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by **roberto green** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:12 pm

I felt sorry for Rafa there was a media and manager campain to oush him out the club and it's pretty sad that it transfered over to some of our fans and even worse some of the players.

Hey but at least we have a likeable manger now and he is english...

oh and fergie likes him

by **Big Niall** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:22 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:. Just think of the striker we could of got if we added the 9 million we used on swapping managers

he was well paid, yet demand to be paid millions to feck off for being deemed a failure.

Imagine, if he cared enough about the club to just leave instead of sticking his grubby fingers into the coffers to get yet more money and then move into another job paying millions and taking money from our transfer kitty.

by **Ciggy** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:22 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:Agreed. I have zero confidence in a downbeat, passion-less, "let's not embarrass ourselves", "let's give BLACKPOOL credit", "it was always going to be hard to come back against a quality (BLACKPOOL) side"....EXCUSE for a manager like RH.
The man is an excuse for a manager.

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by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:24 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:. Just think of the striker we could of got if we added the 9 million we used on swapping managers

he was well paid, yet demand to be paid millions to feck off for being deemed a failure.

Imagine, if he cared enough about the club to just leave instead of sticking his grubby fingers into the coffers to get yet more money and then move into another job paying millions and taking money from our transfer kitty.

He took millions less than he was entitled too - you name one person who would walk away with nothing . Let's not also forget his fantastic donations as well .

by **Calum** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:28 pm

If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:32 pm

No one knows if we would of lost Gerrard and Torres if Rafa had stayed - it's pure speculation withno backing or proof . We could of kept mashed if Rafa had stayed and he is currently a massive miss for us .

by **Ciggy** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:34 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Let's not be stingy in our credit to Blackpool

Ian Holloway is a better manager than Roy FACT :nod

And all credit to him and them he came to Anfield to win and got what he wanted.

by **LFC2007** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:40 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:No one knows if we would of lost Gerrard and Torres if Rafa had stayed - it's pure speculation withno backing or proof . We could of kept mashed if Rafa had stayed and he is currently a massive miss for us .

I presume you mean "Mascher". That's equally as speculative as saying Gerrard or Torres would have left had Rafa stayed.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:44 pm

Hence why I used the word "could" as opposed to "would" :;):

by **bigmick** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:49 pm

Whether Roy or any other manager succeeds is nothing whatsoever to do with getting rid of Benitez. If we buy Poulsen and use him in central midfield and he isn't good enough, it doesn't then follow that Lucas WAS good enough, because anyone with a set of eyes and clue can see that he wasn't.

Benitez had to go, that much was a given. Whether or not Roy will succeed is a different question entirely. Obviously he'll need to engineer an improvement and quickly if he is to get the chance to prove himself, but even if he doesn't we still did absolutely the right thing getting rid of Benitez.

by **Scottbot** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:50 pm

Rename this thread the 'repeat everythig that has already been said as if it's being said for the first time' thread.

by **LFC2007** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:52 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Hence why I used the word "could" as opposed to "would"

Ok. We "could" have lost Gerrard or Torres if Rafa has stayed. We "could" have lost Masch if Rafa had stayed. Thanks for clearing that up.

by **bigmick** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:53 pm

Scottbot wrote:Rename this thread the 'repeat everythig that has already been said as if it's being said for the first time' thread.

Yep, Roy rotates too much

by **Simari** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:56 pm

Calum wrote:If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

by **Calum** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:02 pm

Simari wrote:
Calum wrote:If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

No, I'm not having a laugh. It was clear Gerrard and Torres were totally disenchanted with Benitez last season and were ready to leave in the summer. Roy was the main reason why they stayed.

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So after a few months with roy, was sacking rafa - The right thing to do?

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