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[Reg]

Before we allow wokism to take control of our senses.....

However they punish LFC and the other English clubs, they better hand out exactly the same for Juve, Real, Barca and the 2 Milan clubs.

This isn't a witch hunt against our clubs, this has to include all 12 clubs and especially Real Madrid and Juve who were instrumental in putting this together. Florentino Perez was the chairman of the new ESL.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Not surprised at all that we are one of the ringleaders in this. Both apologies by Glazer and Henry were pathetic and laughable. After 10 and 15 years of ownership they come out with that 
That CL deal that was signed runs from 24 till 33 so expect the same shenanigans then. This attempt was years in the making and a full on power grab for the lot.

They want to boot Werner off the premier league board    He is every bit as bad as Henry imo. A total buffoon of a man. We have the money to match anyone in football is as bad as a spade in the ground in 30 days.

Not a hope of getting them out either. Liverpool F.C is their best asset and they wont give it up. FSG will still exist long after Henry and Werner are gone. Both are in their 70's and Like Glazer did they could hand running of the business over to the kids.
Getting the other 2 out was completely different as the bank had them by the balls. Different situation here with this lot.

Mad Mike  He was actually a British Dude!!

lol, I could have sworn they used to say he was Irish (i remember it as a kid) so I just checked it out and apparently he was born to Irish parents in India but learned his ‘trade’ in the British Army. Knowing the telly over here especially back then how they described him probably depended on the coup, if it was a ‘good coup’ so to speak he was British, if it was a bad coup - he was Irish! He was the inspiration for Richard Burton’s character in the film Wild Geese, or that might have been John W Henry, not sure now!

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Before we allow wokism to take control of our senses.....

However they punish LFC and the other English clubs, they better hand out exactly the same for Juve, Real, Barca and the 2 Milan clubs.

This isn't a witch hunt against our clubs, this has to include all 12 clubs and especially Real Madrid and Juve who were instrumental in putting this together. Florentino Perez was the chairman of the new ESL.

I’m not sure they will punish the clubs Reg, as they were saying on Sky yesterday no one at the clubs knew about this or agreed with it, indeed a lot of people who work at the breakaway clubs risked their jobs by speaking out against it.
Don’t forget bar Daniel Levy none of these owners go near the clubs, Abramovitch used to but by all accounts he hasn’t watched Chelsea play at Stamford Bridge in years, the fella who owns City has only been to one game in Manchester in over a decade.

[leeroy74]

It's alright everyone lets forgive and forget.

Henry has so much courage coming out and apologising for his actions. Lion heart, truly a man of the ages, one that we should all look up and aspire to be.

He is taking full responsibility, don't you know, for everything, absolutely everything. What more is there to say.

The confidence in FSG is back, they are here to stay and will protect the sanctimony of our club, its traditions, the fans, our coach and players. Such a good, good man. A decent man....................... [social media bot breaks down at this point]

CRY ME A FU.CK.ING RIVER, PEOPLE ARE SO SO STUPID TO KEEP FALLING FOR THIS GARBAGE.         

So whats your big plan then? What are you suggesting? The owners sell up? Who to? Who is going to pay the money they'll want to sell out? They've apologised and that's that.

Dry your eyes and move on Karen.

Ah the old simpleton argument of 'but there is no one better' so let's stick with these pack of lying cun.ts.

I'm surprised you didn't add the racist cr.ap I have been reading about on other forums like "It could be worse we could fall into the hands of the Chinese or Arabs", because you know white men billionaires are so much more trustworthy then these other regimes......... 

So what do YOU suggest?

[Lallana in Pyjamas]

How many people realise that this is the 4th attempt at European Super League


Out previous owners connected to the club - Moores also were involved previously in attempting to set up a European Super League to combat UEFA


It doesn’t matter who the owners are they would have also gone with the big clubs. Just like any club would have done in the end

[eds]

So what do YOU suggest?

I know the 50+1 German model isn't perfect but it's a whole lot better than letting the likes of these billionaire's run amok and spread their cancer further into the sport.

In order to do that there would need to be massive reforms.

[eds]

Before we allow wokism to take control of our senses.....

However they punish LFC and the other English clubs, they better hand out exactly the same for Juve, Real, Barca and the 2 Milan clubs.

This isn't a witch hunt against our clubs, this has to include all 12 clubs and especially Real Madrid and Juve who were instrumental in putting this together. Florentino Perez was the chairman of the new ESL.

Punish     

What are you talking about Reg, they aren't being punished, quiet the opposite they are getting rewarded for their behaviour with this sneaky deal they cut with UEFA and getting more $$$ from CL revenue.

And they will continue to act this way because the regulating bodies that are meant to be charge; the FA, UEFA and FIFA have shown how toothless and/or bent they are in curtailing the likes Abu Dhabi City FC and Paris St Qatar.

This idiotic super league is inevitable if things don't change.

[Penguins]

FSG are like the robbers who regret that they were caught red handed, not the fact they attempted the robbery...

[Lallana in Pyjamas]

So what do YOU suggest?

I know the 50+1 German model isn't perfect but it's a whole lot better than letting the likes of these billionaire's run amok and spread their cancer further into the sport.

In order to do that there would need to be massive reforms.

Is that the model that has allowed one club to dominate for decades , cherry picking from all the other clubs.

And how do Liepzig and Hoffenhiem come into that ?

[Lallana in Pyjamas]

Before we allow wokism to take control of our senses.....

However they punish LFC and the other English clubs, they better hand out exactly the same for Juve, Real, Barca and the 2 Milan clubs.

This isn't a witch hunt against our clubs, this has to include all 12 clubs and especially Real Madrid and Juve who were instrumental in putting this together. Florentino Perez was the chairman of the new ESL.

Punish     

What are you talking about Reg, they aren't being punished, quiet the opposite they are getting rewarded for their behaviour with this sneaky deal they cut with UEFA and getting more $$$ from CL revenue.

And they will continue to act this way because the regulating bodies that are meant to be charge; the FA, UEFA and FIFA have shown how toothless and/or bent they are in curtailing the likes Abu Dhabi City FC and Paris St Qatar.

This idiotic super league is inevitable if things don't change.

Clubs and owners have been doing that for ages


Did you say the same when in 98 they were able to get more from UEFA ?

[red till i die!!]

How many people realise that this is the 4th attempt at European Super League


Out previous owners connected to the club - Moores also were involved previously in attempting to set up a European Super League to combat UEFA


It doesn’t matter who the owners are they would have also gone with the big clubs. Just like any club would have done in the end

Dont remember anyone ever trying to pull this off before. I can remember plenty talking about it but no one ever tried this.

This isnt about ancient ownership, it's about the current one. Trying to drag previous owners into it holds absolutely no weight in what they have done now.

There is a big difference between being led by the hand and organising it. FSG were up to their necks in it and didnt give a shyte about what they were doing which was destroying football as we know it. Trying to create their own closed shop. It was a bad act altogether and a self serving decision by FSG.

UEFA had their instances of corruption and it no doubt still exists but they are made out to be the bad guys when all they do is try to keep these greedy fooks happy. They do more for the game than that cabal ever would. They support thousands of clubs through various Grant's and programs in smaller countries. They provide coaching courses and funding to them so while they might have a few people in it looking after themselves it's still a system for all.  That's a massive difference to 12 clubs with known charlatans trying to control it all.

They bully the other clubs in the league, the tried to bully the english system with project big picture while in the meantime bullying UEFA. Our owners are involved in the lot of it by choice motivated by greed.

FSG dont care about the fans and this is a mess of their own making so it's up to them to wash their own hands of it. No proper Fan of this club should be doing it for them.

Unless your a part of the PR machine ?   

[supersub]

Would the FSG outers please tell me which Premier League football club model they would prefer Liverpool to adapt....note Premier League football model not a German model

[kazza]

If we look at owners in the PL we will find not too many better. Let’s take top six teams to start with. Arsenal and Tottenham have owners that are as tight as feck and are always chasing CL football as a goal. The Glazers have been milking ManUre for years and have that club in so much debt, we know more than anyone that that is not a model we want to follow. Chelsea have an owner that is as corrupt an any Russian that made billions over night and lives in Israel, also he tinkers so much with that team that considering how much he has spent, Chelsea should have more trophies. Then you have City https://gawker.com/5224551/uae-sheikh-in-crazy-torture-tape sure they spent a ton but they dont come from good stock, they are stealing their country’s  wealth. Then you have the other clubs in the premier and none of their owners have the money to match our ambition.

In contrast, our owners bought this club on the brink of bankruptcy for 350 million, the club is worth much more now and fair play to them as they increased their net worth. They have improved Anfield significantly and continue to do so, they gave us a new world class training center, expanded our fan base world wide and increased our revenue and frankly made us a top club again. Most importantly we follow a model of economic sustainability all the while making us the top team in the world, injuries this season aside. Easy to break, much harder to build so for those saying get rid of the owners, I’d like to hear a good alternative.

[supersub]

never bite the hand that feeds you........because she will kick you in the nuts and make you wash the dishes

[red till i die!!]

Would the FSG outers please tell me which Premier League football club model they would prefer Liverpool to adapt....note Premier League football model not a German model

Not an FSG lover all but if they went I wouldnt be sad.

Is the problem really about what model we should follow ? Is it not about the model that they are all following that needs to be addressed ?.

Is it not about getting a better model where the big six dont control everything in the pursuit of greed ? Their greed is unprecedented trying to ruin the english and european pyramids for their own gain.

The German model is good because it ensures the clubs remain grounded or at least gives the fans a proper voice is decisions like this.
We are not going to get that model but they need to implement something different than what currently operates.
A situation like this should never be allowed to threaten the game again. A decision made by self serving owners who dont care about the implications of what they do.

Proper regulation is needed but the fans wont drive it alone. The league has gotten completely out of control like a capitalist wet dream. The government weighs in enough with threats so now is finally the time to act on some of them. The platform and support exist now for proper change if the will exists to achieve it.

No one is asking that the clubs be taken off them or that they cant make money either. People just want an end to this endless greed and a better level playing field for all. You wont get that and will only get more repeats of this stuff if they are left unchecked.

About having new owners. Is the only reason people dont want some because you dont know what you get?. We already jumped from the frying pan into the fire 10 years ago so maybe the next jump could allow us to put our feet back on the ground without getting them burnt.