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[GYBS]

the guy has played enough on that pitch to score and play well - how many sitters has he missed ffs ? bloody loads just in the preston match and in the evertone match the guy in 60 mins did nothing of any note whatsoever

[Cool Hand Luke]

Keane plays upfront and Kuyt plays right midfield. You would expect more goals from Keane than Kuyt.

[Fowler_E7]

the guy has played enough on that pitch to score and play well - how many sitters has he missed ffs ? bloody loads just in the preston match and in the evertone match the guy in 60 mins did nothing of any note whatsoever

Im not denying that he has played badly, and that is not all down to Rafa, however he is confidence is low and the manager has contributed to that. In both the games you mentioned, he was put in the side after being dropped the previous game, maybe if he wasnt to impress all the time so he could stay in the side then he would calm down and play his natural game.

[GYBS]

he was in the side lots at the start of the season and was missing sitters then as well

[Fowler_E7]

Keane plays upfront and Kuyt plays right midfield. You would expect more goals from Keane than Kuyt.

so why dosnt Kuyt play upfront seeing as he has so many goals in him. Of course id expect more goals from Keane and i bet he would score more if he played consistently, but he hasnt had the chance yet, so until that happens i will reserve judgement. He is a proven goalscorer in the league, unlike our pathetic strikers, Torres aside obviously

[Fowler_E7]

he was in the side lots at the start of the season and was missing sitters then as well

But as soon as he did get a goal he was dropped, what is the point of that. He was playing average and missing chances, as soon as scores one and gets a boost he is taken off and then made to sit the next one out, great thinking that.

[Zidane]

How about we agree to disagree this has been going on for like 3 pages now?

[GYBS]

yep time out

[Fowler_E7]

yep time out

good i win   

[bigmick]

who has shown he is better than kuyt on the right this season ?


Answer = NO ONE

I'm just reading through this and there are some funny ones. Quite why guys are comparing Keane's game time to Kuyt's is a mystery, they aren't connected.

Keane's statrs posted up by Redman in Wales which detail each time he's scored he's been hauled off and dropped in the next game are a damning indictment of the management style for me. I said while we were doing it that it was absolutely ridiculous, and it was. Does anybody anywhere seriously believe that's the best way to handle a new striker? A striker who has moved house, shifted his kids, is getting to know his teammates, the style of training, the manager, the systems etc etc? A bloke who has been signed for a huge fee and is looking to justify it, does anybody anywhere think that handling him this way gives us the very best chance of seeing a return on his investment?

Forget about all this sh!t about him being "given a good go", I'm talking specifically about the occasions when he's managed to score a goal. Haul him off and drop him in the next game? Five times or whatever it is? If that is not ridiculously bad man management then I simply don't know what is. I suppose Keane should thank his lucky stars he didn't score more or he'd have played less .

And people defend that? Do me favour. And now, surprise surprise he is not only completely devoid of any confidence and playing absloutely sh!te (who would have thought it eh?), but he is by some accounts kicking off. Brillinat piece of management from start to finish. Fuirstly we pay 20 million quid for a 28 year old who wouldn't get into our best team even on his best form, then we feck him off to the extent where he aint worth two bob to us, and ain't worth 10 mill to anyone else. Tactical genius.

Oh and the reason i quoted GYBS's defence of Kuyt number 100436, was that I agree with him. Mind you, in fairness it's a little bit like saying "who has shown themselves better than Riena in goal all season?". Kuyt's played every match but I agree that in a 4-5-1 (only), at right midfield (only) and as long as Gerrard and Alonso are playing, he's our best bet.

[Reg]

Harry hails 'fantastic' Keane - White Hart Lane boss keeping tabs on Liverpool flop    Last updated: 26th January 2009

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp admits he would be a 'liar' if he said he would not like to see Robbie Keane return to White Hart Lane.

The £20million Liverpool striker has flopped at Anfield since swapping North London for Merseyside in the summer and rumour is rife that he could be sold in January.

Keane was left out of Rafa Benitez's squad for Sunday's FA Cup draw with Everton, increasing speculation that the Reds boss is ready to cut his loses.

The Republic of Ireland international has been strongly linked with a move back to Tottenham, who are also chasing Sunderland's Kenwyne Jones, and Spurs boss Redknapp admits he would be interested if Keane was for sale.

"I wouldn't sit here and say I wouldn't like to have Robbie Keane at my football club, I'd be a liar, but he belongs to Liverpool so it is not an option unfortunately," Redknapp said.

"As a player and a person I have a lot of time for Robbie Keane. I think he's fantastic."
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Stick the knife in with a headline like "Liverpool Flop"  eh??

[LegBarnes]

who has shown he is better than kuyt on the right this season ?


Answer = NO ONE

I'm just reading through this and there are some funny ones. Quite why guys are comparing Keane's game time to Kuyt's is a mystery, they aren't connected.

Keane's statrs posted up by Redman in Wales which detail each time he's scored he's been hauled off and dropped in the next game are a damning indictment of the management style for me. I said while we were doing it that it was absolutely ridiculous, and it was. Does anybody anywhere seriously believe that's the best way to handle a new striker? A striker who has moved house, shifted his kids, is getting to know his teammates, the style of training, the manager, the systems etc etc? A bloke who has been signed for a huge fee and is looking to justify it, does anybody anywhere think that handling him this way gives us the very best chance of seeing a return on his investment?

Forget about all this sh!t about him being "given a good go", I'm talking specifically about the occasions when he's managed to score a goal. Haul him off and drop him in the next game? Five times or whatever it is? If that is not ridiculously bad man management then I simply don't know what is. I suppose Keane should thank his lucky stars he didn't score more or he'd have played less .

And people defend that? Do me favour. And now, surprise surprise he is not only completely devoid of any confidence and playing absloutely sh!te (who would have thought it eh?), but he is by some accounts kicking off. Brillinat piece of management from start to finish. Fuirstly we pay 20 million quid for a 28 year old who wouldn't get into our best team even on his best form, then we feck him off to the extent where he aint worth two bob to us, and ain't worth 10 mill to anyone else. Tactical genius.

Oh and the reason i quoted GYBS's defence of Kuyt number 100436, was that I agree with him. Mind you, in fairness it's a little bit like saying "who has shown themselves better than Riena in goal all season?". Kuyt's played every match but I agree that in a 4-5-1 (only), at right midfield (only) and as long as Gerrard and Alonso are playing, he's our best bet.

thats is nail head on or something like that.

Sorry allt he flies got in way for sec couldn't see ws typings !

[Madmax]

Oh and the reason i quoted GYBS's defence of Kuyt number 100436, was that I agree with him. Mind you, in fairness it's a little bit like saying "who has shown themselves better than Riena in goal all season?". Kuyt's played every match but I agree that in a 4-5-1 (only), at right midfield (only) and as long as Gerrard and Alonso are playing, he's our best bet.

What i would like to know is what people think if keane had playd right mid instead of kuyt?

Also i think kuyt maybe our best bet in right mid but a change is needed in the summer for a natural class right mid player. Anyone who does'nt agree with that could FO.. 
Next season if we do get a good right mid player i think kuyt will be an extra at the squad.

[roberto green]

I have a funny feeling Keane could well go back to spurs which will see us not having to pay the rest of his fee we owe spurs and a sneaky little feeling we could be getting Saviola on loan,Just a rumour that has been knocking about.

[Fowler_E7]

who has shown he is better than kuyt on the right this season ?


Answer = NO ONE

I'm just reading through this and there are some funny ones. Quite why guys are comparing Keane's game time to Kuyt's is a mystery, they aren't connected.

Keane's statrs posted up by Redman in Wales which detail each time he's scored he's been hauled off and dropped in the next game are a damning indictment of the management style for me. I said while we were doing it that it was absolutely ridiculous, and it was. Does anybody anywhere seriously believe that's the best way to handle a new striker? A striker who has moved house, shifted his kids, is getting to know his teammates, the style of training, the manager, the systems etc etc? A bloke who has been signed for a huge fee and is looking to justify it, does anybody anywhere think that handling him this way gives us the very best chance of seeing a return on his investment?

Forget about all this sh!t about him being "given a good go", I'm talking specifically about the occasions when he's managed to score a goal. Haul him off and drop him in the next game? Five times or whatever it is? If that is not ridiculously bad man management then I simply don't know what is. I suppose Keane should thank his lucky stars he didn't score more or he'd have played less .

And people defend that? Do me favour. And now, surprise surprise he is not only completely devoid of any confidence and playing absloutely sh!te (who would have thought it eh?), but he is by some accounts kicking off. Brillinat piece of management from start to finish. Fuirstly we pay 20 million quid for a 28 year old who wouldn't get into our best team even on his best form, then we feck him off to the extent where he aint worth two bob to us, and ain't worth 10 mill to anyone else. Tactical genius.

Oh and the reason i quoted GYBS's defence of Kuyt number 100436, was that I agree with him. Mind you, in fairness it's a little bit like saying "who has shown themselves better than Riena in goal all season?". Kuyt's played every match but I agree that in a 4-5-1 (only), at right midfield (only) and as long as Gerrard and Alonso are playing, he's our best bet.

agree with your stance on the Keane saga, pretty much sums up my own feelings. I think he has been shafted good and proper,as for Kuyt sorry, but no amount of hard work and energy is gonna make up for his shocking lack of quality. How do you see the Keane story unfolding?