Liverpool FC Forum

[The Canadian Red Army]

We're probably on average the tallest team in the league.

Peter Crouch is dreadful at headers for a man of his height if Im honest a few bowls of scouse would'nt go a miss either, He's got no power in his neck muscles.

i think for what its worth the man from all the headers ive seen him go at, its his timing that is always wrong. In the game against manu, crouch missed a sitter right infront of the net off a corner. He must of been a few seconds to early because it hit off the top of his head and skied into the crowed behind. The samething happened against chelsea, off a free kick and he was seconds late and he hit it well wide of the net. For a man of his size he is awful with headers. I say pako or another assistant needs to do some one on one training with him, on helping him getting his timing right on headers. He needs to bulk up a bit, get his arms out and make some space for him when a cross comes in. He is still weak and gets pushed easily.

[Rastalovich]

I don`t think SG should be taking the corners. From what I`ve seen they haven`t been that good a delivery, and to be fair I don`t think it`s his forte. Sure he can delivery an excellent ball from time to time, but I think he`s the type of player who can deliver an excellent ball from somewhere more infield. The corner area is not that inviting, in some grounds they`re quite compact, and some even have quite a steep incline to them.

I do have some memories of HK taking some across the ground to the edge of the box and SG running onto them and smashing them in. Think we`re talking a year or two ago tho.

SG does `tend to hit them in lower and fast, often striking a defender first, rather than a bendy one in the air.

In my mind it`s another example of SG feeling he needs to do everything and be everywhere.

I`d go as far as to say Crouch & Moro should be embarassed by their lack of goals from corners. But, again, they`re not swung in high`ish balls that often.

SG needs a friendly chat, by that I mean I doubt any1 except an experienced Anfielder like Hamann has got the balls to say "hang on SG, let HK take it, u knock em in" - or summit. Bad example maybe, but I think ya`ll know what I mean.

[Butters11]

Yeah I'd have to agree.  I think they should let "HK" take a few from time to time just to change things up a bit.

[ivor_the_injun]

Just a thought - have any of you lot seen what Finnan's like in dead ball situations? It's just that his crossing in open play is generally pretty good, and I wonder if it would be useful to free up Stevie and Xabi so that they can do damage on the end of it.

[gato_busta]

I agree with Rastalovich, maybe Gerrard would be better of not taking the corners. it owuld be nice to have Gerrard and Riise right outside the box ready to kick in a screamer at any minute (if its not at goal at an oposing player to win another corner).

[Feeney]

Just a thought - have any of you lot seen what Finnan's like in dead ball situations? It's just that his crossing in open play is generally pretty good, and I wonder if it would be useful to free up Stevie and Xabi so that they can do damage on the end of it.

I agree with the Finnan shout Ivor - most recently his ball to HK to volley home.

Some of the comments IMO have been a bit wide of the mark. I feel on corners, at times, we are one of the most inventive teams in the Prem when it comes to the moves displayed and this has been especially apparent since Rafa's arrival.

Admittedly, these arn't all coming off as we arn't exactly slotting the goals in from corners - however, i've seen on a number of occasions where the ball has been worked well and an opening been created due to clever movement, passing and intelligence in our play.

On the flip side when a ball is put in the mixer, our players never attack it with the conviction or aggression needed and as such we arn't seeing any smashing headers into the top corner, ala Terry, Rio etc.

As St Mike said, 4 goals from corners all season is poor, however by comparison so is our goalscoring record in general this season.

[Rastalovich]

My aspirations are raised today with the inclusion of DH in the starting side.

I`d hope his inclusion does a bit of calming and steadying. I`m not interested in him playing 90 mins, but for me he has a quiet infuence about him.

On paper, Liverpool can-not concede, so it`ll be up to the boys to take control, be more settled and finish off the Wigan.

[Fowler_E7]

I think Gerrard should be taken off corner duty, he wastes most of the corners, and i really dont think that he is a dead ball specialist, in fact i really dont think we have a brilliant set piece taker in the team, we have plenty of decent ones like, Gerrard, Alonso, Riise and Hamman but no one who's outstanding. Hopefully when we get a new winger he will have the set piece abilty we have been lacking.

[red37]

Peter Crouch is dreadful at headers for a man of his height if Im honest a few bowls of scouse would'nt go a miss either, He's got no power in his neck muscles.

[onizukaeikichi]

we are conceding from set pieces past games, wats wrong, we dont have enough height?

[Ciggy]

we are conceding from set pieces past games, wats wrong, we dont have enough height?

Nothing to do with height its the zonal marking system that I havent got a clue about only that they mark the zones and not the players   But Im female I can be excused.

[115-1073096938]

we are conceding from set pieces past games, wats wrong, we dont have enough height?

Nothing to do with height its the zonal marking system that I havent got a clue about only that they mark the zones and not the players   But Im female I can be excused.

Its got nothing to do with the zonal marking system.

Zonal marking gave us our best run of clean sheets ever. Its given us the second best defence in the premier league... not a problem.

[whylongball?]

Agree with most of the posts here...just wonder if it occured to Rafa

[Anfield rapper]

For such a good team we really do suffer from not having good free kicks and corners. This was highlighted against man u, we had a free kick in a great attacking postition but SG pretty much waisted it. Then the SCUM go up the other end and get a similar free kick and score. I hate man u but their set pieces are very good, the whole team seems to focus on what they are doing. I think Alonso should be taking our corners and free kicks that are to be crossed into the box. SG is too much of an attacking player to be the one taking them. Hopefully this can be sorted out quite quickly if the concentrate on it. I mean we have a tall team and some players who can deliver great crosses all it needs (i would have thought) was more attention on the training ground practising free kick routines from all around the box.

[stmichael]

To be honest I can't figure out why our two best passers of the ball are so bad when the ball is still.

Personally, I like the idea of Finnan taking corners as he is an excellent crosser of the ball.

Personally i'd like to see set pieces whipped in with a bit of pace where just a slight touch can result in a goal. None of our players do that which considering the ability there, is shocking.