I'm gonna get leathered before the game on Weds.
Nerves will be too frayed.
LIVERPOOL vs CHELSEA - CL SEMI-FINAL 2ND LEG, BABY!!!!
by Effes » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:15 pm
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by Leonmc0708 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:16 pm
Stu.Murph wrote:Leonmc0708 wrote:Sorry but anyone condoneing someone wanting United to win the league is a complete and utter fu.ckwhit.
No Way.
Never.
Non.
Thats one of the worst posts I have ever read on this forum (and thats saying something).
Shocked and stunned.
Disguisted.
Thank you!
To show your gratitude please gtet banned this evening, just had a £5 with bluesquare lad.
JUSTICE FOR THE 96
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by ivor_the_injun » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:45 pm
Christ, we're having arguments about which of Man U and Chelsea we'd prefer to win silverware?
That's like asking which of two chavs I'd prefer to bang my missus.
Bottom line is, one of them is going to win at least one trophy this season. LFC started on zero points alongside the pair of them in the league. We had all the chance in the world to stop them, we didn't, so we're going to have at least one set of supporters spoonfeeding our medicine to us. That's just a fact.
Man U are the old enemy. Chelsea, a team I bundled in with the fairly anonymous southern oppositions of the Spurs and the West Hams, have suddenly come from nowhere to become a seriously in-your-face dislikeable club. I didn't think it possible for a team other than Man U to make my blood boil to the extent that they do, but Chelsea have somehow managed it. It's not even the fact that they've dominated the league for a couple of years, but the way that they've been utterly graceless while they've gone about it. A team of f*cking divers that pinch a match in the 93rd minute and then b*tch for 10 minutes in the post-match interviews about how a 50/50 in the box was a stonewall penalty.
Make no mistake, enemy No 1 is and always will be Man U. For me though, Chelsea have absolutely sauntered past Everton to become a clear No 2 now.
To be fair to Man U, they've done their talking on the pitch this season, and I have the utmost respect for some of their attacking play which has been - at times - frustratingly sensational. They'll make worthy Prem champions, but don't think for a second that I'll be applauding them. I won't be able to stomach seeing Gary Neville within 40 yards of the Prem trophy, let alone lifting the f*cker.
Chelsea though are made up of what seems like 5% die-hard supporters and 95% glory-hunting f*ckwits. You've never heard a train carriage stunned into silence like one I found myself in when this nice-but-dim accented city banker tw*t, on his way to Stamford Bridge, asked his mate if he thought Thierry Henry was going to score during the match they were on their way to watch. This was Chelsea v Norwich last season FFS. There he was, in his Chelsea shirt under an expensive full length wool coat and cashmere scarf, and not a f*cking clue about who played for his club.
What's the betting you'll see a lot of the same faces that have been walking the streets on match day in their Chelsea shirts will be mysteriously wearing Man U colours next season if the league goes their way?
That's like asking which of two chavs I'd prefer to bang my missus.
Bottom line is, one of them is going to win at least one trophy this season. LFC started on zero points alongside the pair of them in the league. We had all the chance in the world to stop them, we didn't, so we're going to have at least one set of supporters spoonfeeding our medicine to us. That's just a fact.
Man U are the old enemy. Chelsea, a team I bundled in with the fairly anonymous southern oppositions of the Spurs and the West Hams, have suddenly come from nowhere to become a seriously in-your-face dislikeable club. I didn't think it possible for a team other than Man U to make my blood boil to the extent that they do, but Chelsea have somehow managed it. It's not even the fact that they've dominated the league for a couple of years, but the way that they've been utterly graceless while they've gone about it. A team of f*cking divers that pinch a match in the 93rd minute and then b*tch for 10 minutes in the post-match interviews about how a 50/50 in the box was a stonewall penalty.
Make no mistake, enemy No 1 is and always will be Man U. For me though, Chelsea have absolutely sauntered past Everton to become a clear No 2 now.
To be fair to Man U, they've done their talking on the pitch this season, and I have the utmost respect for some of their attacking play which has been - at times - frustratingly sensational. They'll make worthy Prem champions, but don't think for a second that I'll be applauding them. I won't be able to stomach seeing Gary Neville within 40 yards of the Prem trophy, let alone lifting the f*cker.
Chelsea though are made up of what seems like 5% die-hard supporters and 95% glory-hunting f*ckwits. You've never heard a train carriage stunned into silence like one I found myself in when this nice-but-dim accented city banker tw*t, on his way to Stamford Bridge, asked his mate if he thought Thierry Henry was going to score during the match they were on their way to watch. This was Chelsea v Norwich last season FFS. There he was, in his Chelsea shirt under an expensive full length wool coat and cashmere scarf, and not a f*cking clue about who played for his club.
What's the betting you'll see a lot of the same faces that have been walking the streets on match day in their Chelsea shirts will be mysteriously wearing Man U colours next season if the league goes their way?
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by Effes » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:13 am
Benitez happy to leave past behind
Paul Wilson (Observer)
Sunday April 22, 2007
The Observer
As Jose Mourinho has done little to hide his festering resentment over the events of two years ago, Chelsea would probably have picked Liverpool for their Champions League semi-final opponents. If you bear a grudge, why not have a grudge match as well as a rematch? Rafa Benitez, on the other hand, can afford to smile at the idea. Winners have no need to bear grudges, and the Liverpool manager - surprise, surprise - does not even see the point of discussing what happened in 2005, when his players pulled off their unlikely triumph in Istanbul by virtue of the comeback of the century against Milan and Luis Garcia's phantom goal against Chelsea in the semi-final at Anfield.
'It's history, it's gone,' Benitez said. 'If Chelsea really want to argue about the goal, then we will argue it should have been a penalty and a red card, but it is better to look ahead. The history the two clubs will create in the next two meetings is more important than what happened in the past.'
Benitez would say that, if it is true that history always comes to be written by the winners, but if Chelsea supporters detect a certain smugness they are underestimating the man. Benitez is nothing if not modest and when it was put to him that he had tactically outsmarted Mourinho at this stage two years ago, he had a diplomatic denial ready at hand. 'Managers can prepare plans, but at the end of the day games come down to players,' he explained. 'What happens on the pitch decides things, not what managers want to happen. I remember Eidur Gudjohnsen had a good chance to equalise late in the game at Anfield. If he had scored it would have been very different. Chelsea would have won, Liverpool would not have been in Istanbul and no one would be complimenting me on my tactics.'
The two European Cup winners from the Iberian peninsula have had 13 head-to-heads in the short time they have been in England and, while Mourinho has the most wins, Benitez has enjoyed the more recent success and has arguably won the one game that mattered the most. The most remarkable statistic about the four meetings so far between Chelsea and Liverpool in the Champions League is the one that suggests Wednesday's game at Stamford Bridge will not be a goalfest. In four games, only one goal has been scored and even that goal, most fair-minded observers outside Anfield would concede, would not have been given by many referees.
'I don't think there will be many goals in the tie. Chelsea have a very good defence and concede fewer goals now than we do,' Benitez said. 'But 0-0 away from home is not necessarily a good result; it is better to try and score a goal. We scored goals in Barcelona and our idea is to score at Stamford Bridge and hopefully to win. I think it will be a tight game, though. It tends to be like that when you know you have another game to come.'
Speaking before Peter Kenyon's curious vote of confidence in Mourinho - Chelsea promised only not to sack him, they did not have much to say about his future at the club - Benitez described him as a good manager who would be a loss to the Premiership. The pair are not best mates, as Benitez wryly observed last week. Results can get in the way of friendship, but admiration clearly exists for the job Mourinho has done at Stamford Bridge. 'I think Jose is a very good manager for Chelsea and I have a lot of respect for him,' Benitez said. 'I think he's done his job well, he knows what he's doing and he's positive for the game. I don't know if he will stay or go but nothing would surprise me. I've managed in Spain. I've seen managers sacked who were eight points clear at the top of the league.'
Benitez is uncomfortable with media portrayals of the semi-final as a confrontation between the Premiership's best young managers, however, and is far happier talking about the two sets of players. 'It is not about Jose and me; it is better to talk about Gerrard against Lampard,' he said. 'I have been very impressed with Chelsea this season, the way they have played and the way they have kept the pressure on Manchester United. For me United have been almost perfect this season, they have been fantastic, but Chelsea have been very close and that says a lot. We know we are in for a tough game, but I think we are a better team now than two years ago.'
With three English teams in the last four of the Champions League, claims are once again being advanced that the Premiership is in fact the premier league in Europe and Benitez does not disagree. As someone who has won a European Cup and was coaching in Spain when that country provided three semi-finalists four years ago, Liverpool's manager is a reasonably well qualified judge. 'I'm not overlooking Milan, because they are a team with a lot of quality and experience and they are still in with a good chance in the Champions League,' Benitez said. 'But if you are comparing league with league, I think the English league might be the strongest around right now. Maybe in only one year things will change, but I know the Spanish league very well and I know the English league and I think at this moment England is a little better. Obviously there are some very good teams in Spain, but generally the competition is stronger in this country.'
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Dont like the way he calls Garcia's goal a "phantom" goal.
Paul Wilson (Observer)
Sunday April 22, 2007
The Observer
As Jose Mourinho has done little to hide his festering resentment over the events of two years ago, Chelsea would probably have picked Liverpool for their Champions League semi-final opponents. If you bear a grudge, why not have a grudge match as well as a rematch? Rafa Benitez, on the other hand, can afford to smile at the idea. Winners have no need to bear grudges, and the Liverpool manager - surprise, surprise - does not even see the point of discussing what happened in 2005, when his players pulled off their unlikely triumph in Istanbul by virtue of the comeback of the century against Milan and Luis Garcia's phantom goal against Chelsea in the semi-final at Anfield.
'It's history, it's gone,' Benitez said. 'If Chelsea really want to argue about the goal, then we will argue it should have been a penalty and a red card, but it is better to look ahead. The history the two clubs will create in the next two meetings is more important than what happened in the past.'
Benitez would say that, if it is true that history always comes to be written by the winners, but if Chelsea supporters detect a certain smugness they are underestimating the man. Benitez is nothing if not modest and when it was put to him that he had tactically outsmarted Mourinho at this stage two years ago, he had a diplomatic denial ready at hand. 'Managers can prepare plans, but at the end of the day games come down to players,' he explained. 'What happens on the pitch decides things, not what managers want to happen. I remember Eidur Gudjohnsen had a good chance to equalise late in the game at Anfield. If he had scored it would have been very different. Chelsea would have won, Liverpool would not have been in Istanbul and no one would be complimenting me on my tactics.'
The two European Cup winners from the Iberian peninsula have had 13 head-to-heads in the short time they have been in England and, while Mourinho has the most wins, Benitez has enjoyed the more recent success and has arguably won the one game that mattered the most. The most remarkable statistic about the four meetings so far between Chelsea and Liverpool in the Champions League is the one that suggests Wednesday's game at Stamford Bridge will not be a goalfest. In four games, only one goal has been scored and even that goal, most fair-minded observers outside Anfield would concede, would not have been given by many referees.
'I don't think there will be many goals in the tie. Chelsea have a very good defence and concede fewer goals now than we do,' Benitez said. 'But 0-0 away from home is not necessarily a good result; it is better to try and score a goal. We scored goals in Barcelona and our idea is to score at Stamford Bridge and hopefully to win. I think it will be a tight game, though. It tends to be like that when you know you have another game to come.'
Speaking before Peter Kenyon's curious vote of confidence in Mourinho - Chelsea promised only not to sack him, they did not have much to say about his future at the club - Benitez described him as a good manager who would be a loss to the Premiership. The pair are not best mates, as Benitez wryly observed last week. Results can get in the way of friendship, but admiration clearly exists for the job Mourinho has done at Stamford Bridge. 'I think Jose is a very good manager for Chelsea and I have a lot of respect for him,' Benitez said. 'I think he's done his job well, he knows what he's doing and he's positive for the game. I don't know if he will stay or go but nothing would surprise me. I've managed in Spain. I've seen managers sacked who were eight points clear at the top of the league.'
Benitez is uncomfortable with media portrayals of the semi-final as a confrontation between the Premiership's best young managers, however, and is far happier talking about the two sets of players. 'It is not about Jose and me; it is better to talk about Gerrard against Lampard,' he said. 'I have been very impressed with Chelsea this season, the way they have played and the way they have kept the pressure on Manchester United. For me United have been almost perfect this season, they have been fantastic, but Chelsea have been very close and that says a lot. We know we are in for a tough game, but I think we are a better team now than two years ago.'
With three English teams in the last four of the Champions League, claims are once again being advanced that the Premiership is in fact the premier league in Europe and Benitez does not disagree. As someone who has won a European Cup and was coaching in Spain when that country provided three semi-finalists four years ago, Liverpool's manager is a reasonably well qualified judge. 'I'm not overlooking Milan, because they are a team with a lot of quality and experience and they are still in with a good chance in the Champions League,' Benitez said. 'But if you are comparing league with league, I think the English league might be the strongest around right now. Maybe in only one year things will change, but I know the Spanish league very well and I know the English league and I think at this moment England is a little better. Obviously there are some very good teams in Spain, but generally the competition is stronger in this country.'
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Dont like the way he calls Garcia's goal a "phantom" goal.
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by Effes » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:16 am
In another article (Observer) looking at Man U v Milan the reporter concludes:
England must be proud to have three clubs in the last four of this competition. Who are the strongest? If you look at Chelsea's squad, then maybe they have the slight advantage. But if I had to ask one of them to save my life I would go with the European pedigree of Liverpool, then Manchester United.
England must be proud to have three clubs in the last four of this competition. Who are the strongest? If you look at Chelsea's squad, then maybe they have the slight advantage. But if I had to ask one of them to save my life I would go with the European pedigree of Liverpool, then Manchester United.
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by Lando_Griffin » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:38 am
Come on LFC! Let's f*ck these chav b*stards up, then batter the ultra scum in the final! Let's show the entire World that no-one messes with the 'pool, no-way, never, no how!
There is one team which deserves to win this years competition. They wear red, they reside at Anfield, and they've won it five f*cking times!!!
Eat the c*nts for breakfast lads - sort them out, f*ck 'em up, and put this great club of ours back on top.
WE ARE THE WORTHY TEAM. WE NEED TO SHOW IT. COME ON LFC!!!!!!!!!!!
There is one team which deserves to win this years competition. They wear red, they reside at Anfield, and they've won it five f*cking times!!!
Eat the c*nts for breakfast lads - sort them out, f*ck 'em up, and put this great club of ours back on top.
WE ARE THE WORTHY TEAM. WE NEED TO SHOW IT. COME ON LFC!!!!!!!!!!!
Rafa Benitez - An unfinished Legend.
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by Effes » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:28 am
Does anyone know if Mascherano is 1 booking away from a ban?
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by Effes » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:38 am
Nice quote from Kluivert:
In the trying circumstances Patrick Kluivert's assessment of Liverpool was chilling. "I wasn't surprised by Liverpool's quality in the first leg," said the former Dutch international striker. "Individually they are good but they also seem to be better than the sum of their parts.
"They have some good players, and in Steven Gerrard a really excellent player, but more than that they were really functioning as a team. If a team clicks like that it feels like there are 12 men on the pitch. To me they look like the Champions League winners this year. They definitely have the quality to go all the way."
In the trying circumstances Patrick Kluivert's assessment of Liverpool was chilling. "I wasn't surprised by Liverpool's quality in the first leg," said the former Dutch international striker. "Individually they are good but they also seem to be better than the sum of their parts.
"They have some good players, and in Steven Gerrard a really excellent player, but more than that they were really functioning as a team. If a team clicks like that it feels like there are 12 men on the pitch. To me they look like the Champions League winners this year. They definitely have the quality to go all the way."
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by Lucky » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:38 am
Can't wait for the game now. I know they're gonna be tough matches, but I really hope that we can score and get 3 points at Stamford Bridge in the first leg. Heard that there is a curse about CL matches - the team who loses in the first home leg will have no chance to come back in the second away leg and thus will be eliminated from the next stage. 
"We've got a great team spirit - It doesn't matter how many goals we go down, we'll keep fighting till the end." - Steven Gerrard
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by Effes » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:41 am
Lucky wrote:but I really hope that we can score and get 3 points at Stamford Bridge in the first leg.
fuksake
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by Ciggy » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:15 am
kewp80 wrote:O yeah! It's on tv! I'll be chearin' on LFC from my couch! Wish I was there though! Here we go reds! Let's kick some Chelski @ss!
YNWA!
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