by ivor_the_injun » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:53 pm
by Reinas No.1 Fan » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:14 pm
by RAFABENITEZ » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:14 pm
Alonso14 wrote:I saw the goals, all top draw. I read that he might be off on loan to millwall.
Great to see God doing so well.
by Lando_Griffin » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:20 am
by 115-1073096938 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:58 pm
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:stu_the_red wrote:redmikey wrote:Having fowler back at his prime is the thing of dreams....
some great players have pulled on a red shirt but you cant ignore the truth that GH got rid at the right time. even if in robbies book he says he bloke was ato him.
i ve heard alan hansen has still got a pair of boots?
What people don't understand about Fowler is that during the treble season, he was the best he'd ever been.
His level's of ability in all area's were better than ever. The only thing is, he wasn't playing in a team that was made around him anymore and designed to get the best out of him. Fowler scored alot of goals from crosses, something which was rare under Houllier.
Robbie Fowler was never this alround player that people deam and fantasize about him being.
He was a goalscorer. A world class goalscorer. As a player, maybe he broke into the top 10 strikers in the world, no way was he ever better than the likes of Batistuta, Shearer, Ronaldo, Romario, Del Piero and Raul at the time.
The man's a Liverpool Legend, my favourate player of all time but that doesn't make him better than he actually was. If he got fit now and played as a lone striker in any team that had a player like McManaman used to be or Giggs and with two wing backs who could supply the crosses he'd still get 25 goals a season.
He got 17 in his last season for Liverpool playing in a team which was designed around Owen and Heskey. To me that says it all.
The problem with Fowler ever since he left Liverpool is that people didn't know how to use him, not that he'd "lost it".
Its the same thing now.
i`m not having that mate, there`s no way the fowler of 2001 was anywhere near, never mind better, than the robbie fowler that burst onto the scene in the early to mid 90`s.
the side robbie fowler made his name in was struggling like f@ck, thats why souness put the likes of him and redknapp and marsh in. that side certainly wasnt built to suit fowler.
maybe the evans side that had collymore in it was but even so he never seemed to miss in those days as he did after the injury in the derby.
by tel » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:19 am
by Liverpool 4 EVA » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:40 am
tel wrote:Pong can do it against Luton, but not better teams.
by ivor_the_injun » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:02 pm
by yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:53 pm
stu_the_red wrote:yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:stu_the_red wrote:redmikey wrote:Having fowler back at his prime is the thing of dreams....
some great players have pulled on a red shirt but you cant ignore the truth that GH got rid at the right time. even if in robbies book he says he bloke was a
i ve heard alan hansen has still got a pair of boots
What people don't understand about Fowler is that during the treble season, he was the best he'd ever been.
His level's of ability in all area's were better than ever. The only thing is, he wasn't playing in a team that was made around him anymore and designed to get the best out of him. Fowler scored alot of goals from crosses, something which was rare under Houllier.
Robbie Fowler was never this alround player that people deam and fantasize about him being.
He was a goalscorer. A world class goalscorer. As a player, maybe he broke into the top 10 strikers in the world, no way was he ever better than the likes of Batistuta, Shearer, Ronaldo, Romario, Del Piero and Raul at the time.
The man's a Liverpool Legend, my favourate player of all time but that doesn't make him better than he actually was. If he got fit now and played as a lone striker in any team that had a player like McManaman used to be or Giggs and with two wing backs who could supply the crosses he'd still get 25 goals a season.
He got 17 in his last season for Liverpool playing in a team which was designed around Owen and Heskey. To me that says it all.
The problem with Fowler ever since he left Liverpool is that people didn't know how to use him, not that he'd "lost it".
Its the same thing now.
i`m not having that mate, there`s no way the fowler of 2001 was anywhere near, never mind better, than the robbie fowler that burst onto the scene in the early to mid 90`s.
the side robbie fowler made his name in was struggling like f@ck, thats why souness put the likes of him and redknapp and marsh in. that side certainly wasnt built to suit fowler.
maybe the evans side that had collymore in it was but even so he never seemed to miss in those days as he did after the injury in the derby.
So Fowler got worse with experience?
Not being funny but you've completely missed the point again. Fowler was an excellent player, however he was a world class goalscorer.
In Houllier's teams he didn't get the right kind of service, he got the service Heskey and Owen were getting hence the reason he couldn't hack it and looked a worse player. Fowler would thrive in this side now as he has players to link up with who would get the best out of him, under Houllier he was used in a system that was designed to make the strikers use pace and power, both of which he's never had.
His ability level was far far greater, the style of the team he was playing in made him look alot worse than he was. Yet he still managed 17 goals that season which to me completely backs up everything i said about him.
As i said, when he first broke through he wasn't great at holding the ball up or had great pace, he's always been the same player, he still is only lacking in fitness and sharpness.
by RAFABENITEZ » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:09 pm
love you Robbie Fowler. by A.B. » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:23 pm
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:stu_the_red wrote:yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:stu_the_red wrote:redmikey wrote:Having fowler back at his prime is the thing of dreams....
some great players have pulled on a red shirt but you cant ignore the truth that GH got rid at the right time. even if in robbies book he says he bloke was a
i ve heard alan hansen has still got a pair of boots
What people don't understand about Fowler is that during the treble season, he was the best he'd ever been.
His level's of ability in all area's were better than ever. The only thing is, he wasn't playing in a team that was made around him anymore and designed to get the best out of him. Fowler scored alot of goals from crosses, something which was rare under Houllier.
Robbie Fowler was never this alround player that people deam and fantasize about him being.
He was a goalscorer. A world class goalscorer. As a player, maybe he broke into the top 10 strikers in the world, no way was he ever better than the likes of Batistuta, Shearer, Ronaldo, Romario, Del Piero and Raul at the time.
The man's a Liverpool Legend, my favourate player of all time but that doesn't make him better than he actually was. If he got fit now and played as a lone striker in any team that had a player like McManaman used to be or Giggs and with two wing backs who could supply the crosses he'd still get 25 goals a season.
He got 17 in his last season for Liverpool playing in a team which was designed around Owen and Heskey. To me that says it all.
The problem with Fowler ever since he left Liverpool is that people didn't know how to use him, not that he'd "lost it".
Its the same thing now.
i`m not having that mate, there`s no way the fowler of 2001 was anywhere near, never mind better, than the robbie fowler that burst onto the scene in the early to mid 90`s.
the side robbie fowler made his name in was struggling like f@ck, thats why souness put the likes of him and redknapp and marsh in. that side certainly wasnt built to suit fowler.
maybe the evans side that had collymore in it was but even so he never seemed to miss in those days as he did after the injury in the derby.
So Fowler got worse with experience?
Not being funny but you've completely missed the point again. Fowler was an excellent player, however he was a world class goalscorer.
In Houllier's teams he didn't get the right kind of service, he got the service Heskey and Owen were getting hence the reason he couldn't hack it and looked a worse player. Fowler would thrive in this side now as he has players to link up with who would get the best out of him, under Houllier he was used in a system that was designed to make the strikers use pace and power, both of which he's never had.
His ability level was far far greater, the style of the team he was playing in made him look alot worse than he was. Yet he still managed 17 goals that season which to me completely backs up everything i said about him.
As i said, when he first broke through he wasn't great at holding the ball up or had great pace, he's always been the same player, he still is only lacking in fitness and sharpness.
when he first broke into the side the ball was almost glued to his foot, i dont know where your getting he wasnt good at holding the ball up from.
again its all about opinions and you can try to explain to a dope like me all day long how the fowler of 2001 was better than the fowler of the pre 1998 derby match but i just wont believe it.
i know what i saw.
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