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[Ciggy]

The only corners I remember us getting a goal from a corner, was Carragher against Kaunas, Cisse against Anderlecht this season.

With the amount of corners we win in games and no one on the end of them is unbelieveable, most of them are aimed for Crouch's head where he has about 3 players climbing all over him.

We have one of the tallest teams in the prem, we should be excellent in this department.
Bolton and Everton are specialists at winning games from set pieces, these teams get the vital 3 points from one set piece Everton ecspecially.

And in tough games like against Man U and Chelsea where we mostly cancel each other out these are the chances that could change the results in the end.

So whats the problem?
Are the wrong players taking the corners?
Kewell? Gerrard? Xabi?
Are we not physical enough to shake off players and get infront of them?
Dont we practice them enough in training.

Surely with the height of Crouch, Morientes (header specalist?) Hyypia, Sissoko and Carragher why cant these bury headers?

Whats every one opinion on this?

[freddy]

We tend to allways opt for the short corner.   I wish they would just wip the ball in casue as you say we have got one off the tallest squads in the prem.  Id let Garcia take the corners, or even Finnan.  Gerrard wipp's the ball in from corners well but hes allso a big player who can cause problems for defenders in the area.

[Houllier=LFC]

No way, Garcia needs to be in the box cos hes the only person whos capable of scoring with his head.
I tend to believe Moro and Crouch are not physical enough. Crouch aside, Moro whos a proven prolific heading specialist i just dont understand whats his real problem, if you ask me i dont even recall when was the last time he scored a header for us.

[stmichael]

i was making this point to my mate last night when we were watching the treble video. look at that season and see how many headers gerrard scored from crosses/corners, mainly from gary macallister. tranmere, coventry and olympiakos are three games that spring to mind. gerrard is vastly underrated in the air and should be used as an attacking weapon more from set pieces imo, rather than taking them all himself.

when alonso signed, everyone thought that he was going to be the answer at dead balls, but even he's struggled at times with delivery, vastly overhitting several balls into the box.

[andy_g]

i still prefer the ones where it gets planted on JAR's left foot at the edge of the box. we score more like that than trying to land it on crouchinhos head.

[115-1073096938]

One of my biggest critisism's of Liverpool since about three years ago has been there lack of ability from set peices.

We only really have Had and Gerrard who are capable of attacking the ball and winning a header. We have Morientes, but he's not physically strong enough and we have Crouch who's the same. Carragher, for all his excellent defensive work isn't what you call excellent in the air. The lad can win a header from a long ball but thats about it.

Gerrard (one of our biggest threats) takes the corners and free kicks which is something i've always critisized as he's one of our most aggressive players who can attack the ball and his delivery is often poor.

There is also no variety in our corners.

I can't be arsed going into detail about them, but its an area i feel Rafa doesn't pay enough attention to, I agree that with more care and attention we could see more positive results in the tighter games.

[Ace Ventura]

Has anyone else noticed that we tend to use right footers from the right and left footers from the left ?
Meaning that every corner is coming away from goal, there is no variety, it would be an alternative to get Kewell on the right hand side and put in an inswinger.
But the lack of goals from set pieces is disappointing.

[stmichael]

Has anyone else noticed that we tend to use right footers from the right and left footers from the left ?
Meaning that every corner is coming away from goal, there is no variety, it would be an alternative to get Kewell on the right hand side and put in an inswinger.

yeah, i never understood this ace. endless times this season i've seen teams doing this and just wasting corners because the ball is adjudged to have gone behind the byline and come back into play again.

infact the quality of corners in general in the premiership is shocking. the number of times i see top players hitting the first man at the near post is frightening.

[Ace Ventura]

Has anyone else noticed that we tend to use right footers from the right and left footers from the left ?
Meaning that every corner is coming away from goal, there is no variety, it would be an alternative to get Kewell on the right hand side and put in an inswinger.

yeah, i never understood this ace. endless times this season i've seen teams doing this and just wasting corners because the ball is adjudged to have gone behind the byline and come back into play again.

infact the quality of corners in general in the premiership is shocking. the number of times i see top players hitting the first man at the near post is frightening.

Its strange isn't it, a player can bend the ball over a wall in to the top corner of the goal, and then the same player takes a corner and cant put the ball in a 5 yard area at a decent height.
It is a bit of a waste Stevie being on them, he is decent in the air and if the ball breaks loose on the edge of the box along with Riise he would be the person you want it to drop to.

[laza]

It has been pretty barren, usually even big Sami chips in with a couple of goals and i dont think he has got one this season

[stmichael]

alonso's delivery from set pieces against charlton was nothing short of dreadful. last season he had a tendency to overhit his delivery, but against charlton he was worse than normal.

[H_K_LFC]

Hyppia,Crouch,Moro,Garcia...theres no reason why we shouldnt be scoring from corners...Just have Gerrard or ALonso whip it in and we should be winning the battles in the air.

[redmikey]

garcia is actually more likely to score than most because he has the knack of getting into space.also Harry kewell is good in the air but is abit of a fanny when it comes to fighting for space.

apart from sami i never really expect us to score from corner and that is because of years and years of rubbish set pieces.  i think that it has improved under rafa with garcia getting it at the near post then turning back towards the line and knocking it in. and the lay back to sg or jar for an long range attempt.

but as mentioned by every one i would love to see sg in there more often as we would get more pens and he would free up room because he would never be a soft touch to mark( like shearer )

it is hard to understand with xabi how a great passer of the ball can,t bang it in right on the six yard line every time. i can't think of a good reason

[stmichael]

The only corners I remember us getting a goal from a corner, was Carragher against Kaunas, Cisse against Anderlecht this season.

Thinking about it, Gerrard scored from a corner against Chelsea at home and Garcia also scored from one against Wigan at home.

However, four all season is poor. We're probably on average the tallest team in the league.

[Ciggy]

We're probably on average the tallest team in the league.

Peter Crouch is dreadful at headers for a man of his height if Im honest a few bowls of scouse would'nt go a miss either, He's got no power in his neck muscles.