Liverpool FC Forum

[heimdall]

Before Rafa arrived the biggest spending was Cisse at £14m, he's already spent more than that on Johnson, Mascherano, Keane, Torres and Aquilani.

Okay but we first of all need to adjust for inflation.  Players cost more across the board than they did in 2004 and so comparing transfer fees is a bit of a mug's game.

Second, we have to apply the 'you get what you pay for' principle to a certain degree.  Yes, Rafa paid more for Torres than Cisse but I don't think anyone would argue with the wisdom of doing so.  Quality costs money...even if it is quality that is still blossoming (as would seem to be the case with Johnson and, hopefully, Aquilani).

I'm not saying Rafa hasn't made mistakes in the transfer market.  Of course he has--all managers do.  What I am saying is that, for a team that finished so close last season and is trying to clear that final hurdle this season, spending  a couple of million here or there on bargain buys and stop-gaps is not generally the recipe for success.  That goes double when we lose a nailed on starter and key performer in a vital position.  Rafa had no choice but to replace Alonso and I think he was right to look to a potentially top class player to do so--especially with Barry swerving us for City.  Sure, we could have spent a tenner on the likes of Kevin Nolan and earmarked the rest of the Alonso money for other areas of the team but would that have been a wise use of funds?  Not for me, no.

So would you prefer that the club goes even further into debt to fund player purchases??

how much have Manure spent THIS transfer season, how about Arsenal and the Chavs??

[bunglemark2]

Is this not a Skrtel thread ??

[Greavesie]

Is this not a Skrtel thread ??

used to be

[Bad Bob]

Before Rafa arrived the biggest spending was Cisse at £14m, he's already spent more than that on Johnson, Mascherano, Keane, Torres and Aquilani.

Okay but we first of all need to adjust for inflation.  Players cost more across the board than they did in 2004 and so comparing transfer fees is a bit of a mug's game.

Second, we have to apply the 'you get what you pay for' principle to a certain degree.  Yes, Rafa paid more for Torres than Cisse but I don't think anyone would argue with the wisdom of doing so.  Quality costs money...even if it is quality that is still blossoming (as would seem to be the case with Johnson and, hopefully, Aquilani).

I'm not saying Rafa hasn't made mistakes in the transfer market.  Of course he has--all managers do.  What I am saying is that, for a team that finished so close last season and is trying to clear that final hurdle this season, spending  a couple of million here or there on bargain buys and stop-gaps is not generally the recipe for success.  That goes double when we lose a nailed on starter and key performer in a vital position.  Rafa had no choice but to replace Alonso and I think he was right to look to a potentially top class player to do so--especially with Barry swerving us for City.  Sure, we could have spent a tenner on the likes of Kevin Nolan and earmarked the rest of the Alonso money for other areas of the team but would that have been a wise use of funds?  Not for me, no.

So would you prefer that the club goes even further into debt to fund player purchases??

how much have Manure spent THIS transfer season, how about Arsenal and the Chavs??

No, I'd prefer these two sold up and we got an owner who could afford to finance a reasonable transfer kitty every summer (actually building a new stadium rather than paying millions for artists' conceptions every few years wouldn't go amiss either).  To me, that's in the neighbourhood of 20 million pounds (adjusted for inflation over time) PLUS whatever money is raised from sales.  (It would not include money for improved contracts, BTW).  That's the price of staying competitive at the upper echelons of the world's best league, I'm afraid, and if the current owners aren't up to it--and they're not--they need to do the honourable thing and sell.

Since that doesn't look like happening any time soon, I advocate going as we're going: spending what transfer money we have on a relatively few quality players and using the remaining dribs and drabs to reinforce thin areas of the squad with Greek lads and the odd kid.  What I don't advocate is complaining about paying over the odds in surely what has been one of the most over-heated transfer markets in recent memory nor begrudging Rafa's shift from quantity to quality--particularly since that was the stick used to beat him with so frequently in the past.

[JoeTerp]

How many Greek players do you reckon will be enough Bob ?

[Dundalk]

Martins own Webpage

He is a big softy really

[Number 9]

Martins own Webpage

He is a big softy really

Read the guestbook!

Some w@nker called Dave McCarthy wrote

"You can be my hero Martin
You can take away the pain

I love your ballskills"

Some people just need beat to death!

[Dundalk]

[Number 9]

Fuc'kin tragic!

[RedBen]

On his profile:

Status:
Single, has a girlfriend Barbora

[heimdall]

What a coincidence, Kontrafakt are one of my favourites bands as well. 

[Number 9]

On his profile:

Status:
Single, has a girlfriend Barbora

I would lick Barboras ring!!  

[heimdall]

On his profile:

Status:
Single, has a girlfriend Barbora

I would lick Barboras ring!!  

It's must be his dazzlingly good lucks which attracted her to him. 

[Nando26]

Oh & if you think Skrtel was in the wrong for the collision your an idiot

Maybe so, but for fact it is certain that if you think I said it was, then YOU'RE an idiot.

I was referring to anyone who did it wasnt aimed at you

But i guess you didnt think first before flapping your gums

[Nando26]

Before Rafa arrived the biggest spending was Cisse at £14m, he's already spent more than that on Johnson, Mascherano, Keane, Torres and Aquilani.

Okay but we first of all need to adjust for inflation.  Players cost more across the board than they did in 2004 and so comparing transfer fees is a bit of a mug's game.

Second, we have to apply the 'you get what you pay for' principle to a certain degree.  Yes, Rafa paid more for Torres than Cisse but I don't think anyone would argue with the wisdom of doing so.  Quality costs money...even if it is quality that is still blossoming (as would seem to be the case with Johnson and, hopefully, Aquilani).

I'm not saying Rafa hasn't made mistakes in the transfer market.  Of course he has--all managers do.  What I am saying is that, for a team that finished so close last season and is trying to clear that final hurdle this season, spending  a couple of million here or there on bargain buys and stop-gaps is not generally the recipe for success.  That goes double when we lose a nailed on starter and key performer in a vital position.  Rafa had no choice but to replace Alonso and I think he was right to look to a potentially top class player to do so--especially with Barry swerving us for City.  Sure, we could have spent a tenner on the likes of Kevin Nolan and earmarked the rest of the Alonso money for other areas of the team but would that have been a wise use of funds?  Not for me, no.

So would you prefer that the club goes even further into debt to fund player purchases??

how much have Manure spent THIS transfer season, how about Arsenal and the Chavs??

They dont need to spend as much now because theyve spent more in the past

I thought that was obvious?