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by **Kash_Mountain** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:34 pm

Dawson, what do you mean re your last point?

Note: some of my mates also LFC fans mentioned that they think this talk of Roy Hodgeson is just a smokescreen and that LFC will be appointing a new manager but it won't be Roy.

by **dawson99** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:36 pm

Kash_Mountain wrote:Dawson, what do you mean re your last point?

Note: some of my mates also LFC fans mentioned that they think this talk of Roy Hodgeson is just a smokescreen and that LFC will be appointing a new manager but it won't be Roy.

there is stuff going on. Heard so many whispers at work, and it wouldnt make sense to spend money on Roy.

the owners are cun*s, but they are rich cun*s and didnt get that way by being bad with money. there is no way they would spend money on roy unless there is a lot going on.

I think Roy is a good choice personally, and i think it willgo through, and i think hes been given the chance by the new owners.. maybe im wrong, maybe he wont even come, but there is definately stuff going on for us to be splashing the cash, not on players

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:46 pm

dawson99 wrote:oh, and you've heard Torres and Gerrard are leaving?

I think the owners would have loved Kenny to be in charge, it would save them a few million, and ive noticed they dont like spending money..

I just think there is something going on mate.

Sadly yes I have heard that Gerrard fears his time for medals is running out unless he leaves for pastures new .... I hope your optimism is proved to be correct though mate and nobody leaves and we end up with new owners and a moderate financial injection
but sadly I think Hodgson has more of a slim chance of keeping Torres compared to the already luggage packed and hailing a Black cab Gerrard

I don't do rumours and conjecture Daws I am no Lakes but Stevie is off everyone in Liverpool already knows
saying that I am praying he has a change of heart ,but I am also aware hodgsons appointment doesn't inspire any great belief amongst players of Gerrards calibre

by **dawson99** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:47 pm

I agree Gerrards gone, but not Torres...

Good luck to Stevie, he would have gone no matter what, Rafa wouldnt have kept him. Hes bed himself dry for LFC, good luck to him wherever he goes

by **shabelle50** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:48 pm

Is LFCTV going to be back on tomorrow? I can't believe the studios still aren't ready because of "moving". Sorry but this was organised by H&G to stifle debate. If there's no bulletion tomorrow night to at least announce the appointment it will be a disgrace.

by **zarababe** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:58 pm

Emerald Red wrote:

Not announced anywhere else yet?

LFC.tv

BBC

The Guardian

I'll wait and see :Oo:

by **teamleader1** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:01 pm

parchpea wrote:Any appointment would have been met with caution considering you are following a popular manager in Benitez and then challenging Dalglish to replace him. I cant think of a manager that we could have appointed that would have suited, heck even a manager with a record second to none Mourhino was being heckled as a potential successor. Bottom line is the people are generally hacked off with the owners and want the club sold so anything they do is just food to have a pop and let off steam. Im not saying thats not understandable but I think its led to an over reaction on the appointment of Hodgson. Lets just see how things shape up in the next month as players filter back into work and we start to get more details of who will be staying and going and the squad starts to take shape for the new campaign.

Agree
Give him a chance.
And if in six years time we finish 7th after being knocked out of all the cups early doors
Then fk him right off!

by **Redman in wales** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:02 pm

dawson99 wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
dawson99 wrote:I do RBG, i say it how i see it, as you know.. but there is more to this than we know. Its like jumping ship before the anchors even been lifted... Emotion is good, but at theis point preseason we need a level head to look at what is happening. I cant stress enough that we WOULD NOT sign a manager from another club unless we had funds or new owners in place... it would make no sense at all. why waste the money when we could have Kenny for free?

I think Kenny would have persuaded Torres to stay and Gerrard would definitely been tempted to play under the King plus Dalglish's name alone would have enticed players simply with the promise of playing under a true Liverpool Legend ...
I expect the owners would be banking on Hodgson having less of an allure mate

oh, and you've heard Torres and Gerrard are leaving?

I think the owners would have loved Kenny to be in charge, it would save them a few million, and ive noticed they dont like spending money..

I just think there is something going on mate.

i think of it from the other way round though in that appoint hodgson was actually the cheaper of the two options for them. look at it this way.

Appoint Hodgson - £2m
lose gerrard, + £25m
transfer kitty (Gerrards replacement): - £16m

Profit for two fat yanks: £7m

OR

Appoint Dalglish: £0
Dalglish convinces Gerrard to stay: £0

Profit for two fat yanks: £0

* Those figures are just plucked out of the air, but you catch my drift. Could also work with Torres, but the profit margin would be greater

by **teamleader1** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:06 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Kash_Mountain wrote:Dawson, what do you mean re your last point?

Note: some of my mates also LFC fans mentioned that they think this talk of Roy Hodgeson is just a smokescreen and that LFC will be appointing a new manager but it won't be Roy.

there is stuff going on. Heard so many whispers at work, and it wouldnt make sense to spend money on Roy.

the owners are cun*s, but they are rich cun*s and didnt get that way by being bad with money. there is no way they would spend money on roy unless there is a lot going on.

I think Roy is a good choice personally, and i think it willgo through, and i think hes been given the chance by the new owners.. maybe im wrong, maybe he wont even come, but there is definately stuff going on for us to be splashing the cash, not on players

I go along with that Dawson
Makes me think that the rumours of a 560ml Arab takeover within weeks might just be true
Fingers crossed

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:15 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Have already apologised for error of forgetting taggert but he is in a league of his own and been round for years bar him the other successful current managers are not British , the last time everyone wanted an English manager was the English fans and look what happened there . At the end of the day it doesn't matter what nationality a player or manager is it matters that they are successful and are good enough - being British / English in the prem doesn't give any advantage at all

I disagree, I think having a British manager does make a difference.

Many foreign managers will dismiss British talent and favour foreign players. Wenger is a prime example, Benitez was too but a lesser extent.

Week in week out over the last few seasons, we see British players out performing their counterparts. More annoying even, when you see a local lad sold only to excel in the position your weak in. Warnock at LB and Crouch at CF springs to mind.

I for one would like to see a more local policy of players. Local lads, not necessarily Scouse, always adhere themselves well to the Kop. Pretty much all British players we've had in the past are thought of well by everyone.

Many british players "talent" get dismissed for one reason only - they arent good enough or better than their foriegn counterparts - both warnock and crouch leaving had nothing to do with them being british - we had better players in their position .

by **Reg** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:24 pm

teamleader1 wrote:
parchpea wrote:Any appointment would have been met with caution considering you are following a popular manager in Benitez and then challenging Dalglish to replace him. I cant think of a manager that we could have appointed that would have suited, heck even a manager with a record second to none Mourhino was being heckled as a potential successor. Bottom line is the people are generally hacked off with the owners and want the club sold so anything they do is just food to have a pop and let off steam. Im not saying thats not understandable but I think its led to an over reaction on the appointment of Hodgson. Lets just see how things shape up in the next month as players filter back into work and we start to get more details of who will be staying and going and the squad starts to take shape for the new campaign.

Agree
Give him a chance.
And if in six years time we finish 7th after being knocked out of all the cups early doors
Then fk him right off!

Good point and begs the question:

Are we a football club making an honest attempt to win the league, or are we a business, happy to tick over and make 40 million a year (before the owners steal it on interest payments) and effectively mug teh fan base?

I fear appointing Woy and not giving him a transfer kitty puts us firmly is catigory 2.

Shanks lad, cover yer ears.

by **zarababe** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:28 pm

But he's stil lnot been appointed..

by **Maickito** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:44 pm

Honestly I think that some of the imports that have come to liverpool under our previous 2 managers are inferior to a lot of players in the championship.

I value and encourage getting players like Mascherano , Reina, Alonso etc etc etc in and I don't mind a few flops either because these things happen. However a lot of :censored:

has come to Liverpool in the last 10 yrs from abroad.

Kromkamp; Smicer, Traore; Biscan; Titi Camara ; Eric Meijer; Lucas; Palletta; Ngog and lots of others -----UTTER Cr===ap

These guys are obstacles to local lads coming through. If you say otherwise......well I really disagree..... Liverpool hasn't stopped producing good young footballers- look @ Everton and some of the talent they have

Youngster support one club but go to clubs where they feel they can succeed. Fowler / Carragher/ McManaman were all Everton supporters so there is proof enough. If I had a child during Benitez' reign I would have doubts whether to send him to Liverpool's academy or Everton.

The likes of Lucas are persisted with because they cost money. 6 million reasons more to persist with him as opposed to some local lad

Ngog is another classic example; the fella scored goals but he got so many opportunities , more than I think all the local lads did in Benitez's entire period at the club

by **teamleader1** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:57 pm

Reg wrote:

Good point and begs the question:

Are we a football club making an honest attempt to win the league, or are we a business, happy to tick over and make 40 million a year (before the owners steal it on interest payments) and effectively mug teh fan base?

I fear appointing Woy and not giving him a transfer kitty puts us firmly is catigory 2.

Shanks lad, cover yer ears.[/quote]
I don't think he would even consider walking away from the very real chance of becoming national manager to be a patsy for the yanks
He must know whats going on behind the scenes and certainly wouldn't take on the massive expectations at Anfield while working on a shoestring.
The mans stock has never been higher, he doesn't need to take on a no win situation.
I think hes got the 15ml pledged and all proceeds from any sales, and I wouldnt be surprised if he knows of an imminent takeover coming anytime now.

by **Thommo's perm** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:43 pm

loopyliverpool wrote:I think Hodgson is an excellent choice and will bring a certain level of decency back to the Manager's fold. He's articulate, clever, dry; has a really decent record as a manager and may just be the chap who takes LFC forward on what will most likely be a shoestring budget. The negativity surrounding the news that he may be our next manager is bewildering! The club is in a really sorry state at the moment due to factors we all know about but at least we can all get behind the man who was voted Manager of the Year last season in the toughest League in the world!!!

An oasis of intelligence in a desert of silliness
:;):

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