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[Benny The Noon]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

[aCe']

Yea... fat man had to go...There was only one way we'd be headed under Rafa and that was downwards...
Despite the slow start, we're yet to see how we fare under a different manager...
Always great seeing such threads pop up after a disappointing result though... no bias whatsoever...

[Simari]

If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

No, I'm not having a laugh. It was clear Gerrard and Torres were totally disenchanted with Benitez last season and were ready to leave in the summer. Roy was the main reason why they stayed.

Seriously mate - Read up on their comments about Benitez and the impact it has had on their careers.

Torres and Stevie both know where the club is financially. Both of them know that they can move to almost an other top club should they hand in a transfer request.

They weren't thinking about leaving because of Rafa ...

[Calum]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

[Calum]

If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

No, I'm not having a laugh. It was clear Gerrard and Torres were totally disenchanted with Benitez last season and were ready to leave in the summer. Roy was the main reason why they stayed.

Seriously mate - Read up on their comments about Benitez and the impact it has had on their careers.

Torres and Stevie both know where the club is financially. Both of them know that they can move to almost an other top club should they hand in a transfer request.

They weren't thinking about leaving because of Rafa ...

Oh yes they were.

[Simari]

If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

No, I'm not having a laugh. It was clear Gerrard and Torres were totally disenchanted with Benitez last season and were ready to leave in the summer. Roy was the main reason why they stayed.

Seriously mate - Read up on their comments about Benitez and the impact it has had on their careers.

Torres and Stevie both know where the club is financially. Both of them know that they can move to almost an other top club should they hand in a transfer request.

They weren't thinking about leaving because of Rafa ...

Oh yes they were.

No point discussing this as you are too stubborn to see past rumors.

[Benny The Noon]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

Gerrard stayed because no club would pay30 million for a 30 year old and only three clubs could afford to but Torres and he wouldn't of gone to any of them - if Madrid had bid for Gerrard and Barce for Torres IMO they both would of gone .

[Greavesie]

based on what we've seen so far....no

[Calum]

If Benitez hadn't gone, then we would have lost Gerrard and Torres in the summer, so it was right he was sacked. That added to the fact he squandered the money available for players last summer when he didn't buy a fit replacement for Alonso and another striker. So yes, sacking Benitez was the right thing, regardless of how things have gone since he left.

You are having a laugh.

Torres and Gerrard attribute a significant part of their development to Rafa.

It is obviously disappointing to go from title challengers one year, to 7th the next and every top professional has the right to be upset/angry.

What we now have is a FULL TEAM of individuals without belief - this is down to Roy. He has failed miserably so far.

On the bright side, he has a fortnight to think over what has happened over the past 2 months. Here's hoping that he uses all of this european experience that he constantly bleats on about and comes up with a workable plan.

No, I'm not having a laugh. It was clear Gerrard and Torres were totally disenchanted with Benitez last season and were ready to leave in the summer. Roy was the main reason why they stayed.

Seriously mate - Read up on their comments about Benitez and the impact it has had on their careers.

Torres and Stevie both know where the club is financially. Both of them know that they can move to almost an other top club should they hand in a transfer request.

They weren't thinking about leaving because of Rafa ...

Oh yes they were.

No point discussing this as you are too stubborn to see past rumors.

It wasn't rumours - it was reported at the time. You're too stubborn to believe it. Yes, you're right. No point in discussing it further.

[bigmick]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

Gerrard stayed because no club would pay30 million for a 30 year old and only three clubs could afford to but Torres and he wouldn't of gone to any of them - if Madrid had bid for Gerrard and Barce for Torres IMO they both would of gone .

can you prove any of it tho? Speck-you-lay-shun Beny, nothing more. Lets stick to facts, Gerrard and Torres both stayed after Roy had spoken to them. End of.

[Greavesie]

that's true Mick but also to the contrary there was only speculation that they were going to leave, there is no proof that them staying can be attributed to Roy

[Simari]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

Gerrard stayed because no club would pay30 million for a 30 year old and only three clubs could afford to but Torres and he wouldn't of gone to any of them - if Madrid had bid for Gerrard and Barce for Torres IMO they both would of gone .

can you prove any of it tho? Speck-you-lay-shun Beny, nothing more. Lets stick to facts, Gerrard and Torres both stayed after Roy had spoken to them. End of.

Yup, Roy had to speak to them and convince them that he had what it takes.

They were gone once they knew Rafa was out the door.

[Benny The Noon]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

Gerrard stayed because no club would pay30 million for a 30 year old and only three clubs could afford to but Torres and he wouldn't of gone to any of them - if Madrid had bid for Gerrard and Barce for Torres IMO they both would of gone .

can you prove any of it tho? Speck-you-lay-shun Beny, nothing more. Lets stick to facts, Gerrard and Torres both stayed after Roy had spoken to them. End of.

If you read the comment I actually stated it was MY OPINION and not actual fact . It is what I believe .

[Calum]

Can you back up and prove that speculation ?

Both players were quoted as saying Roy was a major factor in them staying. You must have been in Mars at the time. And no, I really can't be arsed proving it. I don't need to.

Gerrard stayed because no club would pay30 million for a 30 year old and only three clubs could afford to but Torres and he wouldn't of gone to any of them -

Look who's speculating now.

[puroresu]

Yes but getting RH was a mistake.  I said from day 1 we should be looking for someone else.