minute expected things to be this bad and the buck stops with Roy.
It's not the previous managers fault we lost at home to Blackpool and were knocked out of the Carling cup at home to Northampton.
We may have an unbalanced squad with some poor players in but we should without doubt be in and around the top 4 still.
The board appear to have cocked up by appointing Roy and i think the new owners need to make a call asap before we are in serious trouble.
That doesnt mean Rafa should still be here, he had his chance and come up short in the end.
What it does mean is that when the owners do change the manager, they get it right.
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