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Postby D___C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:45 pm

7_Kewell wrote:english players are bodstandard?  Where's Gerrard from you gobsh!te?

Liverpool is an ENGLISH CLUB and needs ENGLISH players.


"generally"

Cherry picking one doesnt negate the fact English players are generally bogstandard in comparison to the top nationalities. How many English players have been successful abroad? Barring having home advantage in '66 (dodgy refereeing with the Argie sent off for nothing, and a non goal given in the final).. what have England done in any major international tournament over 60 years? Getting dismantled every 2 years is what they have been doing.

The Premiership stepped up a level when the foreigners came in.. its them who make up the best players in the world. English players generally are not in the same stratosphere to the top nationalities.
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Postby kartiek » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:45 pm

over a 100 million pounds spent and we sit 2 points off of 10th place.

Any redeeming features?

Exciting football?
Budding Talent?
LFC Youth promotion?
Aggressive Substitutions?
Careful, modest approach to the transfer market?

No, we're basically like the rash and money wasting Chelsea of 6 years ago, but without any end product or quality to boot. This is utterly depressing
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Postby metalhead » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:45 pm

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Boxscarf wrote:I doubt we'd be in the situation we are now had we decided to stick with Benitez instead of sacking him after one bad season where the infighting at the club finally seeped through and affected our results.

I'm going to sound like a broken record on here, but sacking Benitez is probably the most stupid of decisions I have ever witnessed from this football club. Give Rafa Benitez £100m and he'd get you success, after all he got us cup successes on a £12m annual transfer budget each season.

However he has gone now and everyone at the club needs to back the manager.

Nail on the head. Rafa showed that when given money to spend he usually got it right. Look at us back then, top of Europe! Rafa and FSG would have made a great team imo.


Really? so spending 20m on Keane, 20m on Aquilani and 7m on Dossenna is right? b*llox mate, Rafa also ***** up in the transfer market.
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Postby only me » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:47 pm

metalhead wrote:
tubby wrote:
Boxscarf wrote:I doubt we'd be in the situation we are now had we decided to stick with Benitez instead of sacking him after one bad season where the infighting at the club finally seeped through and affected our results.

I'm going to sound like a broken record on here, but sacking Benitez is probably the most stupid of decisions I have ever witnessed from this football club. Give Rafa Benitez £100m and he'd get you success, after all he got us cup successes on a £12m annual transfer budget each season.

However he has gone now and everyone at the club needs to back the manager.

Nail on the head. Rafa showed that when given money to spend he usually got it right. Look at us back then, top of Europe! Rafa and FSG would have made a great team imo.


Really? so spending 20m on Keane, 20m on Aquilani and 7m on Dossenna is right? b*llox mate, Rafa also ***** up in the transfer market.


Spot On! Rafa spending was disgracefull ,espcially the let's spend all our money on an injured player and hope it works out criminal gamble...
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Postby kartiek » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:49 pm

Yes, but he got rid of Keane quick for 12m in stead of shambling around. Aquilani, we'll never know what his problem is, good player in Italy, don't know why he just doesn't want to play here.

And Dossenna for 7m, seriously? Are you seriously comparing these flops to the 20 mil + 20 mil + 35 mil on downing, carroll, and henderson?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:49 pm

D___C wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:english players are bodstandard?  Where's Gerrard from you gobsh!te?

Liverpool is an ENGLISH CLUB and needs ENGLISH players.


"generally"

Cherry picking one doesnt negate the fact English players are generally bogstandard in comparison to the top nationalities. How many English players have been successful abroad? Barring having home advantage in '66 (dodgy refereeing with the Argie sent off for nothing, and a non goal given in the final).. what have England done in any major international tournament over 60 years? Getting dismantled every 2 years is what they have been doing.

The Premiership stepped up a level when the foreigners came in.. its them who make up the best players in the world. English players generally are not in the same stratosphere to the top nationalities.


lucky in 66  :laugh:

if you dislike Enlgish football why not f**k off and support a team from your own country?  England regularly qualify for the world cup and reach the knock out stages...which is more than most do.  As for succesful players abroad, you not heard of McManaman? Beckham? 

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Postby D___C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:50 pm

In terms of signings Rafa lost it in his last 2 years just as Houllier did.

Unfortunately Kenny didnt get his first signings right, so lets hope its a reverse of Rafa and Houllier and he gets the next batch right.
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Postby D___C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:57 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
D___C wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:english players are bodstandard?  Where's Gerrard from you gobsh!te?

Liverpool is an ENGLISH CLUB and needs ENGLISH players.


"generally"

Cherry picking one doesnt negate the fact English players are generally bogstandard in comparison to the top nationalities. How many English players have been successful abroad? Barring having home advantage in '66 (dodgy refereeing with the Argie sent off for nothing, and a non goal given in the final).. what have England done in any major international tournament over 60 years? Getting dismantled every 2 years is what they have been doing.

The Premiership stepped up a level when the foreigners came in.. its them who make up the best players in the world. English players generally are not in the same stratosphere to the top nationalities.


lucky in 66  :laugh:

if you dislike Enlgish football why not f**k off and support a team from your own country?  England regularly qualify for the world cup and reach the knock out stages...which is more than most do.  As for succesful players abroad, you not heard of McManaman? Beckham? 

where are YOU from?


I assume you are being sarky over 66.

McManaman warmed the Madrid bench on a regular basis. He was never a first team regular. Beckham plc., dreadful at every single major interantional tournament, the man whose fame least matches their talent, didnt belong on the same field as Zidane, Figo, Roberto Carlos and co.. and Capello thought the same as he benched him.
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Postby metalhead » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:59 pm

England are shyte 7_Kewell :rasp  :D
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:02 pm

metalhead wrote:England are shyte 7_Kewell :rasp  :D


don't you start  :D

i think some 'fans' forget that Liverpool is an ENGLISH team...and the new rules mean it MUST field HOME players.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:03 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
metalhead wrote:England are shyte 7_Kewell :rasp  :D


don't you start  :D

i think some 'fans' forget that Liverpool is an ENGLISH team...and the new rules mean it MUST field HOME players.


racist  :rasp
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Postby stmichael » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:11 pm

When the teamsheet came out it looked like a bogstandard 4-3-3 but as the game progressed I had no idea what formation we were playing. We were all over the place. Henderson was infield for a spell, then out wider but still largely ineffective. Adam was just woeful.

The thing is, last season we played some great fluid pass and move stuff with Suarez, Meireles, Maxi and Kuyt in the side. The players we have signed in the summer don't fit this style of play at all. Maxi's virtual omission perplexes me greatly. We can't score goals and he's probably the best finisher at the club.
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Postby D___C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:12 pm

Indeed we must have home players... Gerrard, Johnson, plus Sterling will feature for us. So thats three. Downing also will play a part im sure.

Its upfront and central midfield were we need to buy. Just take one look at the England squad right now, theres feck all in either department. Scott Parker is England captain ladies and gentlemen. The Dutch gave them a good hiding at Wembley, chasing shadows "Pearce's boy" were, then the Oranges took off SneiJder, Van Persie and co and then Engurlund almost stole a draw, until the Dutch reasserted their superority as Robben hammered home the winner.


Look acroos the English channel in the summer Kenny. No more tripe please.
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:14 pm

Rafa hit rate in buying good players was 1 in 10.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:17 pm

lakes10 wrote:Rafa hit rate in buying good players was 1 in 10.


based on what? His hit rate for good first teamers was pretty good I would say. I know he bought a sh!tload of bogstandard reserve sh!t but in terms of actual first teamers he was good I would say
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