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[Scottbot]

From the looks of it, he doesn't strike me as a playmaker who can unlock defences or play the odd killer pass, he looks like a box to box midfielder, can both defend and attack. His vision is no Alonso, but his first touch is fantastic and he reminds me of Stevie with his movement and running. He has excellent work rate and he reads the game well, big potential

Killer pass dude? I saw three killer passes in that vid clip! the nutmeg pass with the outside of his boot that leads to goal, a raking pass with his left foot towards the end of the clip and another beauty after he charges a ball down and plays reverse ball to the onrushing winger.

Can't wait to see this kid in pre-season.

[Tim LFC]

Hopefully we see this lad play in EL, CC and some PL matches from the bench! We've got a steal in my opinion in Shelvey and Wilson only 4m right now for both whilst Man U spent 10m alone on smalling!

[aCe']

Not to spoil everyones fun or anything but let's not get too carried away here... He's an excellent prospect but still far from the finished article and i dont expect to see him making starts anytime soon...

I've seen him play a couple of times at the beginning of the year and asked some Charlton fan about him.. To me he seems pretty slow to be honest (takes some time to get going, acceleration not pace i mean).. Suspect defensively and needs to get some more experience before making any sort of impact...

He couldnt make the Charlton starting lineup towards the end of the season and the guy I spoke to seemed to insist that he cant be played as part of a midfield two... He plays behind the striker or as a midfield playmaker (1 of 3 midfielders)... My guess is that Gerrard, Aquilani, Cole and even Lucas might be ahead of him for that particular position...

Anyways, no doubt the guy has a bright future ahead of him if we nurture his talent properly.. hopefully we see him in the friendlies, the Euro cup and some of the domestic cups... For the sort of money we paid for him i think hes a very good deal and if he manages to pickup a thing or two from Gerrard in the training ground then he might have something special here...   Oh and from what the guy said, he rejected Chelsea, Arsenal, and Tottenham amongst other clubs to join us... good stuff

Heres an interesting piece on him:

[url=http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-spy/Liverpool-transfer-target-Jonjo-Shelvey-10-things-you-need-to-know-plus-video-of-him-in-ac
tion-article404973.html]10 things to know about Shelvey[/url]

[bigmick]

Well I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say that based on that video, I'm a little disappointed. What does he actually show to people which gets them all excited, and I ask the question genuinely?

He closes the ball down fairly well, and his first touch is pretty good. Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Honestly I'm at a complete loss to work out what the fuss is all about in that particular clip. I say this in the full knowledge that they loved him at Charlton, thought he was the bees knees. If he is a top prospect, this video doesn't show it IMHO. Bare in mind they're playing against Brentford here. How would you expect a Pacheco to look, a Lucas even ?


Disclaimer: I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad.

[The Good Yank]

Can't you ever be positive Mick?  You Wristslasher 

From that clip I can see a high work rate and a pretty wide variety of passes.  None that are really the type to stand out, but the overall is decent enough.  Alot of things that perhaps over time will develop into some useful things on the pitch for LFC.

There may be a player under there and hopefully he is.

[Owzat]

I'm with mick on this one in the sense people are pre-judging a signing based on not a lot of evidence to be optimistic over. He played LEAGUE ONE football ffs, who knows if he can cut it in the top division. Let's see if he even gets playing time in the next 2-3 seasons, not pencil him in as the next *insert name here*

[Scottbot]

Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Has had alapecia since he was a kid apparently.

[NANNY RED]

Well i have seen the kid play, and not on a vidio clip either , seen him a few times with me living in Charlton like and imo the kid can play, ive already said he has still got alot to learn but he is now in the right place and with the right players and coaching staff to learn from, He was very very highly thought of at Charlton and they knew they would lose him to a big club even when he was sixteen,My son used to see him on a daily basis and said he is a good hard trainer who never shirks , and will only get better , thatll do for me

Charlton idea when they sold him to us wasto actualy ask us could they keep him there on loan, but were told no

[aCe']

Well I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say that based on that video, I'm a little disappointed. What does he actually show to people which gets them all excited, and I ask the question genuinely?

He closes the ball down fairly well, and his first touch is pretty good. Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Honestly I'm at a complete loss to work out what the fuss is all about in that particular clip. I say this in the full knowledge that they loved him at Charlton, thought he was the bees knees. If he is a top prospect, this video doesn't show it IMHO. Bare in mind they're playing against Brentford here. How would you expect a Pacheco to look, a Lucas even ?


Disclaimer: I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad.

To be fair Mick, that particular clip doesnt say much about the guy...
The thing i like the most about him is that hes always asking for the ball, nothing like Lucas when it comes to that...
Hes not afraid of using his passing range and perhaps if given the time could contribute to our build up play higher up the pitch better than any of our reserve midfielder can...

Like i said though, the main reservations i have about him are his lack of pace and his defensive frailties... They somewhat limit where you can have him on the pitch and im afraid his other attributes arent good enough to compensate such shortcomings.. Given time he might improve his decision making and overall positioning which might make him a useful squad player but for now i dont see him making much of an impact to be honest...

[NANNY RED]

Ace have you seen the lad play a full ninty minutes or in the flesh , I have and with the right guidance and training along side the best players this kid is gonna be immence in a couple of years , im made up he is here and not at one of our rivals thats how confident i am of him, yes still learning and still needs no how but , we stole him from Charlton stole him,

[metalhead]

From the looks of it, he doesn't strike me as a playmaker who can unlock defences or play the odd killer pass, he looks like a box to box midfielder, can both defend and attack. His vision is no Alonso, but his first touch is fantastic and he reminds me of Stevie with his movement and running. He has excellent work rate and he reads the game well, big potential

Killer pass dude? I saw three killer passes in that vid clip! the nutmeg pass with the outside of his boot that leads to goal, a raking pass with his left foot towards the end of the clip and another beauty after he charges a ball down and plays reverse ball to the onrushing winger.

Can't wait to see this kid in pre-season.

Now the nutmeg one was a bit lucky it took a deflection dude

[TarnRed]

Well I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say that based on that video, I'm a little disappointed. What does he actually show to people which gets them all excited, and I ask the question genuinely?

He closes the ball down fairly well, and his first touch is pretty good. Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Honestly I'm at a complete loss to work out what the fuss is all about in that particular clip. I say this in the full knowledge that they loved him at Charlton, thought he was the bees knees. If he is a top prospect, this video doesn't show it IMHO. Bare in mind they're playing against Brentford here. How would you expect a Pacheco to look, a Lucas even ?


Disclaimer: I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad.

So you're judging him on one clip?.

Do you think that the scouting department at Liverpool have signed Jonjo on the cusp of that footage ffs. I've heard it all now.

Better tell the scouting departments at Fulham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle that the reports they have gave back to their management teams was all wrong, the player in fact isn't any good and they've viewed the wrong footage and the wrong games.

[aCe']

Ace have you seen the lad play a full ninty minutes or in the flesh , I have and with the right guidance and training along side the best players this kid is gonna be immence in a couple of years , im made up he is here and not at one of our rivals thats how confident i am of him, yes still learning and still needs no how but , we stole him from Charlton stole him,

Yea Nan i've seen the guy start games more than once... Im not saying he's a bad player, he's got potential and at 18years of age it's easy to see why we picked him up... What im saying is that for more than one reason the guys isnt ready to make an impact at Liverpool quite yet... He couldnt make the starting 11 at Charlton in League1 for a reason... He's got the touch and brain of a footballer.. He needs to work on the other departments and like you say, if we train him right then we've got something in our hands here... Hopefully he gets his head down and works hard and when his chance comes he takes it...

[bigmick]

Well I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say that based on that video, I'm a little disappointed. What does he actually show to people which gets them all excited, and I ask the question genuinely?

He closes the ball down fairly well, and his first touch is pretty good. Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Honestly I'm at a complete loss to work out what the fuss is all about in that particular clip. I say this in the full knowledge that they loved him at Charlton, thought he was the bees knees. If he is a top prospect, this video doesn't show it IMHO. Bare in mind they're playing against Brentford here. How would you expect a Pacheco to look, a Lucas even ?


Disclaimer: I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad.

So you're judging him on one clip?.

Do you think that the scouting department at Liverpool have signed Jonjo on the cusp of that footage ffs. I've heard it all now.

Better tell the scouting departments at Fulham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle that the reports they have gave back to their management teams was all wrong, the player in fact isn't any good and they've viewed the wrong footage and the wrong games.

Fecking hell. Read what I said on the end, "I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad."

That means, I aren't saying he isn't any good or he's a World beater, I am saying that I PERSONALLY CAN'T JUDGE HIM BASED ON THIS CLIP. Then you've accused me of judging him on this clip . I've heard it all now never mind you FFS .

Unfortunately because of this schoolboy error on your part, this part of your post........ "Better tell the scouting departments at Fulham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle that the reports they have gave back to their management teams was all wrong, the player in fact isn't any good and they've viewed the wrong footage and the wrong games."  ends up a bit pointless really.

[TarnRed]

Well I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit and say that based on that video, I'm a little disappointed. What does he actually show to people which gets them all excited, and I ask the question genuinely?

He closes the ball down fairly well, and his first touch is pretty good. Aside form that, there are no real illustrations of vision, he should have hit the target with the cross that was pulled back to him, and he's had his head shaved.

Honestly I'm at a complete loss to work out what the fuss is all about in that particular clip. I say this in the full knowledge that they loved him at Charlton, thought he was the bees knees. If he is a top prospect, this video doesn't show it IMHO. Bare in mind they're playing against Brentford here. How would you expect a Pacheco to look, a Lucas even ?


Disclaimer: I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad.

So you're judging him on one clip?.

Do you think that the scouting department at Liverpool have signed Jonjo on the cusp of that footage ffs. I've heard it all now.

Better tell the scouting departments at Fulham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle that the reports they have gave back to their management teams was all wrong, the player in fact isn't any good and they've viewed the wrong footage and the wrong games.

Fecking hell. Read what I said on the end, "I'm not saying Shelvey is sh!t, I'm just saying that this clip doesn't convince me of anything, good or bad."

That means, I aren't saying he isn't any good or he's a World beater, I am saying that I PERSONALLY CAN'T JUDGE HIM BASED ON THIS CLIP. Then you've accused me of judging him on this clip . I've heard it all now never mind you FFS .

Unfortunately because of this schoolboy error on your part, this part of your post........ "Better tell the scouting departments at Fulham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle that the reports they have gave back to their management teams was all wrong, the player in fact isn't any good and they've viewed the wrong footage and the wrong games."  ends up a bit pointless really.

My mistake. Only skimmed over the post. Apologies.