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[Octsky]

Back on topic, even if Inter has sacked Rafa I would gladly have him back as compared to having Roy. Of course I do think we should move on but if we cannot recruite a manager of the right calibre or profile, I would have Rafa back as our manager in a heartbeat...

The struggles that inter are having is expected after winning everything last season with a different manager. Rafa shouldn't have taken up that job. It's a bad move, a poisoned chalice. First of all the squad is too old. Secondly they are having a nightmare with injuries. Thirdly Rafa's football methods and management style and mourinho's are vastly different. An aging squad who has won the treble last season would not have the hunger and motivation anymore. And Rafa has a mounting to climb when it comes to motivating the team to play his system because of the vastly different styles...

wow, u are really a persistant guy.
go take a look at Inter's fan forum,
it remind me of our forum a year back.
lots of fighting, lots of aguments.

it seems peaceful now for us and long may it stay.

[maguskwt]

Back on topic, even if Inter has sacked Rafa I would gladly have him back as compared to having Roy. Of course I do think we should move on but if we cannot recruite a manager of the right calibre or profile, I would have Rafa back as our manager in a heartbeat...

The struggles that inter are having is expected after winning everything last season with a different manager. Rafa shouldn't have taken up that job. It's a bad move, a poisoned chalice. First of all the squad is too old. Secondly they are having a nightmare with injuries. Thirdly Rafa's football methods and management style and mourinho's are vastly different. An aging squad who has won the treble last season would not have the hunger and motivation anymore. And Rafa has a mounting to climb when it comes to motivating the team to play his system because of the vastly different styles...

wow, u are really a persistant guy.
go take a look at Inter's fan forum,
it remind me of our forum a year back.
lots of fighting, lots of aguments.

it seems peaceful now for us and long may it stay.

It seems quiet because alot of posters have lost enthusiasm about our season under Roy and do not post anymore.

There circumstances in which a manager cannot be successful... That is what rafa is finding out now. Look at scholari at Chelsea. A very good manager but failed at Chelsea. Rafa's track record speaks for itself. 2 la liga's, 1 champion's league, 1 UEFA Cup, 1 FA cup. With that track record, it will take couple more failed jobs for clubs to think twice about hiring him. The inter fans have the right to be discontented, however, that doesn't make him a bad manager.

[Octsky]

those hardcore rafa fans still have the preception that a good manager doesnt become a bad one overnight.
"2 la liga, uefa cup, UCL in his first yr at LFC, etc ...", no, a good manager doesnt become a bad one overnight, it took him 6 yrs.

Sven Ericksson won almost everything with Lazio when the Serie A was at its most competitive, after a high life with England and sports psysios, he isnt even fit enought to manage Notts county now.
Rafa has fallen from the sky and his fans need to accept tat, welcoming him back is insane.

[rocky29]

Back on topic, even if Inter has sacked Rafa I would gladly have him back as compared to having Roy. Of course I do think we should move on but if we cannot recruite a manager of the right calibre or profile, I would have Rafa back as our manager in a heartbeat...

The struggles that inter are having is expected after winning everything last season with a different manager. Rafa shouldn't have taken up that job. It's a bad move, a poisoned chalice. First of all the squad is too old. Secondly they are having a nightmare with injuries. Thirdly Rafa's football methods and management style and mourinho's are vastly different. An aging squad who has won the treble last season would not have the hunger and motivation anymore. And Rafa has a mounting to climb when it comes to motivating the team to play his system because of the vastly different styles...

wow, u are really a persistant guy.
go take a look at Inter's fan forum,
it remind me of our forum a year back.
lots of fighting, lots of aguments.

it seems peaceful now for us and long may it stay.

It seems quiet because alot of posters have lost enthusiasm about our season under Roy and do not post anymore.

There circumstances in which a manager cannot be successful... That is what rafa is finding out now. Look at scholari at Chelsea. A very good manager but failed at Chelsea. Rafa's track record speaks for itself. 2 la liga's, 1 champion's league, 1 UEFA Cup, 1 FA cup. With that track record, it will take couple more failed jobs for clubs to think twice about hiring him. The inter fans have the right to be discontented, however, that doesn't make him a bad manager.

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[The_Rock]

i couldnt give 2 hoots whether he comes or not. Im more interested to see where the great one will end up after inter sack him. Lets see what top club in europe wants him.

Newcastle...

[rocky29]

i couldnt give 2 hoots whether he comes or not. Im more interested to see where the great one will end up after inter sack him. Lets see what top club in europe wants him.

Newcastle...

i think alan pardew will get it and would get more respect out of the players than rafa would.

[Thommo's perm]

We've seen this before, not just of Rafa but also of Roy - reading into their intentions with little sense of perspective, that is. Back before Sunderland game, Roy was accused of "slating the fans" when he addressed the issue of protests and the ownership situation quite generally, and now Rafa has been accused of plotting to split the fanbase in order to feed his own ego by attending a game.... yes, by simply attending a game.

Deffo seen this before a few months ago , when the theory was then he was even in conspiresy with the other two, that was a classic,

This thread should be renamed

Is it ok for Rafa to go the match , ha ha

Will he be safe from Thommo,

You got me. Im just being a paranoid conspiracy theorist

Benitez is far from a stupid man. Stubborn, arrogant, egotistical, control freak who cant take criticism? Yes. But stupid? Never. And all those who are making him out to be naive are in fact insulting his unquestionable intelligence.
He would know exactly what he was doing and what kind of disruption he would cause if he came to a match at Anfield by those who still pine for him like justin beiber fans.
This is far more serious than SOS over-reacting at Roys "groups of people" throwaway quip

[SouthCoastShankly]

Really interesting comments from Paul Kelso on Twitter today. He picks up on John W Henry's thoughts on Moneyball (using statistical analysis of players to create a winning team) -

"Re-reading @John_W_Henry #lfc blueprint Moneyball, food for thought for Roy "What business leaves the fate of an organisation to a middle-manager?""

Essentially meaning that Benitez (or Mourinho for that matter) would never flourish or survive under NESV. Their whole approach is based on assigning jobs to the best person (Comolli, etc) not allowing the manager to control all aspects of the club.

Benitez would not work with NESV he demands too much control. Control he would not be allowed.

[Thommo's perm]

those hardcore rafa fans still have the preception that a good manager doesnt become a bad one overnight.
"2 la liga, uefa cup, UCL in his first yr at LFC, etc ...", no, a good manager doesnt become a bad one overnight, it took him 6 yrs.

Sven Ericksson won almost everything with Lazio when the Serie A was at its most competitive, after a high life with England and sports psysios, he isnt even fit enought to manage Notts county now.
Rafa has fallen from the sky and his fans need to accept tat, welcoming him back is insane.

Great post
Its so frustrating to see someone who was once so good at something go into a decline. It happens in all walks of life: Great directors make fantastic films and then seem to lose their way and make duds. Great musicians/bands make great albums and then run out of ideas. Great footballers e.g. Riise are fantastic one season and sh'ite the next.
So it is for managers. They have it all, win trophies and then lose the midas touch.
How and why is a mystery

[7_Kewell]

Really interesting comments from Paul Kelso on Twitter today. He picks up on John W Henry's thoughts on Moneyball (using statistical analysis of players to create a winning team) -

"Re-reading @John_W_Henry #lfc blueprint Moneyball, food for thought for Roy "What business leaves the fate of an organisation to a middle-manager?""

Essentially meaning that Benitez (or Mourinho for that matter) would never flourish or survive under NESV. Their whole approach is based on assigning jobs to the best person (Comolli, etc) not allowing the manager to control all aspects of the club.

Benitez would not work with NESV he demands too much control. Control he would not be allowed.

Possibly the best (and most sensible) post here…

[Benny The Noon]

Maybe Rafa wanted to take away as much control away from the businessmen ruining the club - could anyone blame him really ?

[Thommo's perm]

Maybe Rafa wanted to take away as much control away from the businessmen ruining the club - could anyone blame him really ?

Good question

[SouthCoastShankly]

Maybe Rafa wanted to take away as much control away from the businessmen ruining the club - could anyone blame him really ?

I don't think so. Rafa was notoriously controlling, even prior to H&G.

Ask Paco Ayerestan.

[Benny The Noon]

At the end of the day Paco was a fitness coach .

[7_Kewell]

At the end of the day Paco was a fitness coach .

you spelt Assistant Manager wrong.