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[tubby]

Fiorentina has a striker who have a more than a decent chance of doing well in the EPL as he is not a typical Italian-esqe striker. He heads well and holds up the ball well. He also top scored in Serie A last season. Luca Toni, but perhaps he'd been approached by the likes of Inter by now.

Well hes spent his whole Career in Italy, so maybe he would like to try somwehere else for a change.

[azriahmad]

Raoul, I think Cramonesi will be very pricey now that he has won a WC medal and he is not really world class that he is heads and shoulders above our existing personnel. He may be a bit better, but not that far better. Even if he came relatively cheap due to a fire sale by Juve, he'd command very high wages. The Italians won the WC with a good hermonious team with good work ethics fostered by a great coach, not by having full of world class players. For instance, Lippi threw on 4 strikers in extra time against Germany trying to avoid penalty kicks and was rewarded with 2 excellent goals.

Their 2 world class performers over the entire WC finals campaign were Cannavaro and Buffon. You should check the stats on Buffon's saves from attackers and see how this compared with the other 'keepers. In the group stages alone, he made 16 successful stops, joint top with another 'keeper and this is a 'keeper with such a solid defence in front of him. Lehmann, in contrast, had to make only 6 or so stops.

[L-type]

Wonder what the bitters would make of it if we won number six next year?

"ifithandntbeenforjuventusandmilangettingrelegated"

Im sorry i didnt read the rest of the responses because I always try and by the time I finish Ive forgotten what i wanted to respond to.  So this bring me to my question.

If Liverpool had lost against AC Milan, would AC Milan be forced to give up the European Championship and Liverpool would be crowned champs instead??

[tubby]

Wonder what the bitters would make of it if we won number six next year?

"ifithandntbeenforjuventusandmilangettingrelegated"

Im sorry i didnt read the rest of the responses because I always try and by the time I finish Ive forgotten what i wanted to respond to.  So this bring me to my question.

If Liverpool had lost against AC Milan, would AC Milan be forced to give up the European Championship and Liverpool would be crowned champs instead??

Perhaps. I though the domestic FA would not tie into UEFA but as there banned form next years competition it would have probabaly worked out liek you sway L type.

[Ace Ventura]

I actually wouldnt be at all bothered about looking at the relegated clubs players.
Buffon Cannavaro & Zambrotta would be the only Juve players that would interest me and we already have a quality keeper so no need for Buffon, Cannavaro will probably follow Capello to Real Madrid and Zambrotta would be too expensive a deal imo.
Milan players will probably stay as they have only the points deduction.
I dont know much about Fiorentina or Lazio, obviously Toni is the stand out player, but after the season he had and the italians winning the world cup i think he would be too expensive.
Camoranesi is nothing special and not the type of player we need. He doesnt have much pace and rarely beats his man so is easy to mark.
If we dont get Alves i would be happy enough with Pennant ad then putting the extra money towards another striker, because i feel we are definately too short in that area still.

[PureLoneWolf]

Not that it is particularly reliable, but the Star (one of the few English papers I can get over here with little effort lol) has us looking at getting Trezeguet, Zambrotta and Camorenesi

Not particularly keen on Trezeguet these days, but he is still pretty young.  Zambrotta and Camorenesi would both be useful though

[SouthCoastShankly]

News of the world this morning has a quote from Rafa saying that he is interested in signing some of the relegated players, even on loan.

Good news

[tubby]

Yes good news but in the case of Juve, they will start of woth 30 points deducted at the start of the season meaning its more than likely they will remain in the 2nd division if not be forced down to the 3rd division.

So my question is if we were to take and Juve players on loan would it be for 2 years ? As they will be straped for cash after losing all the sponsors they will most certinaly need any clubs taking their players on loan to pay 100% of the wages. If that were the case a long loan would seem like a cheaper transfer option unless of course the player ecided to leave after a year.

To be honest I think Zambrotta will be out of out price range and as for Camoranesi, The way he displayed his childish behaviour last season against Arsenal makes me think that he is not good enough to even be mentioned in the same breath as the Liverpool team as he clearly does not display the right Character.

Ibrahimovic could be an option but to me it seems that in his time at Juve it it his past reputaion rather than form that has carried him through his career since leaving Ajax.

I think if Rafa is going to save any mony at all it will be going for a striker than a right winger as they seem closer to the Alves deal than they do to a Kuijt deal.

[Mark 23]

To be honest I think Zambrotta will be out of out price range and as for Camoranesi, The way he displayed his childish behaviour last season against Arsenal makes me think that he is not good enough to even be mentioned in the same breath as the Liverpool team as he clearly does not display the right Character.

Your right there, there is no point going for a good player who hasn't got the character, it's okay being a good player but you need to be a Liverpool player, and that is something not all good players can achieve.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Yes good news but in the case of Juve, they will start of woth 30 points deducted at the start of the season meaning its more than likely they will remain in the 2nd division if not be forced down to the 3rd division.

So my question is if we were to take and Juve players on loan would it be for 2 years ? As they will be straped for cash after losing all the sponsors they will most certinaly need any clubs taking their players on loan to pay 100% of the wages. If that were the case a long loan would seem like a cheaper transfer option unless of course the player ecided to leave after a year.

To be honest I think Zambrotta will be out of out price range and as for Camoranesi, The way he displayed his childish behaviour last season against Arsenal makes me think that he is not good enough to even be mentioned in the same breath as the Liverpool team as he clearly does not display the right Character.

Ibrahimovic could be an option but to me it seems that in his time at Juve it it his past reputaion rather than form that has carried him through his career since leaving Ajax.

I think if Rafa is going to save any mony at all it will be going for a striker than a right winger as they seem closer to the Alves deal than they do to a Kuijt deal.

BBC Sport has linked us with Trezeguet and Camoranesi. I'd think Trezeguet could do a good job

[desperado0831]

If the italian phone scandal didn't happened, Italy won't grab the wc title as well. This is my self comment but i think we shouldn't focus on the italian like many others did. Yea,i have to confess that italian did their best and show their class in the wc tournament but i don't think that we should splash cash on it.

Four top clubs suffered in the judgement and sure not all of them will start thinking to pull out their main players on the transfer list. Kaka and co pledges their future to the club with no many options for us in the Fiorentina and Lazio. Juventus is the club which will only let the money in.

Not many names appear on my mind despite the scandal. Only One - Fabio Cannavaro. Cannavaro is a consistent player in the field and he can work out with many type of circumstance. The only problem is the price tag on him. If 8-12m listed, then we should never give up the war, but Chelsea and RM will be a main threat while ManUtd also eyeing the italy's captain.



Second Name - Camoranesi for right winger.

[redsince2001]

Benitez admits Trezeguet interest
Sunday July 16 2006
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Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez is interested in the players affected by the matchfixing scandal, with David Trezeguet among his targets. 

Following the relegation of Juventus, Fiorentina and Lazio and with AC Milan losing their Champions League status, many of Serie A's best players should soon become available for transfer.

And Benitez confirmed that his club were keeping a close eye on proceedings in Italy.

"There are a lot of good players in these teams and they interest us," he declared.

"We do not have much money so we must use our imagination in the transfer market, I still hope to bring in two or three more new players."

The Reds boss also stated his interest in Juventus striker David Trezeguet, despite his lack of action at the World Cup.

"All the Juventus players are good, including Trezeguet.

"He didn't play much in the World Cup but that is because France have so many good forwards."

Benitez has offloaded Fernando Morientes to Valencia and Djibril Cisse has been loaned to Marseille, and the acquistion of Trezeguet would certainly bolster his strikeforce.

But the Frenchman is not the only player Benitez has been following, with reports linking Liverpool with his team-mate Mauro Camoranesi.

"The players will be a better price now than they would have been three months ago,"

The imaginative option from Benitez's point of view would clearly be a season-long loan for a player of Trezeguet's quality as Juventus brace themselves for the loss of several key players in the wake of their demotion from Serie A in the match fixing scandal that has rocked Italian football.

With Benitez also looking to off-load Salif Diao - who played in Saturday's 2-0 friendly win at Wrexham - and full-back Djimi Traore, more cash could soon be added to his transfer fund.

But he is already getting a good return from £6million signing Craig Bellamy, who scored on his debut at the Racecourse ground.

Bellamy revealed his excitement at soon to be linking up with the Liverpool's top stars when they return this week from delayed holidays to join pre-season training.

He said: "There's a lot more to come from me, and there's a lot more players to come back in to the squad. But from my point of view, yes, there's plenty more from me.

"There's so many to return to training, Gerrard, Carragher, Crouch, Alonso, Luis Garcia, Kewell, Sissoko, the list of really fine players is almost endless.

"And even a couple more of the new boys, Gonzalez and Aurelio. Everywhere you look here there's class and quality."

The boyhood Liverpool fan is also confident of the season ahead.

He said: "I feel that with the manager and coaching staff that we have, and the amount of top class players around, this could be a really good season for us. That's my aim, and to get my share of the goals and to help make them too.

"We step up our training this week, there will be more emphasise on power and speed. So far we have done stamina work.

"That's going to be good for me because that's what my game is all about. I hope I can take it on from this first game, and get more goals too. I was certainly pleased with the one at Wrexham on my debut."

He added: "It's been an amazing couple of weeks for me, and I just want it to continue like that. The fans took to me straight away, and I appreciate that, but then Liverpool fans always give their own players - particularly new ones - tremendous support.

"I expect goals from myself, that's what I will be trying to do right from the start."

[tubby]

It would appear that Rafa is actually pursuing David Trezeguet. Im not not knowledgeble on him to be honest but isnt he a sort of target man himself? If he is then I guess it would make sense for Rafa to have 2 target men in Crouch and Trezeguet.

[Redbird7]

that's good news.
honestly i don't know well about him,but i hear he is a good player.
the point is whether he can play in this premier leage as well as in juve.

i think he can

[tubby]

Just as we thought. Cappello is hand picking from the Juve team. Cannavarro and Emerson have gone to Madrid.

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=155401