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[tubby]

The most ridiculous thing is all the tripe in the media blaming our recent abject displays on "Rafa's legacy", It makes my blood boil. And to think that these pundits and journalists get paid good money for writing and saying this tripe.

yeah, total disgrace, Rafa left this club perfectly set up to win things. He didnt mess up at all...


You f*cking people, sound like abunch of leicester fans.

Rafa was here for 5 years, 3 and half brilliant ones but then hehad a shocker, didnt want to be here

We probably need someone else, as nowadays fans just dont give anyone a chance.. thats my view

Well he sure as hell didn't leave Roy with a relegation battling side did he. How long did we spend in the relegation zone under Rafa?

[dawson99]

The most ridiculous thing is all the tripe in the media blaming our recent abject displays on "Rafa's legacy", It makes my blood boil. And to think that these pundits and journalists get paid good money for writing and saying this tripe.

yeah, total disgrace, Rafa left this club perfectly set up to win things. He didnt mess up at all...


You f*cking people, sound like abunch of leicester fans.

Rafa was here for 5 years, 3 and half brilliant ones but then hehad a shocker, didnt want to be here

We probably need someone else, as nowadays fans just dont give anyone a chance.. thats my view

Well he sure as hell didn't leave Roy with a relegation battling side did he. How long did we spend in the relegation zone under Rafa?

how many f*cking times... players were ready to leave, our football was awful

you might have been happy with Rafa staying in charge bringing the club down more and more, i wasnt.

Hes gone, we move on as cigs says. and yeah maybe Roy aint the right choice, but Rafa going was the right thing to do!!!

[Igor Zidane]

No it was totally wrong to sack rafa . The biggest mistake CECIL has made so far was sacking Rafa . The second biggest would be to sack roy . We are not Newcastle united and to those disloyal fans who sang Kenny's name on sunday on the KOP , shame on you .

[mart]

you might have been happy with Rafa staying in charge bringing the club down more and more, i wasnt.

Yea good thing we sacked him so we would not get kicked out of the carling cup by a pub team, and battle it out to try to avoid relegation. Oh wait...

[Roger Red Hat]

First time in all my years of going to Anfield have i ever heard another mans name sung loudly apart from our own manager , and that chant was for Dalglish, the whole fu/cking ground was singin it , What does that tell you

the whole crowd are a bunch of disrepectful tw@ts?? am I close?

[tubby]

The most ridiculous thing is all the tripe in the media blaming our recent abject displays on "Rafa's legacy", It makes my blood boil. And to think that these pundits and journalists get paid good money for writing and saying this tripe.

yeah, total disgrace, Rafa left this club perfectly set up to win things. He didnt mess up at all...


You f*cking people, sound like abunch of leicester fans.

Rafa was here for 5 years, 3 and half brilliant ones but then hehad a shocker, didnt want to be here

We probably need someone else, as nowadays fans just dont give anyone a chance.. thats my view

Well he sure as hell didn't leave Roy with a relegation battling side did he. How long did we spend in the relegation zone under Rafa?

how many f*cking times... players were ready to leave, our football was awful

you might have been happy with Rafa staying in charge bringing the club down more and more, i wasnt.

Hes gone, we move on as cigs says. and yeah maybe Roy aint the right choice, but Rafa going was the right thing to do!!!

They wernt ready to leave because of him. Most of our best best players probably wouldn't have even come to Liverpool had it not been for him. If any players were going to leave it was because of a lack of spending by the board. Rafa won a European Cup daws and got us to the top rankings in European football. He was always linkes with the top teams in Europe, year in year out.

If he was as bad as you make out I don't think he would have gotten a job with the current European champions.

[maguskwt]

The decision to sack Rafa and appoint Roy was absolutely wrong and reckless and doesn't have any logic nor sense in it. If you change a manager it's because you want to improve. Fair enough Rafa finished 7th and he has to take the responsibility. But if we wanna change the manager because of that, surely it is to improve. Roy isn't an improvement at all. Many members voiced their concern back then and rightly so. Roy was brought in pure and simple because he won't reject to asset stripping by the board. Rafa was instead asking to strengthen the squad. That was why Rafa was sacked and Roy brought in. Pure and simple. I've said it before sacking Rafa will be a mistake like the barcodes firing sir bobby robson... and I still maintain that...

[tubby]

If you take out a top manager you need to replace him like for like. You only have to look at their respective CV's to see they are miles apart in that sense. Rafa was pushed out the door because he dared to question the owners, he was making life hard for them. The owners needed someone who wouldn't cause a fuss, a nice guy. I bet they didn't think it would go wrong so quick though. Purlslow must be sweating it big time right now.

[maguskwt]

If you take out a top manager you need to replace him like for like. You only have to look at their respective CV's to see they are miles apart in that sense. Rafa was pushed out the door because he dared to question the owners, he was making life hard for them. The owners needed someone who wouldn't cause a fuss, a nice guy. I bet they didn't think it would go wrong so quick though. Purlslow must be sweating it big time right now.

Agreed.

[Emerald Red]

The most ridiculous thing is all the tripe in the media blaming our recent abject displays on "Rafa's legacy", It makes my blood boil. And to think that these pundits and journalists get paid good money for writing and saying this tripe.

Well, they've egg on their faces, that's why. Roy was their pick. Their darling. They bigged him up and put him on a pedestal. He couldn't fail. But obviously they had a plan if he did fail: blame the bearded, paunchy Spanish fella whome they've no relative connection to. They just didn't get him, as they've never gotten us.

[Ben Patrick]

If you take out a top manager you need to replace him like for like. You only have to look at their respective CV's to see they are miles apart in that sense. Rafa was pushed out the door because he dared to question the owners, he was making life hard for them. The owners needed someone who wouldn't cause a fuss, a nice guy. I bet they didn't think it would go wrong so quick though. Purlslow must be sweating it big time right now.

or he was pushed out of the door because we were disgraceful last season.

Listen i agree that Roy has had a nightmare start and AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, looks a bad choice.
BUT, Rafa had lost it, everything and everyone had gone stale, time for change.
Whether we made the right call with who we brought in is for me a total different topic for discussion.
I genuinely cant believe some of you seriously think that the reason Rafa is gone is due to his problems with the owners.
He had problems a couple of seasons back and they didnt get rid then did they ?

[Thommo's perm]

If you take out a top manager you need to replace him like for like. You only have to look at their respective CV's to see they are miles apart in that sense. Rafa was pushed out the door because he dared to question the owners, he was making life hard for them. The owners needed someone who wouldn't cause a fuss, a nice guy. I bet they didn't think it would go wrong so quick though. Purlslow must be sweating it big time right now.

or he was pushed out of the door because we were disgraceful last season.

Listen i agree that Roy has had a nightmare start and AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, looks a bad choice.
BUT, Rafa had lost it, everything and everyone had gone stale, time for change.
Whether we made the right call with who we brought in is for me a total different topic for discussion.
I genuinely cant believe some of you seriously think that the reason Rafa is gone is due to his problems with the owners.
He had problems a couple of seasons back and they didnt get rid then did they ?

Good post
Even the most fervant Rafa lover must see that he had lost the plot, the players and most of the fans. He had virtually given up and the desperation was on his face near the end. He had given his best and come up short. He had nothing left to give and had to go. Luckily for him he had a cushy job lined up (when was that arranged I wonder?) so he is quite happy hes now no longer connected with us. Far from being unhappy he must be delighted and will no doubt be convinced that he was right and everyone else was wrong. As per...

[bigmick]

I can't be bothered with the "but we should never have got rid" arguments any more. They're just spinning round the same sh!t, different day.

We have underperformed consistently for long enough. We need a manager who can take us forward. It wasn't benitez as we could see at the end, and so far it isn't Hodgson either.

We need less navel gazing from the fan base and a bit more big picture. Fat chance.

[laza]

He had problems a couple of seasons back and they didnt get rid then did they ?

Ben while Im very reluctant to get into pro anti point scoring rubbish that seems to be priority on this forum for last few seasons .

However werent owners trying to get rid of Rafa as per Klinsmann affair.
It would also be very difficult to remove Rafa when you considering we launched our first major challenge for the league and beat both MANU and Chavs the previous season

Last season wasnt good enough I fully agree though this attitude that Rafa had to go, no ifs no buts just seems bizarre to me considering the previous season.

Though I also  fully agree its irrevelent question now.

We have new manager who wasnt  my choice but he is Liverpool manager and while not above critique  deserves far more respect then he is getting.
Though campaign has started off as disaster, talk of getting rid of him after a few league games seems just as bizarre considering our off field situation

[Zidane]

Sacking Rafa wasn't necessarily the wrong decision, I think it was his time to go.. but we failed miserably in getting a suitable replacement.  I do hope some time down the road he manages us again and we have funds at that point in time.  I really respect the man as a person and I do miss him as our manager.  Unfortunately certain "key" players weren't happy with him and things just had to be done one way or the other, managers are always the ones at fault though.