World class shoul;d be: who can walk into any team in the world...
Thierry Henry, Ronaldinho and Gerrard could. Its that simple.
(i know its john craig or someone who gets into italian politics now to shoot me down lol)
Gerrard is not world class
by JC_81 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:39 pm
dawson99 wrote:(i know its john craig or someone who gets into italian politics now to shoot me down lol)
Can't be @rsed today mate
Seriously though, 'world class' is a term completely open to interpretation.
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by account deleted by request » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:52 pm
Gerrard didnt even make the FIFA world cup squad 
bbc sport
Fifa's World Cup squad of the tournament
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders: Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders: Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Strikers: Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luca Toni (Italy)
bbc sportFifa's World Cup squad of the tournament
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders: Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders: Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Strikers: Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luca Toni (Italy)
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by PhiLFC » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:00 pm
We all know what "World Class" means... Pele, Best, Maradonna, Cruyff, van Basten (IMO), Zidane... its quite a list. You have to be honest and ask yourself if you really think that Gerrard deserves to be in that list yet?
True "World Class" footballers and sportsmen (and women) transcend the sport they're involved in... Ali, Tiger Woods, Schumacher, Navratilova, Borg (again its quite a list).
True "World Class" footballers and sportsmen (and women) transcend the sport they're involved in... Ali, Tiger Woods, Schumacher, Navratilova, Borg (again its quite a list).
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by stmichael » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:01 pm
s@int wrote:Gerrard didnt even make the FIFA world cup squad
Fifa's World Cup squad of the tournament
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders: Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders: Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Strikers: Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luca Toni (Italy)
Where the f#ck is Maxi Rodriguez? Totti has been sh#te, scored one penalty nothing more.
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by PhiLFC » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:10 pm
stmichael wrote:s@int wrote:Gerrard didnt even make the FIFA world cup squad
Fifa's World Cup squad of the tournament
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders: Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders: Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Strikers: Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luca Toni (Italy)
Where the f#ck is Maxi Rodriguez? Totti has been sh#te, scored one penalty nothing more.
Couldn't agree more... Totti? WTF
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by woof woof ! » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:00 pm
Bman wrote:s@int wrote:Gerrard didnt even make the FIFA world cup squad
If your surprised by that mate then its time for you to wake up and smell the coffee. By SGs standards he had a poor world cup.
Unfortunately thats True .
Gerrard, by his standards had at best an uninspiring world cup as did many of world footballs other "stars" .
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by Bad Bob » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:23 pm
stmichael wrote:s@int wrote:Gerrard didnt even make the FIFA world cup squad
Fifa's World Cup squad of the tournament
Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders: Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders: Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Strikers: Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luca Toni (Italy)
Where the f#ck is Maxi Rodriguez? Totti has been sh#te, scored one penalty nothing more.
Don't forget about Ballack either mate. As anonymous as Totti this WC but just as over-rated. Lucky for him that Fat Frank was much, much worse! Decision time Jose!
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by Bad Bob » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:32 pm
dawson99 wrote:I thought Ballack had a good world cup personally. hes another engine who did a lot of work
I saw him go to ground in mock pain a few times, hit Row Z with a few long-range strikes and do little else. Granted, I may be biased as I can absolutely not stand the sight of that hyped-up whinger--never could. I'm glad, in a way, he's going to Chelsea because he suits those rotters down to the ground.
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by JC_81 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:35 pm
Totti
How he made that list is beyond me. Don't think Ze Roberto did enough to warrant inclusion either and Pirlo can play a hell of a lot better than he has done in this tournament.
Personally I think Essien and Yaya Toure deserved to be on the list. Superb performances despite not playing many games and especially considering they were both world cup debutants. I also think Ribery has done more than either Ballack or Figo have this world cup. Gerrard was right to be excluded, he was pretty poor by his own high standards.
As ever with FIFA, they base these things on reputation more than performance.
How he made that list is beyond me. Don't think Ze Roberto did enough to warrant inclusion either and Pirlo can play a hell of a lot better than he has done in this tournament.
Personally I think Essien and Yaya Toure deserved to be on the list. Superb performances despite not playing many games and especially considering they were both world cup debutants. I also think Ribery has done more than either Ballack or Figo have this world cup. Gerrard was right to be excluded, he was pretty poor by his own high standards.
As ever with FIFA, they base these things on reputation more than performance.
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by 48-1119859832 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:00 pm
dawson99 wrote:what about mexicos marquez? that guy has been awesome!
What about Pardo, Salcido, Sanchez and as you said Marquez? What a joke.
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