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by **Reg** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:26 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Lucas has never EVER been good enough for LFC. If we get a 6 million bid, i'll drive him to the airport myself.

A Taxi Driver as well as a Martian is there no limit to your capabilities

Defo a taxi driver, he drove Rafa to the airport as well ! :laugh:

by **7_Kewell** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:46 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Lucas has never EVER been good enough for LFC. If we get a 6 million bid, i'll drive him to the airport myself.

A Taxi Driver as well as a Martian is there no limit to your capabilities

well, i'd rather be both in comparison to a gob$*i*e like you :laugh:

by **Scottbot** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:27 pm

psycllone wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Never been Lucas's biggest fan (or critic) but I'd deffo wait and see what happens with Masch before entertaining early summer offers for Lucas.

ok so you're telling me you want lucas to play an anchoring role in front of the defense??are u freakin kiddin me? he'd make our defense look like Sh1t ... you think he actually has the capabilities to run around and win the ball back everytime we lose possession? and clubs are willing to pay £5-6 million for lucas only because he played a lot of games for us last season not because he has any footballing skills, i bet woy can run faster than him

Dude you actually post like your username! I'm saying that Mascherano is a defensive midfielder and i'm also saying that Lucas is a defensive midfielder. Some posters think there is an attacking player bursting to get out (of Lucas) but I don't personally buy into that. I'm saying that if Masch is deffo on the way out then it would make sense to keep hold of Lucas unless we are absolutely sure an upgrade is on the way. I'm not suggesting Lucas plays as an out and out anchor in front of our back four, in fact i'm not suggesting we even need to play with one for much of the time. As I said before before i'm not Lucas's biggest fan but I do believe him to be a solid (don't get carried away I only said solid) player who (I think) can contribute over the course of the season. I also agree it was folly to play him alongside Mascherano so often last season because they simply didn't work together.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:17 am

Keep this thread active for long enough and we might be able to draw that bloke Kerry back to the forum :laugh:

by **In and Out** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:27 am

SELL SELL SELL

It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't make a pound profit on selling Lucas.

Still, deadwood needs to be offloaded, flog his S.American cousin Insua off while we're at.

by **Owzat** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:07 am

I wish we could sell off this forum's obsession with the "ultimate DM", we need to score goals to win games to push us up the table, I think six years of Rafa has mushed people's brains into thinking a DM in the side is a norm/absolute must. Lucas may not be the very best midfielder, but just because some don't like him or he isn't necessarily an absolute first choice, does that mean we have to sell?!?!? What happened to the concept of a SQUAD?!?

Seems to be the growing mentality these days, not just in this forum but in general, one extreme or the other. I reckon the government sold off the middle ground. Perhaps the daftest aspect is no matter what exactly you say, like my comments on Crouch and other players, is your opinion is instantly interpreted at one extreme or the other. Like with opinions on Rafa and Woy, it is now a divide into two of either pro or anti, no middle ground. And "Rafa did ok, but not what he came here to do. Winning the CL was great, but his league showings were not good enough overall with too many draws and defeats around" is thrown into the anti-Rafa camp, even though it's meant to be objective and facts put into wording.

Lucas' is worth a lot more than a £1, some people's opinions come daft comments on here on the other hand are lucky to get responses and ain't worth spit

by **Scottbot** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:30 am

Owzat wrote:I wish we could sell off this forum's obsession with the "ultimate DM", we need to score goals to win games to push us up the table, I think six years of Rafa has mushed people's brains into thinking a DM in the side is a norm/absolute must. Lucas may not be the very best midfielder, but just because some don't like him or he isn't necessarily an absolute first choice, does that mean we have to sell?!?!? What happened to the concept of a SQUAD?!?

Seems to be the growing mentality these days, not just in this forum but in general, one extreme or the other. I reckon the government sold off the middle ground. Perhaps the daftest aspect is no matter what exactly you say, like my comments on Crouch and other players, is your opinion is instantly interpreted at one extreme or the other. Like with opinions on Rafa and Woy, it is now a divide into two of either pro or anti, no middle ground. And "Rafa did ok, but not what he came here to do. Winning the CL was great, but his league showings were not good enough overall with too many draws and defeats around" is thrown into the anti-Rafa camp, even though it's meant to be objective and facts put into wording.

Lucas' is worth a lot more than a £1, some people's opinions come daft comments on here on the other hand are lucky to get responses and ain't worth spit

Deffo agree on the DM thing, it's seems to be a given that you have to have one in modern day football. Sure it helps to have one in the squad but it's not a pre-requisite. We'll have to continue to disagree on Crouch though

by **In and Out** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:42 am

Nobody said anything about finding the ultimate DM like owstat implied. I just spoke of getting rid of him because he isn't good enough, simple really. There's a few players we could get rid in order to bring better players in.

Lucas' is worth a lot more than a £1, some people's opinions come daft comments on here on the other hand are lucky to get responses and ain't worth spit

Read the words carefully in my post and stop coming to 'what I'd call statistically s.*i*e conclusions'.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:55 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Lucas has never EVER been good enough for LFC. If we get a 6 million bid, i'll drive him to the airport myself.

A Taxi Driver as well as a Martian is there no limit to your capabilities

well, i'd rather be both in comparison to a gob$*i*e like you

Notice I didn't list comedian as one of your many professions

seen as your seriously devoid of any humour
You Fucking little root :laugh:

(I Bet you've got a tiny d*ck as well ... certainly not as big as the one your sporting on your forehead :laugh:

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:59 pm

Reg wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Lucas has never EVER been good enough for LFC. If we get a 6 million bid, i'll drive him to the airport myself.

A Taxi Driver as well as a Martian is there no limit to your capabilities

Defo a taxi driver, he drove Rafa to the airport as well !

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:43 pm

Courtesy of The Liverpool Echo
LIVERPOOL today slapped a hands-off warning on Lucas – as they reiterated their stance that Javier Mascherano is also not for sale.

The Brazilian midfielder has been the subject of persistent interest from Serie A side Palermo, whose sporting director Walter Sabatani suggested a bid for his services had been made.

However, new boss Roy Hodgson does not want to lose Lucas, who was one of Liverpool’s most consistent and honest performers last season.

He will travel out with the rest of the Liverpool squad who are back in full training today to Switzerland, where the Reds will crank up preparation for the new campaign.

Though Lucas does not enjoy the same popularity amongst supporters as some of his team-mates, he has never made any secret of the fact he is happy and settled on Merseyside.

The Reds, meanwhile, do not want to lose a player whose best years are in front of him and have made it clear enquiries will be given short shrift.

They are sentiments which, in theory, apply to Mascherano, whose main agent Walter Tamer said yesterday that the midfielder would relish a move to Inter Milan.

“If it was up to Mascherano, the negotiations (with Inter) would be easy,” said Tamer, who as recently as April was negotiating a new deal for his client at Anfield.

“But he has a contract and first the two clubs would have to find an agreement before we step in.

“Last year (Rafa) Benitez turned down a lot of money offered by Barcelona but this is a different market. I have not been informed what Mascherano’s buy-out clause is. I await a call as I am the only one authorised to speak of his eventual transfer.”
Liverpool, however, have never wavered from their stance this summer that they are not looking to cash in on any of their top performers.

Mascherano is clearly in that bracket but, at the same time, the club does recognise the danger of keeping a disaffected player.

When he failed to secure a move to Barcelona 12 months ago, Mascherano’s attitude was poor and his performances dipped dramatically in the early stages of the campaign.

He did improve during the middle of the season and was offered a contract extension at the same time as Pepe Reina but while the keeper had no hesitation in committing his future, Mascherano’s deal remained unsigned.

“Mascherano has not spoken to Hodgson nor with Liverpool,” Tamer added. “After the World Cup, he has switched off but it’s clear that he is happy to be a target of top clubs in the transfer market.”

Hodgson’s main priority remains strengthening his squad; he has been linked with several names so far, the latest being Standard Liege’s classy midfielder Steven Defour.

Like I have stated before this Hodgson fella is starting to grow on me .... I dont expect his decision to retain the more than capable Lucas will have many devotees ( Well not on this forum anyway

) but that aside he will always be applauded by other fans and I (outside the relative comfort of the forum )as an honest and hard working player who has performed at times last season what seemed to be a thankless task with conviction

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:48 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Keep this thread active for long enough and we might be able to draw that bloke Kerry back to the forum

He's in camouflage just biding his time ... Its a covert operation

by **bigmick** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:08 pm

If we sell Masherano (which we will lets be honest, still can't get over his agent claiming he doesn't know the buy out trigger :laugh:

) then selling Lucas would be daft. On his own as a holder, he might well be alright.

Roy's no mug though, and so far I agree with everything he's done (although to be fair he hasn't done feck all

).

by **akumaface** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:44 am

I remember a lot of us on here saying Lucas maybe better off playing for teams like Fulham. But now, we are becoming Fulham....

by **bigmick** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:01 pm

akumaface wrote:I remember a lot of us on here saying Lucas maybe better off playing for teams like Fulham. But now, we are becoming Fulham....

Are we

In what sense exactly

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