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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:25 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:End of next season ?! You having a laugh - judging him right here right now - it's his tactics , his set up , playing the players he brought in . Played 7 won 1 drawn 3 lost 3 gs 7 ga 11 gd minus 4 points 6 - nowhere near good enough - manager is not good enough- his track record showed he wasn't good enough and his set up and tactics are showing he isn't good enough . Unless he changes he won't last until end of next season .

Who would you have replace him?
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Postby metalhead » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:26 pm

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Emerald Red wrote:He can't be defended. How anyone can defend his style of football and tactics is beyond me. If he remains here for another 10 games, we'll be rock bottom. The five fixtures from the Birmingham game onwards, I predicted no more than 7 points and some people obviously thought I was nuts, because Sunderland and Blackpool were absolute bankers, right? Now it looks like we could end up with posibly just 1 point from the 15. Disgraceful. You can see evidince of p*ss poor tactics all over the pitch in every single game we play in. He needs to go. He's just not good enough to steady this ship.

:laugh: ... coming from you

Aye, coming from me! Are you f*cking blind or what? Don't even sit there and talk bollox and even try to defend the sh*te we've all been watching this season. Last year was bad enough, but this tops it all by some way. At least last year we were controlling games. We've yet to control 20 minutes of a match nevermind 45 this season. How many more games does it take for people like yourself to realise Roy is not good enough? See the thing is, I came out instantly even before he was appointed and made my opinion on the matter clear and have not deviated from it. So far, proof has been in the pudding - he's not good enough.

Im stating how fickle you are, last season you would have jumped on the defensive, even on our worst days, blaming the players or the owners, but never the manager. What happened now eh?
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Postby tubby » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:26 pm

Hodgson: I'm responsible

3rd Oct 2010

Roy Hodgson today reflected on Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at the hands of Blackpool and admitted "I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager."
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The Reds boss was hugely disappointed with his side's first-half showing against the Tangerines and accepted he would come under criticism for a third league defeat in seven matches.

Hodgson told his post-match press conference: "It's a bad result and a very bad day. There's nothing more I can say. I can tell by the mood in here (press room), that you understand how bad it is for us.

"We were very anxious to get back on track, to get the three points and lift ourselves up the table. No words or anything I can say can change that situation or make it better.

"It's pointless to try and be positive and say the second half was better and we could have got an equaliser because we lost the game - a game we did not want to lose."

He added: "The fans are entitled to take out their frustrations, lots of things have happened to frustrate them and I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager. When the team does badly criticism will fall my way and I have to accept it."

The Reds made a sluggish start to the proceedings and deservedly went in trailing to goals from Charlie Adam (penalty) and Luke Varney.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos did pull one back for Liverpool as they produced an improved second-half showing, leaving the boss to lament their slow start.

"I suppose I'm in a situation where I'd rather not think about the game," he admitted.  "I suppose in the first half we were correctly punished for a lacklustre play. We had the ball as much as them, but we didn't do anywhere near enough to satisfy my demands, the club's demands or the players' demands on themselves.

"We conceded two goals from counter attack when we were high up the field and lost the ball on the edge of the area. We found ourselves 2-0 down against a team that played well in the first-half.

"In the second half we came out and did our best to turn it around but we only managed to get the one goal.

"I don't know whether the early injury blow of losing Fernando Torres had a psychological effect, but I don't think so. We knew they were an offensive team but if we dealt with their balls forward there would be chances for us to get them turned around and that's what happened in the second period."

Asked about the Reds' current position in the bottom three, he said: "My concerns aren't about relegation. They are about making us play to our full potential. We are only doing it in periods and not from the first to the 90th minute."

"I don't think it's because the players have not got the right attitude at the start of the game - I don't believe that. But at the start of games we are not at the level of intensity that we are in the second half of matches. We shouldn't need to go behind before we get the type of reaction we had."

The boss was also quizzed about his thoughts on his first few months at the helm.

He said: "It's been strange. The early part wasn't that bad - we had some good results in Europe.

"We also had a stroke of luck in the league games, but that has deserted us in the last few weeks. I suppose everything I think is conditioned by the last few weeks. We went out of the Carling Cup to Northampton, we failed to win a home game last week and, even worse, we have lost a home game this week against a team that has just been promoted.

"At the moment it looks bleak. It's very difficult for me to put a brave or bright face upon it. There is a lot of work to do and things we need to sort out.

"I can only take heart from the fact that the spirit of the team is still there. I don't think I could have asked any more of them in the second half than they gave the club and the fans. The fans did well to get behind us and I'm sure we all would have loved an extra 15 minutes, but we didn't get it."
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:26 pm

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Benny The Noon wrote:End of next season ?! You having a laugh - judging him right here right now - it's his tactics , his set up , playing the players he brought in . Played 7 won 1 drawn 3 lost 3 gs 7 ga 11 gd minus 4 points 6 - nowhere near good enough - manager is not good enough- his track record showed he wasn't good enough and his set up and tactics are showing he isn't good enough . Unless he changes he won't last until end of next season .

Who would you have replace him?

The same person I wanted when I realised Rafa was going - Kenny .
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Postby rocky29 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:26 pm

mascherano aquilani gerrard joe cole kuyt torres. No u tell me that lineup is worse than the current one. Joe cole was free so all roy had to do was a backup striker.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:27 pm

LFC2007 wrote:It's interesting that those who were extremely pro-Rafa used to vent a lot more at the players themselves instead of the man responsible for purchasing players, training and selecting the team. That anger is no longer apparent in their posts ("fecking Gerrard" etc..) and is instead focussed on the man who picks the team, trains the players etc.. Similarly, those who were very much more critical of the previous manager used to take the opposite stance to the one they presently take. Interesting insight into people's biases.

Who didn't? Go and dig out a few of my posts from last season. I ripped into players left right and centre. The evidence is there to be seen on the pitch as plain as day this season. The systems, tactics, they aren't working. That's the manager's job. He sent that squad out today to do a containment job on Blackpool at home! How can that be defended? Roy has a tendency to do that, go 2-0 down, then send them out second half with a more attack approach. It's his tactics that are at fault. Simple as that.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:28 pm

metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
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Emerald Red wrote:He can't be defended. How anyone can defend his style of football and tactics is beyond me. If he remains here for another 10 games, we'll be rock bottom. The five fixtures from the Birmingham game onwards, I predicted no more than 7 points and some people obviously thought I was nuts, because Sunderland and Blackpool were absolute bankers, right? Now it looks like we could end up with posibly just 1 point from the 15. Disgraceful. You can see evidince of p*ss poor tactics all over the pitch in every single game we play in. He needs to go. He's just not good enough to steady this ship.

:laugh: ... coming from you

Aye, coming from me! Are you f*cking blind or what? Don't even sit there and talk bollox and even try to defend the sh*te we've all been watching this season. Last year was bad enough, but this tops it all by some way. At least last year we were controlling games. We've yet to control 20 minutes of a match nevermind 45 this season. How many more games does it take for people like yourself to realise Roy is not good enough? See the thing is, I came out instantly even before he was appointed and made my opinion on the matter clear and have not deviated from it. So far, proof has been in the pudding - he's not good enough.

Im stating how fickle you are, last season you would have jumped on the defensive, even on our worst days, blaming the players or the owners, but never the manager. What happened now eh?

Roy doesnt have a magic wand...
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Postby dundreamin » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:29 pm

Am afraid the ship is sinking,but taking too much water on board. Therefore we are going under SOS SOS SOS
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Postby Big Niall » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:30 pm

His recoord over 7 games is poor but how can you sack a manager after just 7 games, how can any manager undo all the damage done before he took over in just 7 games?

Is 2 seasons too much to give a manger? (personally, I say 3, but I won't push it)
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Postby metalhead » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:30 pm

bavlondon wrote:Hodgson: I'm responsible

3rd Oct 2010

Roy Hodgson today reflected on Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at the hands of Blackpool and admitted "I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager."
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The Reds boss was hugely disappointed with his side's first-half showing against the Tangerines and accepted he would come under criticism for a third league defeat in seven matches.

Hodgson told his post-match press conference: "It's a bad result and a very bad day. There's nothing more I can say. I can tell by the mood in here (press room), that you understand how bad it is for us.

"We were very anxious to get back on track, to get the three points and lift ourselves up the table. No words or anything I can say can change that situation or make it better.

"It's pointless to try and be positive and say the second half was better and we could have got an equaliser because we lost the game - a game we did not want to lose."

He added: "The fans are entitled to take out their frustrations, lots of things have happened to frustrate them and I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager. When the team does badly criticism will fall my way and I have to accept it."

The Reds made a sluggish start to the proceedings and deservedly went in trailing to goals from Charlie Adam (penalty) and Luke Varney.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos did pull one back for Liverpool as they produced an improved second-half showing, leaving the boss to lament their slow start.

"I suppose I'm in a situation where I'd rather not think about the game," he admitted.  "I suppose in the first half we were correctly punished for a lacklustre play. We had the ball as much as them, but we didn't do anywhere near enough to satisfy my demands, the club's demands or the players' demands on themselves.

"We conceded two goals from counter attack when we were high up the field and lost the ball on the edge of the area. We found ourselves 2-0 down against a team that played well in the first-half.

"In the second half we came out and did our best to turn it around but we only managed to get the one goal.

"I don't know whether the early injury blow of losing Fernando Torres had a psychological effect, but I don't think so. We knew they were an offensive team but if we dealt with their balls forward there would be chances for us to get them turned around and that's what happened in the second period."

Asked about the Reds' current position in the bottom three, he said: "My concerns aren't about relegation. They are about making us play to our full potential. We are only doing it in periods and not from the first to the 90th minute."

"I don't think it's because the players have not got the right attitude at the start of the game - I don't believe that. But at the start of games we are not at the level of intensity that we are in the second half of matches. We shouldn't need to go behind before we get the type of reaction we had."

The boss was also quizzed about his thoughts on his first few months at the helm.

He said: "It's been strange. The early part wasn't that bad - we had some good results in Europe.

"We also had a stroke of luck in the league games, but that has deserted us in the last few weeks. I suppose everything I think is conditioned by the last few weeks. We went out of the Carling Cup to Northampton, we failed to win a home game last week and, even worse, we have lost a home game this week against a team that has just been promoted.

"At the moment it looks bleak. It's very difficult for me to put a brave or bright face upon it. There is a lot of work to do and things we need to sort out.

"I can only take heart from the fact that the spirit of the team is still there. I don't think I could have asked any more of them in the second half than they gave the club and the fans. The fans did well to get behind us and I'm sure we all would have loved an extra 15 minutes, but we didn't get it."

Ok.. so all of you were wrong

where is the ''we played good im satisfied with performance'' part?

At least he has the b@lls to say he f*cked up
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:30 pm

metalhead wrote:
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Emerald Red wrote:He can't be defended. How anyone can defend his style of football and tactics is beyond me. If he remains here for another 10 games, we'll be rock bottom. The five fixtures from the Birmingham game onwards, I predicted no more than 7 points and some people obviously thought I was nuts, because Sunderland and Blackpool were absolute bankers, right? Now it looks like we could end up with posibly just 1 point from the 15. Disgraceful. You can see evidince of p*ss poor tactics all over the pitch in every single game we play in. He needs to go. He's just not good enough to steady this ship.

:laugh: ... coming from you

Aye, coming from me! Are you f*cking blind or what? Don't even sit there and talk bollox and even try to defend the sh*te we've all been watching this season. Last year was bad enough, but this tops it all by some way. At least last year we were controlling games. We've yet to control 20 minutes of a match nevermind 45 this season. How many more games does it take for people like yourself to realise Roy is not good enough? See the thing is, I came out instantly even before he was appointed and made my opinion on the matter clear and have not deviated from it. So far, proof has been in the pudding - he's not good enough.

Im stating how fickle you are, last season you would have jumped on the defensive, even on our worst days, blaming the players or the owners, but never the manager. What happened now eh?

How can someone be fickle when even before the man was made manager, their minds were already made up? It's got f*ck all to do with ficklness. It's just foresight and knowledge.
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Postby Redangel » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:31 pm

End of next season !! God only knows where we would be then. At this rate we are headed for relegation 'cos I can't see anything that is going to change it in the near future.
We need to grow some b*lls and do what is necessary for this football club !!
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:32 pm

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bavlondon wrote:Hodgson: I'm responsible

3rd Oct 2010

Roy Hodgson today reflected on Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at the hands of Blackpool and admitted "I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager."
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The Reds boss was hugely disappointed with his side's first-half showing against the Tangerines and accepted he would come under criticism for a third league defeat in seven matches.

Hodgson told his post-match press conference: "It's a bad result and a very bad day. There's nothing more I can say. I can tell by the mood in here (press room), that you understand how bad it is for us.

"We were very anxious to get back on track, to get the three points and lift ourselves up the table. No words or anything I can say can change that situation or make it better.

"It's pointless to try and be positive and say the second half was better and we could have got an equaliser because we lost the game - a game we did not want to lose."

He added: "The fans are entitled to take out their frustrations, lots of things have happened to frustrate them and I'm the one responsible because I'm the team manager. When the team does badly criticism will fall my way and I have to accept it."

The Reds made a sluggish start to the proceedings and deservedly went in trailing to goals from Charlie Adam (penalty) and Luke Varney.

Sotirios Kyrgiakos did pull one back for Liverpool as they produced an improved second-half showing, leaving the boss to lament their slow start.

"I suppose I'm in a situation where I'd rather not think about the game," he admitted.  "I suppose in the first half we were correctly punished for a lacklustre play. We had the ball as much as them, but we didn't do anywhere near enough to satisfy my demands, the club's demands or the players' demands on themselves.

"We conceded two goals from counter attack when we were high up the field and lost the ball on the edge of the area. We found ourselves 2-0 down against a team that played well in the first-half.

"In the second half we came out and did our best to turn it around but we only managed to get the one goal.

"I don't know whether the early injury blow of losing Fernando Torres had a psychological effect, but I don't think so. We knew they were an offensive team but if we dealt with their balls forward there would be chances for us to get them turned around and that's what happened in the second period."

Asked about the Reds' current position in the bottom three, he said: "My concerns aren't about relegation. They are about making us play to our full potential. We are only doing it in periods and not from the first to the 90th minute."

"I don't think it's because the players have not got the right attitude at the start of the game - I don't believe that. But at the start of games we are not at the level of intensity that we are in the second half of matches. We shouldn't need to go behind before we get the type of reaction we had."

The boss was also quizzed about his thoughts on his first few months at the helm.

He said: "It's been strange. The early part wasn't that bad - we had some good results in Europe.

"We also had a stroke of luck in the league games, but that has deserted us in the last few weeks. I suppose everything I think is conditioned by the last few weeks. We went out of the Carling Cup to Northampton, we failed to win a home game last week and, even worse, we have lost a home game this week against a team that has just been promoted.

"At the moment it looks bleak. It's very difficult for me to put a brave or bright face upon it. There is a lot of work to do and things we need to sort out.

"I can only take heart from the fact that the spirit of the team is still there. I don't think I could have asked any more of them in the second half than they gave the club and the fans. The fans did well to get behind us and I'm sure we all would have loved an extra 15 minutes, but we didn't get it."

Ok.. so all of you were wrong

where is the ''we played good im satisfied with performance'' part?

At least he has the b@lls to say he f*cked up

Hmm, even he admits. Sure Im fickle.
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Postby aCe' » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:32 pm

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Benny The Noon wrote:End of next season ?! You having a laugh - judging him right here right now - it's his tactics , his set up , playing the players he brought in . Played 7 won 1 drawn 3 lost 3 gs 7 ga 11 gd minus 4 points 6 - nowhere near good enough - manager is not good enough- his track record showed he wasn't good enough and his set up and tactics are showing he isn't good enough . Unless he changes he won't last until end of next season .

Who would you have replace him?

lets not go there again...
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:33 pm

Big Niall wrote:His recoord over 7 games is poor but how can you sack a manager after just 7 games, how can any manager undo all the damage done before he took over in just 7 games?

Is 2 seasons too much to give a manger? (personally, I say 3, but I won't push it)

As Ive said people wanted a miracle, only they dont see it that way. We have been in decline since 2007 and its caught up with us. The 64,000 dollar question is how long, if at all, can this decline be halted?
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