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[bigmick]

No, but it is still 2 dm and a negative tactic that will once again cost us dearly when we are trying to break down teams.

Just throwing away a player with great offensive upside and a full preseason under his belt is madness when looking at the alternatives at cm. Masch, Poulsen, Lucas....
dm, dm, dm... so damn negative and will never work.
That is deploying an "afraid to loose mentality"!

There's defensive midfielders, and there's defensive midfielders. Alonso is a defensive midfielder, but he can pass it. Masherano is a defensive midfielder, and he can't. Lucas is kind of a defensive midfielder, and he can't. Poulsen is a defensive midfielder, and he can.

It's about combinations of players. Gerrard and Poulsen in midfield is massively more attacking than the Lucas/Masherano axis. You'll see it this season, with those two we'll be a good team.

[In and Out]

On Roy Hodgson so far. Net/Gross/take away the number you first thought of/buy someone for 20 mill and then sell him for 12 and it's only cost you 1 mill etc etc, it doesn't matter how you look at it, he hasn't got any money to work with.

[jacdaniel]

No, but it is still 2 dm and a negative tactic that will once again cost us dearly when we are trying to break down teams.

Just throwing away a player with great offensive upside and a full preseason under his belt is madness when looking at the alternatives at cm. Masch, Poulsen, Lucas....
dm, dm, dm... so damn negative and will never work.
That is deploying an "afraid to loose mentality"!

Don't forget though, Gerrard will more than likely be playing there for the bulk of the season. I don't really see what the problem is.

As for Aqua, well the gaffer didn't fancy him and with J.Cole in again I don't see what the problem is.

The problem is that we have no back up really if Gerrard and/or Cole get injured.

The financial situation is still killing us.  how nice would it be to have acquired Cole, Jovan and Poulsen and still be able to keep Aqua and Yossi.

Everyone knows we have a good team but its the squad that lets us down.  unfortunately i think that may also be the case this year.  (especially with all the rumours lately). 

i still think our league position will be determind by the fitness of Torres, Gerrard and even Cole.

[Benny The Noon]

Our first 11 is prob very good and close to good enough to get us back into the CL spot - only weakness is prob left back .

The major problem is how often will that first 11 play ? We need them all fit for the majority of the season because our options behind them are not good enough - Injury to Torres and goal threat is nulified , injury to Cole and creativity is nulified , injury to gerrard and drive is nulified . We just dont have the options to compete IMO .

Also there is who plays in that position behind Torres - Cole or Gerrard - If its cole then he has to produce what gerrard has done over the years - he has to score the goals - double figures IMO .

The lack of options is not all the managers fault due to the financial constraits placed upon him - i can understand bringing in Poulsen to a degree - it seems him and Aquilani have swapped directly but i cant understand Aquilani going let alone going on loan - once he started to play towards the end of the season he scored goals and he created goals and looked a creative player and definatly someone who we could of used this season and i hope we have someone to replace him ASAP .

We are still looking extremely thin squad wise and options wise and we are going to need a lot of luck injury wise this season to help us get back into top 4 .

Will be interesting to see the team for tonight - the midfield needs to be strong against Citys midfield .


And last point - i agree with Mags - only one person seems to be constantly trying to drag our previous manager into debates on the board - evidence is high when looking at Brad Jones thread .

[maguskwt]

You know what Benny, a perfectly reasonable critique like you just posted gonna be accused as having 'pro rafa agenda' or 'veiled agenda against roy' by a particularly childish fanboy of Roy

You just wait and see

[metalhead]

I think Roy is BOSS, what about you?

[Benny The Noon]

You know what Benny, a perfectly reasonable critique like you just posted gonna be accused as having 'pro rafa agenda' or 'veiled agenda against roy' by a particularly childish fanboy of Roy

You just wait and see

No doubt mate no doubt .

Tonight is a big game for players and for manager .

[In and Out]

@ Metalhead, Roy Hodgson IS THE boss and therefore is Boss   

[In and Out]

i cant understand Aquilani going let alone going on loan

As its already been said, if anything Roy would have probably sold him if firstly their were interests in him (the lack of buyers may tell you something for starters). Secondly if he were to sell him he'd find it an arduous task in recouping the money we paid for him, and I know there are many out there who love their net spend, gross spend 'add one on, sell two and make 12 million' or whatever it was that funny fecker Mick said. Point being we'd have been at a huge loss if we sold him but lets not forget it's not as if half of Europe were queing up trying to acquire his services.

Thirdly, his wages are quite high for a squad player something again that probably isn't sustainable for LFC. He was never likely to be a first team player, I think Roy is trying to build his own team up here, is that so unusual. The manager who bought him obviously didn't rate him, and neither may Roy I can't see why everyone is bemoaning the deal, he was never a  key figure and looking at the side it isn't easy to see where he'd fit in. Certainly in my mind he isn't a player who'd be playing as part of the midfield axis. Then how would he get into the hole role with Cole and Gerrard being the primary choices. And if we want to give the youngens ago, Pacheco could prove to be deployed properly for the first time this season.

[Benny The Noon]

No matter what is said about wages and fees etc on a footballing sense only I think it's the wrong decision for him to go when it leaves us short on options - it's as simple as that - he came in end of last season and played well in the midfield - he created goals and he scored goals - simple as that . IMO he gave us a very good option and would of played a lot of games and unless we get a replacement for him IMO it's a wrong decision to get rid of him .

[Benny The Noon]

Anyway this thread is more than about just Aquilani and hope the manger does bring in some more players soon . Or IMO we will struggle this season

[In and Out]

Anyway this thread is more than about just Aquilani and hope the manger does bring in some more players soon . Or IMO we will struggle this season

That's the spirit!

Roy loaned Aqua, many people were whinging about the decision therefore we got stuck on that.

'Footballing sense' only! Doesn't really come into when your club is on the brink of administration, stability does and Roy's the man for it.

[Benny The Noon]

I know stability and money saving was main reason for Hodgson to come in hence why I wanted someone to take us to the next level .

[In and Out]

I know stability and money saving was main reason for Hodgson to come in hence why I wanted someone to take us to the next level .

That's the spirit!

[dawson99]

I know stability and money saving was main reason for Hodgson to come in hence why I wanted someone to take us to the next level .

That's the spirit!

I thought Roy was brought in as a replacement to Rafa to help take us to the next level?