bigmick wrote:If they get John Terry John I think they'll break into the top four comfortably. They may even do it anyway at the expense of Arsenal, and with all of last years top three except us looking weaker, they could actually do something. I tell you this, if Mourinho was there I think they'd have a shot at the title THIS SEASON COMING (I know that's a bit out there but I honestly think everyone is going to have to take them seriously now) but with Hughes probably breaking into the top four is the limit of their ambitions next season.
As for us, yes we definately need a striker, possibly even two. It all depends on money and what happens with Alonso, but if we need someone cheap I'd go for Tuncay. If it's someone more expensive feck knows.
john craig wrote:bigmick wrote:If they get John Terry John I think they'll break into the top four comfortably. They may even do it anyway at the expense of Arsenal, and with all of last years top three except us looking weaker, they could actually do something. I tell you this, if Mourinho was there I think they'd have a shot at the title THIS SEASON COMING (I know that's a bit out there but I honestly think everyone is going to have to take them seriously now) but with Hughes probably breaking into the top four is the limit of their ambitions next season.
As for us, yes we definately need a striker, possibly even two. It all depends on money and what happens with Alonso, but if we need someone cheap I'd go for Tuncay. If it's someone more expensive feck knows.
It's all hype Mick.
They've got quality in depth up front which is all very well, but their squad is horrendously top heavy and their weakest positions (wide midfield and at the back) haven't been improved upon. . . yet.
Furthermore I think they've got quite a few disruptive influences in that dressing room now, so it will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
Chances of them all gelling straight away are slim and my guess is by the time they get it all together it'll be too little too late for them to mount a serious challenge for the league or possibly even the top four. At the moment they're a group of individuals, not a team, John Terry or no John Terry.
bigmick wrote:john craig wrote:bigmick wrote:If they get John Terry John I think they'll break into the top four comfortably. They may even do it anyway at the expense of Arsenal, and with all of last years top three except us looking weaker, they could actually do something. I tell you this, if Mourinho was there I think they'd have a shot at the title THIS SEASON COMING (I know that's a bit out there but I honestly think everyone is going to have to take them seriously now) but with Hughes probably breaking into the top four is the limit of their ambitions next season.
As for us, yes we definately need a striker, possibly even two. It all depends on money and what happens with Alonso, but if we need someone cheap I'd go for Tuncay. If it's someone more expensive feck knows.
It's all hype Mick.
They've got quality in depth up front which is all very well, but their squad is horrendously top heavy and their weakest positions (wide midfield and at the back) haven't been improved upon. . . yet.
Furthermore I think they've got quite a few disruptive influences in that dressing room now, so it will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
Chances of them all gelling straight away are slim and my guess is by the time they get it all together it'll be too little too late for them to mount a serious challenge for the league or possibly even the top four. At the moment they're a group of individuals, not a team, John Terry or no John Terry.
Definately agree on the bunch of individuals thing mate, and the question is whether Hughes is up to getting them playing together. That's why I've never agreed with those who have implied that anybody could do what Mourinho did, it's just not as simple as splashing some cash.
All that said, if he can get them playing anything like reasonable, even close to the sum of their parts, they will win lots of matches. They've signed a shed load of good players, they already have Robinho and any team which has the likes of Barry, Tevez, Adebayor etc is going to be some kind of force.
The key I suppose for Hughes is what the expectation of the owners is going to be given the outlay. If for instance they finish fifth would that be enough? What about sixth behind the big four and Everton, seventh behind those five and Villa? I must admit from my perspective, I'd be telling him anything less than fifth is failure. They really ought as well to be able to give Arsenal at the very least the hurry up, and my guess is that Ancellotti wiull bomb at Chelsea as well, meaning even third is doable.
Ciggy wrote:I didnt want to turn it into a City topic, City dont need to buy any more players they need a really great manager.
But we are one of the most famous clubs in the world and cannot afford players City are the Everton of Manchester and money is no object. We are already in debt up to our eyeballs so we may aswell have had an owner that buys players as a luxury.
Wouldnt it be nice for Rafa to be able to buy who he wanted without having to scrape bargain basement deals and free bees for a change?
Voronin, Degen and Ngog. Total cost 1.5 million.
The yanks need to dig into their pockets to improve our team we are still 3 world class players short, if they dont want to spend then they should kindly fuck rar off!!!
john craig wrote:3 world class players short Ciggy?
The league table last year doesn't really suggest that. We do need one or two players in though, and of decent quality at that.
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