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Postby stmichael » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:24 pm

Del Piero wrote:Hi all. I'm a Juventus fan from Italy, and i'm here just to apologize for the bad and unacceptable behavior of Juventus supporters at Anfield. We're not all like them, and we're ready to welcome you here in Italy!
Amicizia!

you don't need to apologise my friend, it's just a minority of idiots who caused were causing trouble.

anyway, the italian press have issued an apology today.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArt....allNews
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:53 pm

well...hamman won't be fit in time for the 2nd leg but Alonso will!  he's playing in the reserves tonight with Kewell, so lets hope they go through that ok and make an appearence against Man City
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Postby Scottbot » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:37 pm

What a night! fantastic performance. I'm so jealous of the fans who got be a part of that atmosphere. Hearing 'fields of Anfield Road' belted out over an over again from all four corners of the ground sent shivers down my spine. I thought the team played like lions. Every one of them. Our tactics were spot on and Juve looked absolutely shell shocked during those first 30 minutes.

For those of you you can't help feeling a little bit dissapointed that we couldn't hold on to or improve on the 2-0 half-time scoreline remember that this was an LFC who played with the reckless abandon of a team that had nothing to lose during that 1st half and perhaps the half-time break gave them time to realise they suddenly everything to lose during the 2nd. This showed in our play as the foot was lifted off the accelerater and we began to sit back and play deeper. Juve showed their quality in the last 45mins and their goal ensures we remain the underdogs for the 2nd leg which, on the evidence of this season seems to suit us better.

Win or lose in the second leg, i saw enough in that first half to convince (even more) me that this is one of many great European wins we have to look forward to under Benitez's guidance.

I even fancy the captain will sign a new deal in the summer. Anyone else notice a change him these last few weeks? found his form again, working harder, trusting his teamates to do their jobs around him and his dealings witht the press have been encouraging (and more captainlike) of late.

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Postby NYCJuveFan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:51 pm

Honestly I'm impressed by LFC and quite afraid for the 2nd leg.
Yes, sure, 1-2 away is not an extremely bad result and a 1-0 home win will be enough.
But we don't have to assume that LFC will come to Turin to defend their home win. That might have been the case if they won 2-0, but they're not stupid and they know they can't do that (you could defend extremely well for 89 minutes and then allow a goal and be kicked out).
1-2 is definitely better than the 0-1 we got in Madrid. Not for the strength of the two teams (ok, Real Madrid sure has better players, but LFC sure is the better team), but for the fact that if we allow an away goal, it's not over.
By the way, we must throw a perfect game on Wednesday in order to go through and be extremely careful. We'll have to attack, but not like there's no tomorrow. I wouldn't want to conceed an away goal in the first half. And this LFC can really hurt you with their fast-pace game. And most of all, we will have to start playing since the 1st minute and not the 31st....

Honour to LFC btw. You really impressed me.
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Postby MilitiaRusher » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:02 pm

A section of your fans were disgraceful really.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:06 pm

NYCJuveFan wrote:Honestly I'm impressed by LFC and quite afraid for the 2nd leg.
Yes, sure, 1-2 away is not an extremely bad result and a 1-0 home win will be enough.
But we don't have to assume that LFC will come to Turin to defend their home win. That might have been the case if they won 2-0, but they're not stupid and they know they can't do that (you could defend extremely well for 89 minutes and then allow a goal and be kicked out).
1-2 is definitely better than the 0-1 we got in Madrid. Not for the strength of the two teams (ok, Real Madrid sure has better players, but LFC sure is the better team), but for the fact that if we allow an away goal, it's not over.
By the way, we must throw a perfect game on Wednesday in order to go through and be extremely careful. We'll have to attack, but not like there's no tomorrow. I wouldn't want to conceed an away goal in the first half. And this LFC can really hurt you with their fast-pace game. And most of all, we will have to start playing since the 1st minute and not the 31st....

Honour to LFC btw. You really impressed me.

nice post.
i just hope we play teh next leg like the first half of this one, then we really gonna have a game going
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Postby NYCJuveFan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:09 pm

MilitiaRusher wrote:A section of your fans were disgraceful really.

I know. I apologize for that, but I kinda expected it.
And I don't expect the best for the 2nd leg, IMO.
I really wish LFC fans won't go there.
I'm reading an ultras forum (in Italian) and they're already talking about "No friendship and no hand shakes in Turin" and if some Juve fans show up in the Curva Scirea (the ultras sector) wearing one of those friendship scarves, they will be rudely kicked out.
Doesn't sound good mate.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:12 pm

IMO we have to take what the juve fans did on the chin it was there fans who cannot forgive and forget , i for one am not prepared to forgive and forget what happened at hillsborough so why should they, we can't have double standards and we must accept how they feel,LFC have done all they can to show how sorry we are for what happened they have the right to not accept that peacfully,it will only be wrong if it turns violent.YNWA
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Postby MilitiaRusher » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:15 pm

are the Italian authorities in Turin doing anything to prevent this kind of happenings? hopefully the away stands would be situated further to the Juve trouble maker fans. If very few LFC would opt to travel to Turin, then Liverpool could basically be playing in a extremely hostile territory with no fans behind their back at all.
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Postby NYCJuveFan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:16 pm

dawson99 wrote:
NYCJuveFan wrote:Honestly I'm impressed by LFC and quite afraid for the 2nd leg.
Yes, sure, 1-2 away is not an extremely bad result and a 1-0 home win will be enough.
But we don't have to assume that LFC will come to Turin to defend their home win. That might have been the case if they won 2-0, but they're not stupid and they know they can't do that (you could defend extremely well for 89 minutes and then allow a goal and be kicked out).
1-2 is definitely better than the 0-1 we got in Madrid. Not for the strength of the two teams (ok, Real Madrid sure has better players, but LFC sure is the better team), but for the fact that if we allow an away goal, it's not over.
By the way, we must throw a perfect game on Wednesday in order to go through and be extremely careful. We'll have to attack, but not like there's no tomorrow. I wouldn't want to conceed an away goal in the first half. And this LFC can really hurt you with their fast-pace game. And most of all, we will have to start playing since the 1st minute and not the 31st....

Honour to LFC btw. You really impressed me.

nice post.
i just hope we play teh next leg like the first half of this one, then we really gonna have a game going

And what's bad (for us, good for you  :D ) is that you won't act like Real Madrid players releasing arrogant speeches saying that you're better and you will go through.
That really fired Juve up (IMO, Real Madrid was scared as hell to come playing in Turin. As matter of facts, they have been kicked out the last three home&away meetings). LFC will remain with a low-profile.
That's what we have to do. Acknowledge LFC great match (yeah, just the first 30 minutes, but that was enough), be convinced that we can win in Turin, but don't assume that.
It's gonna be a great 2nd leg though.
And if you go through, you'll have my support against Chelsea (supposedly).
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Postby NYCJuveFan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:22 pm

MilitiaRusher wrote:are the Italian authorities in Turin doing anything to prevent this kind of happenings? hopefully the away stands would be situated further to the Juve trouble maker fans. If very few LFC would opt to travel to Turin, then Liverpool could basically be playing in a extremely hostile territory with no fans behind their back at all.

Living in Brooklyn, I don't know.
I think there's gonna be MASSIVE police presence though.
It'd be stupid otherwise.
Delle Alpi, being huge, is quite a good stadium to keep opposite fans separated. I'm sure they'll leave some 15/20 meters empty both sides (with lots of cops in between) in order to separate them.
But honestly, if I were a LFC fan, I wouldn't go to Turin. Not even if got paid.


PS: Never thought that Brooklyn was a huge Juve fans community.  :cool:
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Postby MilitiaRusher » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:26 pm

NYCJuveFan wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:are the Italian authorities in Turin doing anything to prevent this kind of happenings? hopefully the away stands would be situated further to the Juve trouble maker fans. If very few LFC would opt to travel to Turin, then Liverpool could basically be playing in a extremely hostile territory with no fans behind their back at all.

Living in Brooklyn, I don't know.
I think there's gonna be MASSIVE police presence though.
It'd be stupid otherwise.
Delle Alpi, being huge, is quite a good stadium to keep opposite fans separated. I'm sure they'll leave some 15/20 meters empty both sides (with lots of cops in between) in order to separate them.
But honestly, if I were a LFC fan, I wouldn't go to Turin. Not even if got paid.


PS: Never thought that Brooklyn was a huge Juve fans community.  :cool:

I find your discouragement of LFC fans to travel to Turin is for the sake of a detioriorating performance from the Reds.  Maybe?
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Postby NYCJuveFan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:29 pm

MilitiaRusher wrote:I find your discouragement of LFC fans to travel to Turin is for the sake of a detioriorating performance from the Reds.  Maybe?

No mate.

We would have 95% of the stadium cheering for us anyways.
That's not the problem.
I'm not concerned about the match. I'm concerned about what could happen.

But I have to say that Juve fans could be heard in Anfield yesterday (that's what I got from the TV though).
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Postby anfieldadorer » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:32 pm

Juventus fans should be taking the second leg wisely or it would be a dangerous precedent regarding the relationship between juventus and liverpool fans -if not english and italy, in the future. Should something unexpected happens in Turin triggered by juventini's harassement to our fans, it would cause a new revengeful feeling among Liverpool fans since in particular we feel that we have just done our best being good hosts.
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Postby MilitiaRusher » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:42 pm

for those who live or are familiar with Turin, are these safety measures enough to prevent trouble?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news....912.htm
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