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[shabelle50]

Just seen this-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport....at.html

If he is staying this is a curious reaction from Roy.

[7_Kewell]

The attitude of the players stinks, they are currently controlling the club, and until we get a manager who wont take any sh!t from any ego claiming to be gods gift to football, it will remain so.

which is why we need a clean sweep...new back room staff new players and new era. The Rafa era is over, the Roy era never got off the ground and now Liverpool Fc needs to move on with someon eat the helm who can set out a plan to return out club back to where it belongs.

It will happen, but not this season.

[burjennio]

according to that article Blackburn were missing 8 first team players? That makes a shocking result even worse

[7_Kewell]

Just seen this-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport....at.html

If he is staying this is a curious reaction from Roy.

he knows the game is up, which is why he didn't want to spent 30 mins answering questions about it.

[Emerald Red]

Hodgson has inherited a squad with a poor attitude. He added Cole and Mereiles, merarles, mercat, whatever, two big signings, only the merman has done well. The rest, well. He doesnt have it in him to slap em around a bit. The attitude is wrong, and you cant help but feel they are here for the money. Like I said elsewhere, whoever comes in has a massive job on his hands.

I've just watched the highlights on MoTD. The first goal, it looks like our two CB's were instructed to press high up the pitch from a set piece. Looks to me that's a tactical thing and it cost us a goal away from home. I don't think our players know their ar'se from their elbows at the minute due to how they are instructed to play. There's no organisation on the pitch. Rafa had us playing robotically at times, but at least you could see the purpose behind it - organisation. We were machine-like under him. Controlled. Now we just look like a pub team. That's Hodgson's doing. No one elses.

Under Rafa, when we went 1-0 down, it wasnt down to tactics, it wasnt down to positions, it was down to attitude. It was simply "Game Over". The attitude under Roy is pretty much the same. However you could argue that at least under Roy, he is trying to be positive, pushing up trying to score, commit everyone to the win.

No for me, its the players as well as the managers. The attitude of the players stinks, they are currently controlling the club, and until we get a manager who wont take any sh!t from any ego claiming to be gods gift to football, it will remain so.

Hmm, I distinctly remember us having a spine under Benitez going down a goal or two. Afterall, that's what Benitez's most famous wins were based on, were they not? You can't make things up and re-write history to suit an argument. Last season was bad all round, granted, but it does not excuse, or should lend to any excuse for the debacle that Hodgson has served this season.

And Kewell - f*ck off and go fishing somewhere else.

[PabloMedina28]

so long Roy... all the best in the future.

Simple as that really

No need for F*ck off Roy or any name calling

He came, he saw, he f*cked up and now its time to go, even he knows it

I really hope so m8

In all honesty his only option is to jump before hes pushed.
Ive a sneaky feeling that if he dosnte show for the after match interview then hes got the bullit or walked.

I think they might give him more time
For them I dare say 12th is not a terrible position to be in and saturday could be a surprise if we win
What I think is more concerning for them is the supporters not turning up
That will be the motivator to quicken up his sacking

Tell me: what are you on? Seriously like? Is it glue? Is it gas? Is it the smell of your own bullsh*t? Honestly, f*cking wise up! There is absolutely NOTHING positive that can be taken from this man's horrenoud tenure here, yet you still look for the positive of him being in charge? We're a f*cking disgrace with him in charge of us, yet you're still trying to defend him? Unreal. 

How am I defending him you tit?
I am talking about how the yanks might look at the situation and not sack him straight away
I think he has to go now, no matter what. He fu'cked up big style and cannot rectify the situation. I am pointing out why I think he might stay
In your own words: Catch a Fu*king grip!

You just said that 12th isnt that bad a spot to be sitting in? Are you boogaloo or what?

Its happened...................Boogaloo had finally been used on this thread.

[PabloMedina28]

If people explained themelves better in their first post it really would save an awful lot of the follow up posts which do so much to clog up threads and impede sensible discussion. Does my head in.

Explain yourself 

[7_Kewell]

Hodgson has inherited a squad with a poor attitude. He added Cole and Mereiles, merarles, mercat, whatever, two big signings, only the merman has done well. The rest, well. He doesnt have it in him to slap em around a bit. The attitude is wrong, and you cant help but feel they are here for the money. Like I said elsewhere, whoever comes in has a massive job on his hands.

I've just watched the highlights on MoTD. The first goal, it looks like our two CB's were instructed to press high up the pitch from a set piece. Looks to me that's a tactical thing and it cost us a goal away from home. I don't think our players know their ar'se from their elbows at the minute due to how they are instructed to play. There's no organisation on the pitch. Rafa had us playing robotically at times, but at least you could see the purpose behind it - organisation. We were machine-like under him. Controlled. Now we just look like a pub team. That's Hodgson's doing. No one elses.

Under Rafa, when we went 1-0 down, it wasnt down to tactics, it wasnt down to positions, it was down to attitude. It was simply "Game Over". The attitude under Roy is pretty much the same. However you could argue that at least under Roy, he is trying to be positive, pushing up trying to score, commit everyone to the win.

No for me, its the players as well as the managers. The attitude of the players stinks, they are currently controlling the club, and until we get a manager who wont take any sh!t from any ego claiming to be gods gift to football, it will remain so.

Hmm, I distinctly remember us having a spine under Benitez going down a goal or two. Afterall, that's what Benitez's most famous wins were based on, were they not? You can't make things up and re-write history to suit an argument. Last season was bad all round, granted, but it does not excuse, or should lend to any excuse for the debacle that Hodgson has served this season.

And Kewell - f*ck off and go fishing somewhere else.

now now, i was answering your post. be nice

[Kharhaz]

Hmm, I distinctly remember us having a spine under Benitez going down a goal or two. Afterall, that's what Benitez's most famous wins were based on, were they not? You can't make things up and re-write history to suit an argument. Last season was bad all round, granted, but it does not excuse, or should lend to any excuse for the debacle that Hodgson has served this season.

No, sorry im not. Im talking about the squad that remains from the season after we finished second. Or rafas grand finale if you like. Its this attitude that has carried on.

[metalhead]

Kewell is a typical journalist



I'm kidding mate

[7_Kewell]

Kewell is a typical journalist



I'm kidding mate

i take that as a compliment 

but being serious for a second (and only that) we need a clear out and should stop kidding ourselves that this is a title challenging side in disguise. It isn't.

[LFC2007]

Just seen Hansen and Dixon actually saying on motd that he's living on borrowed  time. At f*ckin' last. Surely now...........

Hansen also said he has inherited a poor squad.

Maybe, just maybe, there is a hint of truth in their?

There's more than a hint of truth, mate. I understand that people will jump to the conclusion that saying as much amounts to a "defence" of Roy and an "assault" on Rafa, but it really doesn't. Neither does believing Roy to be out of his depth and believing that the squad needs a rebuild amount to a contradiction; with the squad we have we should be doing far better, but there is a great deal of doubt about just how much we can achieve given its limitations. We accept that Roy isn't good enough and it's time we accepted that a lot of the players aren't, either. We need to accept that players like Skrtel, Lucas, Ngog, Kuyt, Kyrgiakos, and to some extent a few of the others that Rafa signed (I mention his signings since there is an overwhelming consensus that Konchesky and Poulsen aren't good enough), while not "sh!t", really aren't that good. We need to remember that we are Liverpool, not just any old Premier League club, but a club with the highest aspirations and that means we need an especially high calibre of player. Tonight, we saw more evidence of how Kyrgiakos struggles to deal with the fast movements of attackers, how Lucas struggles to get tight to players with his "running through treacle while pretending to look like a good player" routine, how Skrtel is so easily turned and how he often gets caught out of position, and how Johnson struggles to get tight and track the runs of attackers. We've seen it all before.

[Emerald Red]

Hmm, I distinctly remember us having a spine under Benitez going down a goal or two. Afterall, that's what Benitez's most famous wins were based on, were they not? You can't make things up and re-write history to suit an argument. Last season was bad all round, granted, but it does not excuse, or should lend to any excuse for the debacle that Hodgson has served this season.

No, sorry im not. Im talking about the squad that remains from the season after we finished second. Or rafas grand finale if you like. Its this attitude that has carried on.

The poor mentality from last year? Yes, it has. But not as much as you'd think. Most of it has come from the shocking away performances and how we set up. There's no way we were anywhere near this bad last season away from home. One of Roy's traits that he's brought with him to this club, I suppose.

[7_Kewell]

we had Javier Mascherano last season, a lot of people have skipped over the fact he was an important part of our team. Who has he been replaced by?  oh yeah, Lucas

[PabloAimar]

Just seen Hansen and Dixon actually saying on motd that he's living on borrowed  time. At f*ckin' last. Surely now...........

Hansen also said he has inherited a poor squad.

Maybe, just maybe, there is a hint of truth in their?

Not really. We had a weak squad, but not a very poor squad as they are now trying to make out. We all knew we needed a striker and a few other signings for the bench, but that was back when we were getting into finals of the CL and challenging for the league. Roy took the same team - minus Alonso - that were a step away from greatness, and turned us into relegation candidates.

a step away from greatness? Last years team was a country mile away from greatness. We need a total clear out, starting with:

Johnson
Konchesky
Kyrgiakos
Skrtel
Maxi
Lucas
Ngog
Babel
Poulsen
Jovanovic

so that leaves the following 'good' players...

reina
carragher
agger
aurelio
gerrard
meireles
cole
kuyt
torres

...yet senile roy considers us to be 'in the compass' of bolton, blackburn, wolves, etc. now i see why he doesn't understand  questions about fulham and liverpool players being different 'types' of players.

did rafa ever contradict himself in 6 years as many times as roy has in 6 months?

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2010....nths-in